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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:25 PM Jan 2014

Our "Southern Democratic Presidents"..The "Race Card," and What the Heck is Going On, Here?

Last edited Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:51 PM - Edit history (1)

So...David Remnick forgot that both Dem Presidents Carter and Clinton were Trashed as Southerners!

I watched Charlie Rose's interview with David Remnick who did an Obama Retrospective in the "New Yorker Magazine" which was really a "tortured interview," IMHO

LINK HERE:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/01/27/140127fa_fact_remnick?currentPage=all

But..back to my point.

Obama is trashed by the Right...CERTAINLY because the RW is Playing a Race Card...but, both Lyndon Johnson, (Medicare, Voting Rights Act & War on Poverty) and Jimmy Carter (A Georgia R Peanut Farmer..One Time who had Bad Luck) and then Clinton (a Georgtown, Yale Law School Graduate who met his Midwestern Wife from Chicago Suburbs and moved back to his home state with his Bride) Who did an amazing SWEEP ...but scandal and terrible Trade Deals and some coziness with Wall Street set us on the course we are on today. Who knows what Clinton had to compromise to get the Monica Scandal over and done with to get himself rehabed in the eyes of not only RW Repugs...but Disillusioned Dems.

Bill Clinton was an Arkansas Governor who spoke with a worse accent than even Carter...BUT...HE WON an election for Democrats after Two Term Reagan and Bush I. And what did he do with his own legacy?

So, why I get angry about Obama Supporters playing the RACE CARD is that our LAST TWO DEM PRESIDENTS....were TRASHED just BECAUSE they WERE Southerners. Where is the Race Card in that? We finally get the "Perfect Candidate" and he Gets TRASHED because he's articulate and grew up in Hawaii with an international background due to his Mother with her Foundation Money because she was a "self made woman" who managed to get Grant Money from High Places.

So....does this mean that only Dems from Northeastern, Western or the Midwestern States are Viable Candidates? Which only Makes the South More Red..if their Democratic Presidents are always Challenged by their Accents, Race or Constituencies they need to Navigate through to be ELECTABLE...RACISM/CLASS/BIRTH/REGIONAL LOCATION
ALL are fodder for the RW...and yet our Dems know this...and yet they don't to SUPPORT that it's not just RACE...its CLASS! And NO DEMOCRAT can overcome this. We need the Entitled Bushies or Reagan the ACTOR from California (Hollywood) to have any Credibility. Otherwise it's TRASH DEMS.

So why does the Democratic Party seem to always NAVIGATE to the SOUTH ...Is this because of Finance (when we know Wall Street Rules) or Something Else?



WHAT DO YOU THINK...

OR

All will be trashed for Democratic Presidential Candidates BECAUSE of their accents and their Donors or Handlers?

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Our "Southern Democratic Presidents"..The "Race Card," and What the Heck is Going On, Here? (Original Post) KoKo Jan 2014 OP
this is BS, they were not trashed for being southern JI7 Jan 2014 #1
The Trashing of BOTH Carter and Clinton because of "Southern Roots" was Dreadful... KoKo Jan 2014 #8
They called Clinton a redneck, white trash, hillbilly, etc. DemocraticWing Jan 2014 #2
Well Said! KoKo Jan 2014 #9
There are a lot of people who think that Southerners... NaturalHigh Jan 2014 #3
Yep. nt LumosMaxima Jan 2014 #5
Bless their hearts Fumesucker Jan 2014 #6
What the heck is going on? I'll tell you. Not enough Democrats vote. gtar100 Jan 2014 #4
Even if every thinging person in America were to vote for the Democrats it wouldn't be enough Fumesucker Jan 2014 #7

JI7

(89,252 posts)
1. this is BS, they were not trashed for being southern
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:36 PM
Jan 2014

i'm sure there may have been some comments. but it sure wasn't on the level of attacks on Obama for being black.

attacks on carter were mostly things like being weak and on clinton for "morals".

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. The Trashing of BOTH Carter and Clinton because of "Southern Roots" was Dreadful...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:10 PM
Jan 2014

They were trashed for Carter being a "Peanut Magnate...Clueless Idiot from Georgia" and Clinton by Sally Quinn (wife of Ben Bradlee of the WaPo..at the time) as something from "Tobacco Road" of Faulkner's time where they "...just don't fit in...he wears "shorts to the Oval Office and "puts his feet up on the desk" defiling the Presidency with his smelly gym shorts and his aides whereas President Reagan had DIGNITY...and would NEVER have "come in for a run" and settled down in President's office in "unsightly clothes."

Then Carter before who came in with his MSM Meme of Carter the closet "Tobacco Chewing Peanut Farmer" who caused Iran to take "Hostages of Innocent Americans" and allowed a Countdown ABC to Document the ".......DAYS AMERICANS HAVE BEEN HELD HOSTAGE IN IRAN!

It MADE Ted Koppel AMERICA's FOREMOST NEWSPERSON... Koppel spend most of Carter's Administration after the Hostage Crisis making a "NAME" for himself in American Media!

Carter and Clinton were trashed from the time they were Inaugurated....and Yet President Obama expected BETTER?

WHY? This is what the PTB DO to Democratic Presidents......and it's all THEATER...and it's ALL LIES.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
2. They called Clinton a redneck, white trash, hillbilly, etc.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jan 2014

A lot of it was more classist than regionalism, and there's a history of people like Abraham Lincoln and William Jennings Bryan getting sneered at for caring about poor country people.

It's probably a bit easier to deal with those insults than the vile racism thrown at our current President, but there certainly are people who got upset that somebody like Bill Clinton went from a rural working class background to the White House.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
3. There are a lot of people who think that Southerners...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:53 PM
Jan 2014

need people from more "enlightened" parts of the country to rule over us.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
4. What the heck is going on? I'll tell you. Not enough Democrats vote.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:56 PM
Jan 2014

We are ruled by a fringe minority because only a minority of people vote.

It's pathetic. And sadly, if anyone tells you they are a conservative/republican, it's guaranteed they vote. But the same cannot be said about Democrats or those whose interests are supported by the Democratic Party.

If we could get enough people to intelligently vote in this country, we wouldn't have this kind of shit outlined in the Op as our "national dialogue". Listening to idiots is like breathing deeply around sick people. And the whole right wing is deathly sick right now. And it's an epidemic in the south.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. Even if every thinging person in America were to vote for the Democrats it wouldn't be enough
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:10 PM
Jan 2014

We need a majority.

h/t Adlai Stevenson

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