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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:33 PM Jan 2014

'Angel' Dolphin chosen for captivity; its mother commits suicide in "the Cove"

An Angel Captured in The Cove
By Oceanic Preservation Society 20 January 2014

Last Friday, over 250 dolphins were captured by fishermen off the coast of Taiji, Japan. This small town, made infamous by our film "The Cove," is now known the world over as “a dolphin’s worst nightmare.” A relatively small group of 50-60 fishermen are responsible for the slaughter of thousands of dolphins every year in a single cove in Taiji. However, the few animals with ideal physical characteristics, usually young females with few scars, are first captured and sent to theme parks around the globe. Although the dolphin drives happen regularly during the open season, from September to March, this weekend's catch was a unique one.

The super-pod currently being held captive at the cove is not only one of the largest groups ever to be caught at one time, but it also contains a special member -- an angel, of sorts. A 1-year-old albino calf was easily spotted swimming along her mother's side. The calf was adoringly named "Angel" by observers because of her angelic features that are said to resemble a graceful “angel with wings.” Albino animals are very rare in nature, and although she doesn't fit the bill of a typical show-dolphin, Angel's unique appearance places a different kind of target on her head -- one that is even more lucrative.

Ric O’ Barry of the Dolphin Project, a former dolphin trainer and the subject of "The Cove," said, “Angel was the first dolphin to be selected. Her mother committed suicide just like Kathy did.” Kathy was one of the dolphins that played the role of “Flipper," who also committed suicide from the stresses of captivity. As conscious breathers, dolphins can choose not to take their next breath. When the stress of captivity, or being ripped apart from their families, becomes too great to bear they can end their own lives. "People don't believe me but dolphins do it all the time," O'Barry said. "Captivity is extremely stressful and there is nothing more stressful to a dolphin than taking away its calf.”

With tragic irony, the Taiji Whale Museum issued a statement from Assistant Director Tetsuo Kirihata: “Albinos stand out and tend to be targeted by predators. She must have been protected by her mother and her mates. We will take good care of her.”

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https://www.thedodo.com/community/OceanicPreservationSociety/an-angel-captured-in-the-cove-396618171.html

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'Angel' Dolphin chosen for captivity; its mother commits suicide in "the Cove" (Original Post) n2doc Jan 2014 OP
It's not over - "Next Dolphin Hunt Could Be As Soon As Friday" Baclava Jan 2014 #1
This is why I think 2naSalit Jan 2014 #2
totally agreed, TimeToEvolve Jan 2014 #25
No doubt 2naSalit Jan 2014 #52
I do believe that one day in the future the Japanese will hate themselves for this tradition. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #3
I dunno. Culturally, they lack any respect for any creature that swims. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #4
I can see how this will only get worse if their food supply gets threatened because of Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #6
The Japanese are not known for introspection re: guilt. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #11
And Americans are not known for being bright. Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #20
Is the Japanese psyche only influenced by what "we" did, or do ... 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #30
Nanking. N/T. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #47
Do they eat the dolphins, or is this just some ritual that has gone on forever? MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #5
oh they eat it all right - but it's full of mercury so they're just poisoning themselves Baclava Jan 2014 #8
Ah, ok - thank you MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #10
Karma. bvar22 Jan 2014 #27
They sell them to dolphin shows, and then slaughter the rest. It's only decades old. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #54
So heartbreaking. TDale313 Jan 2014 #7
Dophin suicide is a myth. Larsonb Jan 2014 #9
Interesting. But the link does explain why captivity can be deadly. SunSeeker Jan 2014 #16
thank you for that article. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #17
That article is crap... ohheckyeah Jan 2014 #24
Who the hell is ohheckyeah Jan 2014 #18
thank you Beringia Jan 2014 #22
You're welcome. n/t ohheckyeah Jan 2014 #23
oh. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #34
Not a myth Beringia Jan 2014 #21
Thank you for posting before I had to go track it down and post it. Daemonaquila Jan 2014 #28
I don't care about their "traditions". I don't care about their goddamned profits. Triana Jan 2014 #12
kick napkinz Jan 2014 #13
Sea Shepard abelenkpe Jan 2014 #14
SS is all over Taiji and the Cove. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #15
good to know! abelenkpe Jan 2014 #48
They are fully involved in trying to stop this horrible dolphin genocide. Nika Jan 2014 #51
they filmed the baby albino dolphin G_j Jan 2014 #56
... Rex Jan 2014 #19
PLEASE SAVE THE JAPANESE DOLPHINS!!! napkinz Jan 2014 #26
Support Ambassador Caroline Kennedy And The Dolphins[ napkinz Jan 2014 #29
Sent messages to all links. Thanks! MoonRiver Jan 2014 #31
Tell her to lobby Obama to ban live dolphin imports into the US dbackjon Jan 2014 #36
I really think that may be coming. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #39
I hope so. dbackjon Jan 2014 #40
thank you thank you!!! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #37
So what countries are allowing the import of these captured Dolphins? dbackjon Jan 2014 #32
YES! MoonRiver Jan 2014 #33
So we (the American Public) are supporting this slaughter. dbackjon Jan 2014 #35
Here's some history and information. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #41
Thanks!!! dbackjon Jan 2014 #45
Seaworld no longer gets dolphins from Taiji, but they used to Beringia Jan 2014 #44
Read the link supplied by Moon River dbackjon Jan 2014 #46
And when they get done there sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #38
Canabalism was a tradition in Fiji. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #42
Since it's there tradition sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #43
Fantastic idea! MoonRiver Jan 2014 #49
This must be outlawed flamingdem Jan 2014 #50
ONE of these days we may live demigoddess Jan 2014 #53
If you go to parks with dolphin shows this is where your money goes. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #55
Everybody who buys a ticket to these places has the blood of innocents on his/her hands. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #57
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
1. It's not over - "Next Dolphin Hunt Could Be As Soon As Friday"
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:41 PM
Jan 2014

The Japanese dolphin hunt that has been gaining international attention over the past four days has finally come to an end in Taiji, conservation group Sea Shepherd announced in a statement posted to their Facebook page. In total, 52 dolphins were taken captive to be sold to international aquariums, 41 were slaughtered for their meat, bringing the grand total of dolphins taken to 93.

Mark Palmer, Associate Director of the International Marine Mammal Project, said that the hunt, which lasts for five months, goes from the first of September through the end of February. Hunters go out every day except Sundays, but they can’t hunt in bad weather, and don't find dolphins every day, “so it is pretty much catch as catch-can.”

Karla Sanjur, a volunteer on the ground in Taiji, added that there are usually at least one or two slaughters each week, saying, “Tomorrow morning they will most likely go back out again and there could be another slaughter as soon as Friday.”

As far as the dolphins that were released on Tuesday, they may not be in the clear yet -- they have been without food for four days, and many are juveniles. “Many of these dolphins who were driven out will not survive and will soon be found washed ashore in the coming days”

https://www.thedodo.com/next-dolphin-hunt-could-be-as--397580588.html

TimeToEvolve

(303 posts)
25. totally agreed,
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jan 2014

global warming and other environmental disasters will most likely go totally un- addressed, until its too late (obviously)

then the forces of nature will scrub the filth of humanity off the face of the Earth,

then the natural systems will heal and take back the planet, and it will be a better place without us.

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
3. I do believe that one day in the future the Japanese will hate themselves for this tradition.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jan 2014

I wish we could give them legal status and rights to put an end to this horrible practice.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. I dunno. Culturally, they lack any respect for any creature that swims.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:47 PM
Jan 2014

If it lives in water, it's nothing but food to them. Hence their campaign of murder against whales, etc.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
20. And Americans are not known for being bright.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jan 2014

Seriously?

Talking about the psyche of a nation/race is always interesting and there's a lot of nuance. Japan is a rarefied country psychologically because of what we did to them in general, both in the bombing and in the things we did during the occupation afterwards that result to this do in many taboos.

But broadbrushing them? Please. At least next time put in some text with something more than just an "nt".

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
30. Is the Japanese psyche only influenced by what "we" did, or do ...
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jan 2014

any of their actions in Nanking, Bataan, Okinawa, etc, etc, etc, have some bearing?

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
8. oh they eat it all right - but it's full of mercury so they're just poisoning themselves
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:10 PM
Jan 2014

“The first test conducted in 2008 by BlueVoice.org of meat from a bottlenose dolphin revealed Mercury at 7.20ppm – eighteen times higher than the maximum level permitted under Japanese health standards.”

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
54. They sell them to dolphin shows, and then slaughter the rest. It's only decades old.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:45 PM
Jan 2014

There are videos of still-living dolphins being dragged up the street by their tails behind trucks, and leaving bloody streaks as they go. The slaughter isn't exactly quick.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
16. Interesting. But the link does explain why captivity can be deadly.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:09 PM
Jan 2014

It appears most of the deaths were due to lung infections, etc.

I know stress suppresses the immune system. I imagine captive dolphins are quite stressed, especially when separated from their calf.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
17. thank you for that article.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jan 2014

I'm still heartbroken over what those bastards are doing, but at least the article .... well it helps the crying a little bit.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
18. Who the hell is
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jan 2014

John Dineley? Think maybe he has an interest in saying dolphins don't commit suicide? He's the founder of Zalophus Zoological, a specialist consultancy whose founder John Dineley has over 40 year experience involved in the design and operation of aquatic animal displays for zoos, aquaria and the leisure industry.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
21. Not a myth
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:20 PM
Jan 2014


Your source is a zoo consultant, John Dineley. He sites as his expert on the matter Michael Walsh, of Sea World of Florida. People try to discredit Ric O'Barry, but he loves dolphins and has devoted his life to saving them.



From Institute for Marine Mammal Studies

http://www.imms.org/dolphinfaq.php
7) Do dolphins sleep?
We, as humans, are involuntary breathers. This means that we do not have to think about every breath that we take. Dolphins on the other hand are voluntary breathers, and they do have to think about every breath that they take. Dolphins do not sleep like we do since they have to think about each breath and they live in the water. They could drown if they fall asleep. Basically, they shut down half of their brain at a time for rest, while the other half stays awake to breathe. They take “naps” throughout the day.
 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
28. Thank you for posting before I had to go track it down and post it.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:55 PM
Jan 2014

I am so angry at the way that both sides lie about biology. I work with a conservation organization. We spend hella time combatting utter BS about animals, the environment, and basic biology. Why some groups feel they're doing animals any favors by making up utterly nonsensical sob stories versus talking about the sickening FACTS, I have no idea. There are so many thing that kill wildlife under stress that we should be talking about.

This reminds me of the idiot who plastered his photo all over holding "his" rescued eagle, showing how it was leaning up on him and claiming that they had a bond, and it understood that he had saved it. No, loser - that is a very sick bird, and that behavior means it needs urgent medical evaluation. *facepalm*

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
12. I don't care about their "traditions". I don't care about their goddamned profits.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jan 2014

This crap is E V I L.

How would one of these "hunters" feel if someone did this to THEIR FAMILY?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
15. SS is all over Taiji and the Cove.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jan 2014

Their group is called The Cove Guardians. That's where Jane Valez-Mitchell gets all her live streaming information.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
29. Support Ambassador Caroline Kennedy And The Dolphins[
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jan 2014

January 21, 2014
by Mark Palmer

http://dolphinproject.org/blog/post/support-ambassador-caroline-kennedy-and-the-dolphins

Associate Director
International Marine Mammal Project
Earth Island Institute


Over a very hard weekend for the dolphins in Taiji, the new US Ambassador to Japan, Caroline Kennedy, spoke out for the dolphins.

Ambassador Kennedy, in response to news reports that as many as 250 bottlenose dolphins were trapped in the Cove and waiting to be slaughtered, sent out a tweet: "Deeply concerned by inhumaneness of drive hunt dolphin killing.” She further added that the official position of the US government was to oppose the killing of dolphins.

The reaction from the Japanese government was unfortunately as expected. Mr. Yoshida Suga, the chief cabinet Secretary and a spokesman for the government, was asked about the US Ambassador’s opposition at a press conference.

"Dolphin fishing is a form of traditional fishing in our country," he replied. He then added ominously, "We will explain Japan's position to the American side."

Japan’s government explanations for their actions on whaling and killing dolphins are full of lies and bombast. They are not interested in discussing the issue, nor do they stick to traditional Japanese courtesy and diplomatic niceties.

Ambassador Caroline Kennedy needs to be supported in her position. The Japan government will obviously go over her head to protest to the Obama Administration and the US State Department. And there are factions in the Obama Administration who have been less than supportive of the U.S. position against Japan’s whaling.

As Jane Velez-Mitchell said on her program last night (which featured Ric O'Barry): “Right on, Caroline!”

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/01/20/dolphin-hunt-taiji-japan-cove

WHAT YOU CAN DO:

Ric O’Barry and Earth Island’s Dolphin Project Team are seeking a meeting in Tokyo with Ambassador Kennedy and in December sent her materials including a copy of The Cove.

Send a message to the White House and to Secretary of State John Kerry, urging them to support Ambassador Kennedy and use their influence to end the Taiji dolphin hunts.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

http://contact-us.state.gov/app/ask/session/L3RpbWUvMTM5MDI4MjE1NS9zaWQvTFVUSDZWS2w%3D

You can send a message to the US Embassy in Japan thanking Ambassador Caroline Kennedy for opposing the Taiji dolphin drive hunts. You can encourage her to use her influence to help end the hunts.

http://japan2.usembassy.gov/e/info/tinfo-email.html





MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
39. I really think that may be coming.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:33 PM
Jan 2014

Kennedy would not have tweeted about Taiji without Obama's blessing.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
40. I hope so.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:36 PM
Jan 2014

I bet they make more money selling the live dolphins than the ones slaughtered for meat.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
44. Seaworld no longer gets dolphins from Taiji, but they used to
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jan 2014

Three years ago, after the release of the Oscar-winning film The Cove, MSNBC reported that SeaWorld “refused to condemn those who still buy from Taiji.” Company spokesman Fred Jacobs, “likened such purchases to a salvage operation that prevents some animals from being killed.”

“We stopped [buying] and have not resumed, not because we are ashamed, but it was not something that we cared to be involved with any more,” Jacobs said. “It is difficult to go over there even if you are saving animals, and that is how we viewed it,” he added, without specifying whether the difficulty in going to Taiji pertained to witnessing the bloodbath firsthand, or arranging travel and transport logistics.

http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/09/14/seaworlds-convoluted-logic-taijis-dolphin-slaughter


If you watch "Whale of a Business" on Youtube, Frontline, it gives evidence of how Seaworld used to get dolphins from Taiji.


Map of countries that use dolphins from drive hunts. (overwhelmingly in China)

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212982647441941106197.0004b3def27ed36e9df02&msa=0
 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
46. Read the link supplied by Moon River
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jan 2014

Sea World still supports other facilities that take in these dolphins.

And still imports the captive offspring of live-caught dolphins.


SeaWorld is a slimy business.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
42. Canabalism was a tradition in Fiji.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:43 PM
Jan 2014

If you visit there natives give talks to tourists about said tradition, including which human body parts are most tasty.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
43. Since it's there tradition
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jan 2014

to eat people, let's send them dolphin and seal killers for their dinner. Sounds about right to me.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
50. This must be outlawed
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:41 PM
Jan 2014

People need to learn that dolphins are in a special category and should never be killed by humans.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
53. ONE of these days we may live
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:41 PM
Jan 2014

to see some species develop speech and then we will al be mortally ashamed at how we have treated them. I honestly believe many of these so-called animals are just as aware, and developed as we are and we should be very careful how we treat them.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
57. Everybody who buys a ticket to these places has the blood of innocents on his/her hands.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:39 PM
Jan 2014

Please think about this people.

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