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Civil rights. The phrase conjures up images of Rosa Parks asserting her dignity against generations of codified degradation on a bus in Montgomery, Ala.; the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. responding to the reticence of white Alabama clergy to join the struggle for social justice on scraps of paper from his crowded cell in what we now know as "The Letter from the Birmingham Jail"; Bull Conner using fire hoses and police dogs on high school students and freedom riders in a brutal attempt to suppress a movement that awakened the conscience of a nation.
"Civil rights" is not a term to be used lightly. So as we consider our vote on May 8, is it proper to frame Amendment One (the proposed amendment to the state constitution making marriage between one man and one woman the only recognized union in North Carolina) as a civil rights issue?
Drawing that parallel engenders resentment from many who see it as an affront to the struggles of their forebears.
Speaking for a group of African-American clergy at a news conference organized by N.C. House Speaker Pro Tem Dale Folwell, the Rev. Johnny Hunter of Cliffdale Community Church in Fayetteville said, "Blacks know what real discrimination is all about," and of those who equate gay rights to the historic struggle for civil rights, "They're disrespecting ... the foot soldiers of the civil rights movement."
http://www.thepilot.com/news/2012/mar/18/yes-gay-marriage-is-a-civil-rights-issue/
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Equality for all. Doesn't mean equality for some. It means equality for all.
Our government, to be fair and establish justice for all, absolutely must see every human as being equally protected, to allow the citizens to freely pursue their happiness, and live in liberty, no matter their lifestyle.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)MineralMan
(146,338 posts)jbpdx
(33 posts)... are as bad if not worse than others. Sad but true.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Maine and Washington look like good bets to survive ballot measures, with Maryland and Minnesota a bit less likely. However, North Carolina still resides in my "not a chance in hell" column. I hope I'm wrong but I have seen nothing to suggest otherwise as of yet.
William769
(55,148 posts)That gives me hope.
barbtries
(28,815 posts)at least it looks as if the the "anti gay marriage" amendment will not win. it could be a few more years before the "pro marriage rights for every person regardless of sexual identity" law goes through. but at least, if enough people vote, we won't be going backward. i would so hate that!
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)When people get into the voting booth, and are free to express their bigotries anonymously, the tyranny of the majority has free reign.
Slavery wouldn't have ended in the US had it been put to a majority vote. Jim Crow laws wouldn't have ended had they been put to a majority vote. Miscegenation laws wouldn't have ended had they been put to a majority vote.
barbtries
(28,815 posts)too bad we have such a right wing reactionary politicized SC. if we didn't, a case might make it that far and get the constitutional decision it deserves.
i hate that this issue still comes before a vote.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)k&r
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)William769
(55,148 posts)TBF
(32,114 posts)Our constitution was written 200+ years ago by white male land-owners who were certainly not omniscient. The fact that they counted some as only 3/5 of a person and didn't mention others at all (women? what are women?) should make that abundantly clear. It's time for amending, or maybe even a re-write in my view.
In contrast, check out the Soviet's constitution from 1977 -
Article 34. Citizens of the USSR are equal before the law, without
distinction of origin, social or property status, race or nationality, sex,
education, language, attitude to religion, type and nature of occupation,
domicile, or other status.
The equal rights of citizens of the USSR are guaranteed in all fields of
economic, political, social, and cultural life.
Article 35. Women and men have equal rights in the USSR.
Exercise of these rights is ensured by according women equal access with
men to education and vocational and professional training, equal opportunities
in employment, remuneration, and promotion, and in social and political, and
cultural activity, and by special labour and health protection measures for
women; by providing conditions enabling mothers to work; by legal protection,
and material and moral support for mothers and children, including paid leaves
and other benefits for expectant mothers and mothers, and gradual reduction of
working time for mothers with small children.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Too bad our people aren't educated or curious enough to discover eye openers like this.
Thanks for posting
Behind the Aegis
(54,027 posts)Surrounded as I am now by wonderful children and grandchildren, not a day goes by that I don't think of Richard and our love, our right to marry, and how much it meant to me to have that freedom to marry the person precious to me, even if others thought he was the "wrong kind of person" for me to marry. I believe all Americans, no matter their race, no matter their sex, no matter their sexual orientation, should have that same freedom to marry. Government has no business imposing some people's religious beliefs over others. Especially if it denies people's civil rights.
I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard's and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That's what Loving, and loving, are all about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Mopar151
(10,004 posts)Some of my friends in VT and NH are pretty much non-reconstructed hillbillies, and were pretty ambivalent - but we came up with some common ground around the campfire.
It ain't so much about the ones bein' married, as it is about their families. Kids don't deserve the short end of the stick 'cuz the law made one of their parents illegitimate. Either Mom can go to parent/teacher conference, either Dad can sign report cards. Hospitals don't get to throw parents, children, or spouses out because some fool does'nt approve of a relationship. Parental and grandparent's rights don't get torched 'cuz a couple breaks up. And we know our neighbors - and don't care to have 'em badmouthed by some TV sinburner.
barbtries
(28,815 posts)i just don't get how anyone spins it any other way. EVERYONE is entitled to the same civil rights as EVERYONE else. it's simple.
Ohio Joe
(21,769 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)occupy this.
(5 posts)but labeling it a "right" makes it seem like something worth doing. It's a scam. Why not make it more expensive to get into than out of?
It's a sexist institution that should be banished to the rubbish bin anon!