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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 07:19 PM Mar 2012

The Republicans have made Roe v Wade moot. The forced birthers have won.

I've actually been saying this for some time now. Without having to overturn Roe, they've won. The states that would likely ban abortion have pretty much managed to make it so difficult for a a woman to avail herself of her rights that they no longer exist in any reasonable form and the states that would retain choice have done so. Just as if Roe had been overturned and the matter had reverted to the governance of the individual states. You can say that this isn't true. that Roe is still the law of the land, but it's not for many women- poor women. Women of means still have choice. Just as it ever was.

What do we do? I'm at a loss. Where is the media? Where are women in the media? Are they really so afraid of being called liberal toadies by the right that they won't report, do a special on the subject? what the hell?

what is the most effective language to use in this battle? How do we strengthen coalitions? How do we protect Planned Parenthood from the endless demonization.

It's all so disheartening.

And frightening.

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The Republicans have made Roe v Wade moot. The forced birthers have won. (Original Post) cali Mar 2012 OP
It doesn't feel like the young women are coming out to fight this? Feminist has been turned peacebird Mar 2012 #1
That piece of shit Limbaugh is finally getting his just desserts. Initech Mar 2012 #3
I hope you are right peacebird Mar 2012 #4
A lot of young women do not realize the impact of this. Yet. glinda Mar 2012 #15
Skirmishes leave you depressed? This is a long war and it is not over. aquart Mar 2012 #2
As I noted, this isn't sudden, this is the culmination of cali Mar 2012 #5
It isn't a culmination of anything jeff47 Mar 2012 #16
Ladies, we have just begun to fight. LiberalEsto Mar 2012 #6
Yes. And while we are at it, Live and Learn Mar 2012 #9
Yes! LiberalEsto Mar 2012 #17
Women in every state need to launch recall elections against the men who introduce these bills. Liberty Belle Mar 2012 #7
Here's a Planned Parenthood Scorecard felix_numinous Mar 2012 #8
Wow, I guess that's why the right thought they had a winning issue... SunSeeker Mar 2012 #14
As a practical matter I agree BUT........... Swede Atlanta Mar 2012 #10
The ERA would help. boston bean Mar 2012 #11
Yep, what is happening today Live and Learn Mar 2012 #18
Throw the bass turds out!!! RoccoR5955 Mar 2012 #12
They are far from winning Iliyah Mar 2012 #13

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
1. It doesn't feel like the young women are coming out to fight this? Feminist has been turned
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 07:32 PM
Mar 2012

into a dirty word, like liberal. Perhaps now that the tealiban/xtian extremists have shown their true colors the young women and men will rise up, become active and support progressives?

Initech

(100,076 posts)
3. That piece of shit Limbaugh is finally getting his just desserts.
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 07:39 PM
Mar 2012

I'd like to think if the largest domino falls they all fall, and then maybe - just maybe we can finally start reversing their disastrous policies that have turned our country into the lust-for-profit shithole it is now.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. As I noted, this isn't sudden, this is the culmination of
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 07:43 PM
Mar 2012

years of diligence- on the part of the right. Hardly merely a skirmish. Oh and I didn't say I was depressed over it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
16. It isn't a culmination of anything
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:41 AM
Mar 2012

Culmination implies end-game. That's not where we are. In fact, we're just starting act 2.

Anti-abortionists are actually anti-women, but hid behind the "think of the babies!!" shtick. But their newly public anti-contraception stance reveals more of their true motivation. And that's our opening.

You take their newly public anti-contraception stance and shout it from the rooftops and drive them back with it.

This isn't the end. This is the turning point.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
6. Ladies, we have just begun to fight.
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 07:43 PM
Mar 2012

This right wing crap is waking up more women than I ever imagined.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
7. Women in every state need to launch recall elections against the men who introduce these bills.
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 07:44 PM
Mar 2012

Rise up and throw them all out.

Also, women republicans need to start speaking out and telling their party they will no longer support Republican candidates who won't protect women's rights. Decent men can launch such recalls, too.

It's time to draw a land in the sand and become one-issue voters on this, everyone.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
8. Here's a Planned Parenthood Scorecard
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 08:58 PM
Mar 2012

with an overview of what we are up against. I knew it was bad but--we do have a civil rights battle on our hands. How women are treated is how gays, children, minorities are treated--we are all connected.
http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/elections-politics/2010-elections-map.htm

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
14. Wow, I guess that's why the right thought they had a winning issue...
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 10:48 PM
Mar 2012

That is one heinous map. What is up with all this Puritanism?

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
10. As a practical matter I agree BUT...........
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 09:43 PM
Mar 2012

many of these drastic restrictions on the availability to abortion are subject to constitutional challenge because they fly in the face of Supreme Court precedent.

Now I fully believe the uterus watchers (ugly old white men that can't get it up without Viagara and can't get any action without paying for it) have conspired to push as many extreme laws across the nation as possible. They fully expect the Supreme (idiots) to take up one or more of these cases and they hope they will overturn Roe v. Wade.

Even if they lose with the Supreme (idiots), they have stirred up the base..that is those that only care about keeping the fetus in the uterus. They don't really care about life because they don't care about ensuring the mother and fetus receive appropriate pre-natal care. They don't care once the child is born if he/she has a loving and safe environment, access to health care, decent education, nutrition, etc.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
11. The ERA would help.
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 09:47 PM
Mar 2012

The right wingers feel, correctly, imho, that it would be denying a woman a medical procedure based on her sex.

Watching this happen, is what gives me great pause about judicial ruling only for marriage equality. We need the laws on the books, not just court decisions. Not that the court decisions aren't great. But people should not be relying on them solely.

I believe the ERA would make the laws prohibiting gay marriage unconstitutional.

Maybe, we could all come together one day, and make it happen.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
18. Yep, what is happening today
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 04:39 PM
Mar 2012

shows exactly why we need the ERA. Perhaps this will make us demand it be passed.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
12. Throw the bass turds out!!!
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 10:05 PM
Mar 2012

And elect people who will vow to overturn these crappy edicts!
That's your solution.
Don't mourn, ORGANIZE!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. They are far from winning
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 10:17 PM
Mar 2012

actually, they will lose by large margins. What 2010 elections brought, being bought and also the brain washing, I think people are waking up. The sleepers are awakening, and they know it.

As far as the media, well MSNBC at night is great and so is CURRENT.... The progressive radio is also spreading what these so called religious people are doing. It took many years for the so called "Christain" media to spread, and it may take sometime for the "true" Christians to get back the message, but I think its already happening.

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