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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 10:49 PM Mar 2012

MK: Why is it that so many poor whites - let's say in Appalachia - feel closer to white billionaires

http://www.truthout.org/dear-white-america-letter-new-minority/1330718926#.T1FDLV4qKZw.twitter

MK: Why is it that so many poor whites - let's say in Appalachia - feel closer to white billionaires, who care nothing about their economic plight, than poor minorities, who share their economic travails?

TW: First, because they have been subjected to intense racial propaganda for generations, which has sadly left them clinging to what DuBois called the "psychological wage of whiteness," which means the psychological advantage of believing oneself superior to someone, anyone of color, even though you are suffering economically.

Unfortunately, when your real wages and working conditions are poor, the weight of the psychological wage intensifies and can become a crutch to which one clings in moments of insecurity. Also, the U.S., more so than elsewhere, has cultivated the notion that "anyone can make it" if they try hard enough. Unlike the feudal monarchies of Europe, where the poor and working class knew full well they were never going to be on top, here, the reigning ideology - the secular gospel if you will of America - is that individual initiative trumps all.

If one believes that, then it becomes less likely that one will problematize the rich, or criticize them, or seek to challenge them, because at some level, even the poorest persons hope that one day they will be one of them - or if not rich, at least comfortable. So class consciousness becomes harder in such a place, and yet, when one's class position doesn't rise very much from generation to generation (and for many whites it still doesn't), they content themselves with their perceived superiority relative to persons of color, and settle for that, rather than fighting for a better deal for all workers, white and of color.
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tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. Rich people need the poor whites to protect them from the minorities
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:00 PM
Mar 2012

So they have made an effort for generations to fill these people's minds with the bullshit notion that well, you might have a pretty shitty life but at least you ain't black.

And they bought it because it was the truth, kinda. The wealthy people were able to keep them poor, but better of than blacks. Not that they were a hell of a lot better off, just enough so they could tell the difference.

In a word they were manipulated by the 1%.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
4. Profession trolls...
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:09 PM
Mar 2012

Including this new meme of saying that "Anti-Racism is Anti-White". I don't know where that originally came from, but I'm thinking that it started in Stormfront.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
5. It's racial solidarity
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:20 PM
Mar 2012

But that being said, there is quite a cultural distance between an Appalachian coal miner and a NY billionaire. And I say this as somebody who has lived in Appalachia. Most Appalachians (who often vote Democratic, btw), will never meet a billionaire. I know I never have.

Even with those differences, race is still a pretty important marker of identity, but for whites this is still largely relegated to the unspoken and the abstract. The MSM and broader political culture tend to prohibit open expressions of white racial solidarity - which is interesting given that these institutions are generally dominated by white people. It generally occurs under the table, but it's still there.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
6. It's sort of like a wink and a nod situation
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:22 PM
Mar 2012

Hence the need for dog whistle politics in this country.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
9. You're right. It is a wink and a nod
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:32 PM
Mar 2012

And while I think the term 'dog whistle' is overused on DU, I think it's appropriate sometimes. But at the same time, the argument they would make would be that everybody else gets to do this type of thing openly. And as the white share of the population continues to decline, it's inevitable that whites will start express more and more racial solidarity just like everybody else. We're witnessing the transition of this type of thing from fringe hate groups to mainstream culture. It's always been there of course, it's just been banned from being expressed publicly.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
7. It's not the billionaires - it's the 3 G's - God, Guns and Gays
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:22 PM
Mar 2012

They love God (or their version of him), they love guns and they thing gays are bad.

Doesn't matter what other issues the GOP party supports as long as they stick with the 3Gs they can get away with murder.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
8. Here's a great article that talks about your point:
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:26 PM
Mar 2012
How the Fundamentalist Mind Compels Conservative Christians to Force Their Beliefs on You
Sunday 18 March 2012
by: Valerie Tarico, AlterNet | News Analysis
Good people are willing to subvert the U.S. Constitution and even violate human decency in their quest for converts.

Many evangelicals wear their religion on T-shirts and around their necks and on car bumpers and eye-blacks. They hand out tracts on college campuses and stage revival meetings on military bases. They use weddings and funerals to preach come-to-Jesus sermons. In their resolve to spread the good news that Jesus saves, some also do things that are more morally dubious.

In Tucson, nice young couples cultivate relationships with lonely college students without disclosing that they are paid to engage in “friendship missions.” In Seattle, volunteers woo first- and second-graders to afterschool Good News Clubs that the children are incapable of distinguishing from school-sponsored activities. In Muslim countries, Christian missionaries skirt laws that ban proselytizing by pretending to be mere aid workers, putting genuinely secular aid workers at risk. In the U.S. military, soldiers bully other soldiers into prayer meetings or the Passion of the Christ and then send bizarrely profane emails to people who try to stop them.

http://www.truth-out.org/how-fundamentalist-mind-compels-conservative-christians-force-their-beliefs-you/1332095126

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
11. "friendship missions" sounds like the tactics of cults
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:13 AM
Mar 2012

One popular misconception is that people who join cults are intellectually inferior (stupid). The reality is that people who join cults are just as intelligent as everyone else. Cults just attract people at weak moments when they are lonely and/or depressed.

Evangelicals target public schools for the same reasons. They seek to recruit children because they make excellent targets for indoctrination.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. I've read about those Good News Clubs in the school - they bribe kids with candy
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:56 AM
Mar 2012

Hell when I was in 2nd grade I'd probably read from Mein Kampf if you promised me a chocolate bar. I wouldn't understand what I was reading but I'd do it just for the goods.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
10. Reason #4839 that the screams of "it's not race, it's class!" have never made a bit of damn sense
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:43 AM
Mar 2012

When you have an entire system built to oppress people's CLASS (income, standard of living etc.) based on their RACE, the very idea of making that claim is beyond idiotic. Hopefully, articles like this will educate people but I'm not particularly hopeful.

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