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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 06:57 PM Jan 2014

Obama: Give me fast track trade

The White House is making a major push to convince Congress to give the president trade promotion authority (TPA), which would make it easier for President Obama to negotiate pacts with other countries.

A flurry of meetings has taken place in recent days since legislation was introduced to give the president the authority, with U.S. Trade Representative Mike Froman meeting with approximately 70 lawmakers on both sides of the aisle in the House and Senate.

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Some Democrats might see a disconnect between the White House’s push for trade and it’s separate push on income inequality, which has been embraced by the party.

Senior congressional aides expect trade to be a part of Obama’s upcoming State of the Union address, since the White House has made clear that the trade bill is a priority and the TPP trade pact is a core part of the administration’s overall jobs agenda, in terms of increasing exports and opening markets.

“This is a priority of the president's,” White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters last week. “It's part of a broad approach to expanding exports and, you know, creating more opportunities for our businesses to grow. And we're going to continue to push for it.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/195858-white-house-works-to-convince-dems-to-give-obama-fast-track-on-trade#ixzz2r4oLUy1k
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Obama: Give me fast track trade (Original Post) cali Jan 2014 OP
"Opportunities for our businesses to grow"... alsame Jan 2014 #1
TELL HIM NO. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2014 #2
Wonder ProSense Jan 2014 #3
It all comes down to the conservatives vs. the progressives. I hope there rhett o rick Jan 2014 #50
I'd point out that this is a really bad idea mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #4
Delusional TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #5
Not a great idea. I hope he doesn't prevail with this request. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #6
Well if Jim Jones says it's good for us, how can we doubt? Just take a drink. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #7
Have any grape?... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #29
This gives me an itching case of ODS. This can not be passed. Autumn Jan 2014 #8
Is This The Same President That Said He'd Put On A Comfortable Pair Of Shoes And Picket Too ? WillyT Jan 2014 #9
This bothered me at the time and it still does. QuestForSense Jan 2014 #49
EXACTLY !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #52
I guess there must be two Obamas - truedelphi Jan 2014 #53
So, he's finally dusted off the Bully Pulpit to get fast track for TPP. pa28 Jan 2014 #10
Obama never misses an opportunity to spoil the 2014 elections for the democrats bigdarryl Jan 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Jan 2014 #14
I don't think mimi85 Jan 2014 #45
Just say No. GoneOffShore Jan 2014 #12
No. Not just no, but hell no. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #13
At a bare minimum, there needs to be treaty language before geek tragedy Jan 2014 #15
fuck the TPP frwrfpos Jan 2014 #16
"It will cede legal authority to the multi national corporations." The definition of FASCISM. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #40
Mr. President, have you forgotten NAFTA? Brigid Jan 2014 #17
Clinton made 'trade' a dirty word. Whisp Jan 2014 #18
Someone will come along soon... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #30
can you site even one person who ever said that dsc Jan 2014 #47
Liberals would support a treaty with enforceable provisions on labor rights and the environment. pampango Jan 2014 #19
You folks miss it again. Obama know full well this Congress will not give him anything!!! kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #20
FFS. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #21
I know. My head hurts at the "logic" neverforget Jan 2014 #28
When you got a job to do, sometimes you are forced to make dumb arguments. morningfog Jan 2014 #51
You really are being sincere . . . ? pa28 Jan 2014 #22
yea..lets dangle the American people on a meat hook for the repubs to salivate over frwrfpos Jan 2014 #23
Frankly I hope you are right n2doc Jan 2014 #24
Sand. Head. Pull out!!! grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #25
Your either delusional or part of the problem. yourout Jan 2014 #27
Want to buy a bridge? nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #31
So why didn't he do that with Single Payer? Marr Jan 2014 #32
Now my head hurts BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #43
Not just "No".......NO FRACKING WAY!!! yourout Jan 2014 #26
That's pretty funny Puzzledtraveller Jan 2014 #35
They say no to everything, they'll say yes to this. PeteSelman Jan 2014 #33
embrace the suck? Puzzledtraveller Jan 2014 #34
NO! peacebird Jan 2014 #36
The president is fighting very hard jsr Jan 2014 #37
The President is wrong on this... kentuck Jan 2014 #38
No! How about you give us the full complete txt first on point Jan 2014 #39
a classified plan rammed thorugh congress. Perfect! think Jan 2014 #41
NO, HELL NO!!!!!!! dballance Jan 2014 #42
No. another_liberal Jan 2014 #44
me b zola: bite me me b zola Jan 2014 #46
Thanks again investors! For all you do, this TPP is for you. ALEC wishes and caviar dreams for all! raouldukelives Jan 2014 #48
The President is wrong! Enthusiast Jan 2014 #54
No, No, No Bettie Jan 2014 #55

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. Wonder
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jan 2014

"Obama: Give me fast track trade"

...if Congress is going to cave to the President?

Harry Reid: Fast Track Free Trade Bill Goes Nowhere
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024339496

Warren, Sanders, and 10 Other Senators Write Letter to Reid Opposing Fast-Track Authority
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024345247

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
50. It all comes down to the conservatives vs. the progressives. I hope there
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jan 2014

are enough progressives to counter the corporation sponsored conservatives.

Remember, elect H. Clinton-Sachs and get eight more years of conservative rule.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
9. Is This The Same President That Said He'd Put On A Comfortable Pair Of Shoes And Picket Too ?
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jan 2014
“And understand this: If American workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when I’m in the White House, I’ll put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself. I’ll walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States.”


Video at link: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/02/flashback-from-candidate-obama-ill-walk-the-picket-line-with-you/


QuestForSense

(653 posts)
49. This bothered me at the time and it still does.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jan 2014

From The Nation, dated March 3, 2011:

The White House mostly has sought to stay out of the fray in Madison, Wis., and other state capitals where Republican governors are battling public employee unions and Democratic lawmakers over collective bargaining rights. When West Wing officials discovered that the Democratic National Committee had mobilized Mr. Obama’s national network to support the protests, they angrily reined in the staff at the party headquarters.

Administration officials said they saw such events beyond Washington as distractions from the optimistic “win the future” message Mr. Obama introduced with his State of the Union Address.

In other words, the White House would prefer to endlessly repeat a lame slogan rather than get involved in one of the most consequential political fights of the present day. It seems like the new White House team, the subject of the Times article, isn’t much different from the old; still more than willing to throw grassroots Obama supporters under the bus.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/158999/white-house-odds-obama-supporters-over-wisconsin-protests

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
53. I guess there must be two Obamas -
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 06:49 AM
Jan 2014

There is the one that will put on a pair of comfy shoes and walk the picket line, smoke a joint, (or fire up the vaporizer) and then end NAFTA, and then there is the other Obama.

One is always around for speeches and photo shoots, and the other is in the WH basement, helping the military figure out which drone strikes are our best bet. Gotta spread that democracy, don't cha know!

pa28

(6,145 posts)
10. So, he's finally dusted off the Bully Pulpit to get fast track for TPP.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jan 2014

Now Democrats will have to fight their own president who has finally decided he wants to use it.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
11. Obama never misses an opportunity to spoil the 2014 elections for the democrats
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jan 2014

Signing this agreement will definitely make the democrats stay home and not vote

Response to bigdarryl (Reply #11)

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
45. I don't think
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jan 2014

the average Democrat will pay much attention. They should, but most people aren't that into it like DUers.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. At a bare minimum, there needs to be treaty language before
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jan 2014

any kind of fast track should be approved.

 

frwrfpos

(517 posts)
16. fuck the TPP
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jan 2014

its a disaster to the last of the middle class and an absolute soul crusher to the working poor and those in poverty. It will cede legal authority to the multi national corporations. They will be able to sue whole countries for loss of "future expected profits". Its filled with all kinds of fascist fucking shit. Truly are screw job this TPP is and fucking shameful that Obama wants to fast track this garbage.

K and R

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
40. "It will cede legal authority to the multi national corporations." The definition of FASCISM.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:56 PM
Jan 2014

The NWO continues apace. Maybe Bar will end up loving Barack, too.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
30. Someone will come along soon...
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:39 PM
Jan 2014

and remind you that NAFTA had veto proof support. See, so Clinton had to sign it, or something. To hell with principles.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
47. can you site even one person who ever said that
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:02 PM
Jan 2014

Yes I would like a citation of someone saying what you just said people clearly would say. I have seen that sited on only two issues (DADT and DOMA) where it was undeniably true. I have never, as in not one single, solitary time, seen anyone at anytime make such an argument in regards to NAFTA.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
19. Liberals would support a treaty with enforceable provisions on labor rights and the environment.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:55 PM
Jan 2014

Unfortunately, this does not seem to be it.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
20. You folks miss it again. Obama know full well this Congress will not give him anything!!!
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jan 2014

including fast-track. He is setting this up so that if the GOPer gets in, he or she won't have that authority either. If they fool around and give that authority to the President...just watch what he does with it.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
21. FFS.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:08 PM
Jan 2014

I'm so tired of this line of argument. "He didn't REALLY want (insert horrible idea here). He's just lying and saying he does. Brilliant!"

 

frwrfpos

(517 posts)
23. yea..lets dangle the American people on a meat hook for the repubs to salivate over
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jan 2014

then Obama will yank us back safely away. How thoughtful that is of him

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
24. Frankly I hope you are right
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:25 PM
Jan 2014

I hope he pushes this so hard the t-baggers jump all over it and strangle it.

Just don't kid yourself, if a R gets to be president in 2016 the repubs in CONgress will be more than happy to flip their votes.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
32. So why didn't he do that with Single Payer?
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:41 PM
Jan 2014

It's really very simple. He pushes for the things he wants, he does not push for the things he does not want. Sometimes Congress is an obstacle, sometimes it is not.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
55. No, No, No
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:59 AM
Jan 2014

Just no.

We need to make these trade agreements more fair and the key to that is having more voices involved not fewer.

Then, we need to talk about tariffs.

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