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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:58 PM Jan 2014

"Obama and Friends Discover Inequality"--(a different view)

Obama and Friends Discover Inequality
By Jack Rasmus

Today, January 28, 2014, President Obama will address the nation in his State of the Union (SOTU) speech to Congress. A major theme of the address will be the growing income inequality in the US.

His speech represents an echo of similar themes and talks that have been presented this past week at the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland. That’s where every January the big capitalists of the world gather to discuss amongst themselves the major issues of the past year and what to do about them—in between being entertained by various cultural celebrities and performers who have been allowed into their club as junior partners in wealth. The annual Davos cultural events are not unlike the small venue side-shows held in the big Las Vegas casinos: the entertainers strut and sing while the real betting and dice-rolling discussions involving future capitalist policy initiatives go on behind ‘invitation-only’ doors requiring tickets for entry costing hundreds of thousands of dollars to attend (the typical ticket price of entry for a Corporate CEO and his entourage at Davos, for example, exceeds $500,000).

This year the WEF and global capitalists have ‘discovered’ income inequality, now accelerating and intensifying worldwide to a dangerous degree, and especially in the US. The dimensions of the inequality problem have grown so severe in recent years it may, they themselves are now warning, result in unwanted ‘social unrest’ in the near future.
Now that it has become an ‘acceptable’ discussion theme, Obama and Democrat party politicians (and a few clever Republicans) have also discovered income inequality. Together they plan to raise the rhetoric on the topic in upcoming midterm and 2016 national elections. Therefore, in Obama’s SOTU speech today we’ll hear some basic facts about the problem, some vague proposals that are never intended get to the earliest legislative stages, and a lot of general talk about how improving ‘opportunity’ is the only answer to reducing inequality—all of which means let’s not do anything significant in the short run but instead focus on very long run solutions like improving childhood education, creating long run opportunities, and other very long term solutions.

The politicians’ new discovery of inequality follows liberal academics discovery of the same in recent years. Well known fellows like Paul Krugman, Robert Reich, Joe Stiglitz, James Galbraith and others have all written their books on the topic in recent years. But they too, like the politicians they support, have been very careful about recommendations for resolving the problem, mostly repeating time-worn, mushy old liberal proposals involving ‘education and opportunity’ once again.

The growing income inequality in the US goes back at least to the late 1970s, accelerating during the 1980s and early 1990s, and then again after 2000 under George W. Bush. It’s grown the worst under Barack Obama, with latest figures showing the wealthiest 1% households accruing for themselves since 2009 nearly all (more than 90%) of all the income gains during the so-called ‘recovery’.

More recent, damning revelations about the extent of growing inequality go back to 2002 at least—long before the politicians and the more well known liberal economists acknowledged it. In 2002 University of California, Berkeley economist, Emmanuel Saez, began publishing his analyses of IRS income data, since all pre-existing sources of income inequality by the government and business more or less obfuscated the true picture. Saez has updated his ground-breaking results periodically ever since. Most of what is reported and published about the income gains of the wealthiest 1% are from his researches.

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An "interesting view" if one wants to read more:

http://zcomm.org/znetarticle/obama-and-friends-discover-inequality/

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"Obama and Friends Discover Inequality"--(a different view) (Original Post) KoKo Jan 2014 OP
What an ignorant article frazzled Jan 2014 #1
Not to mention that since he was sworn in in 2009 he was dealing with little things like the economy kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #2
in 2009 a democratic congress was sworn in Doctor_J Jan 2014 #8
It's like it never existed El_Johns Jan 2014 #11
For a die-hard Dem of 50 years like me, those two years were very discouraging Doctor_J Jan 2014 #16
+1 El_Johns Jan 2014 #17
rec! Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #3
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #4
The loyalists are offended 1000words Jan 2014 #5
We're not going down the 'loyalists' vs. the 'haters' path, are we? pampango Jan 2014 #13
k&r for content, however... cthulu2016 Jan 2014 #6
Yes! 1000words Jan 2014 #7
There it is ProSense Jan 2014 #9
It was a great speech. I liked Obama's challenge to employers JDPriestly Jan 2014 #10
by brilliant, I assume you mean limp and completely unenforceable and no-risk Doctor_J Jan 2014 #20
I'm getting ready to go shopping for an iPad at Walmart to support his new jobs bill adirondacker Jan 2014 #22
"Democrat party". Stopped reading after that, that phraseology is only geek tragedy Jan 2014 #12
du rec. xchrom Jan 2014 #14
Striking it Richer: The Evolution of Top Incomes in the United States Octafish Jan 2014 #15
Inequality has to be what we Dems focus on for Mid-Terms and Beyond... KoKo Jan 2014 #18
They have to focus on DOING something Doctor_J Jan 2014 #19
They have their Economists "cooking on all Burners"...trying to make a KoKo Jan 2014 #21

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. What an ignorant article
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:04 AM
Jan 2014

Obama was talking about income inequality on the campaign trail in 2004, before he was even elected. It's what he was chose to work on the streets of South Side Chicago for, instead of taking a high-paying job after Harvard Law. He didn't just "discover" it.

zcomm "discovers" Obama should be the title.

PS: Be very wary of anyone who uses the term "Democrat party." I think you've stumbled on an agent provacateur here.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
2. Not to mention that since he was sworn in in 2009 he was dealing with little things like the economy
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:06 AM
Jan 2014

OBL, the ugly GOP Congress, etc .....

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
16. For a die-hard Dem of 50 years like me, those two years were very discouraging
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:09 AM
Jan 2014

the hordes of new voters in 2008 could have been nailed down for life if Obama & Reid & Pelosi had done their jobs and rammed the 2008 campaign agenda down the Repukes throats. Instead they not only let the minority set the agenda, but then BLAMED that minority for the entire debacle. No wonder so many 2008 newbies stayed home in 2010.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
13. We're not going down the 'loyalists' vs. the 'haters' path, are we?
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:21 AM
Jan 2014

republicans: "Love to see those Democrats call each other names."

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
6. k&r for content, however...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:15 AM
Jan 2014

Bold body text is LESS legible than regular text. Bold faces are not designed to be readable as blocks of text, and they are not.

Bold is best reserved for single words or phrases. At times one (and only one) short paragraph. But bolding whole paragraphs decreased readability.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
7. Yes!
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:17 AM
Jan 2014

Same thing with all caps. We recognize words by their shapes, not the collection of individual letters. All caps actually makes it harder to read.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. There it is
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:35 AM
Jan 2014

"Therefore, in Obama’s SOTU speech today we’ll hear some basic facts about the problem, some vague proposals that are never intended get to the earliest legislative stages "

... the "vague proposals," filling in for the cliche "pretty speech." Except the President's speech was laced with a lot of things that he can do via executive action, like raising the minimum wage for about a half a million workers, which is likely to force Congress to act.:

Senators Warren, Markey Praise Presidential Executive Action to Raise Minimum Wage for Federal Contract Workers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024405389

Together with Congressional action it will have a significant impact.

The days are long over when minimum wage workers were high school kids from middle-class families picking up spending money working after school. The workers who will benefit from a minimum wage hike are overwhelmingly adults, many of whom are supporting children. The higher minimum wage will also put a substantial dent in the poverty numbers, reducing the share of the population in poverty by 1 to 2 percentage points, close to 5 million people.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dean-baker/53892/president-obamas-inequality-story


The Tight Link Between the Minimum Wage and Wage Inequality

by Lawrence Mishel

A higher minimum wage is an important way to address wage inequality, as the erosion of the minimum wage is the main reason for the increase in inequality between low-and middle-wage workers (in particular the 50/10 wage gap, that between the median and the 10th percentile earner). This is particularly true among women, the group for whom the wage gap in the bottom half grew the most. As the figure below shows, two-thirds of the increase in the 50-10 wage gap can be attributed to the erosion of the real value of the minimum wage. [The 50/10 wage gap grew 25.2 (log) percentage points between 1979 and 2009 and that two-thirds of this increase (16.5 percentage points, or 65 percent of the total) can be attributed to the erosion of the minimum wage.] The paper this figure draws on usefully and appropriately captures the spillover impact of the minimum wage—the impact on those earning above the legislated rate. This finding makes sense, since it was in the 1980s that the minimum wage eroded the most, and that was the same time period when the 50/10 wage gap among women expanded greatly. The erosion of the minimum wage explains over a tenth (11.3 percent) of the smaller 5.3 (log) percentage point expansion of the 50/10 wage gap among men. For workers overall more than half (57 percent) of the increase in the 50/10 wage gap was accounted for by the erosion of the minimum wage.



- more -

http://www.epi.org/blog/tight-link-minimum-wage-wage-inequality/


How about the health care law that some people wanted to kill?

Obamacare Will Help Reduce Income Inequality

by TomP

Obamacare is far from perfect. Many of us have long sought a single payer system, but that was not doable in 2010. Perhaps a public option was, and it is unfortunate that we did not achieve that. It is one of the reforms to Obamacare that progressives should fight for.

My post today is about some good news. A study from the Brookings Institution shows that Obamacare will help reduce income inequality. Of course, much more is needed, but it all adds up. This is a step forward. (Raising the minimum wage also is very important because it will cause a bump in wages at minimum wage and wages above it (and it likely will have to be done state-by-state).)

Here's the study on Obamacare and inequality:

THE ARCHITECTS OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT (ACA) sought to expand health insurance coverage, slow the growth of health care spending, and improve the quality of care. Changing the distribution of incomes was not a stated objective. Nonetheless, the ACA may do more to change the income distribution than any other recently enacted law. It does so by requiring employers to offer affordable health insurance to their full-time employees, by providing refundable tax credits to help make private health insurance affordable, and by expanding eligibility for Medicaid. The law penalizes nonpoor adults who are offered affordable coverage and do not buy it. It reduces subsidies for some Medicare plans and imposes new taxes on the labor and investment incomes of high-income families. In each of these ways, the new health law will change the net incomes of Americans at all income levels.

Brookings Institution: POTENTIAL EFFECTS OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT ON INCOME INEQUALITY

You can read the entire study at that link. Here is a synopsis from TPM:

Obamacare is poised to mitigate soaring inequality by raising the incomes of the poorest Americans, according to a new study by the Brookings Institution.

By 2016, when its core provisions will have fully taken effect, the law will lift the average incomes of the bottom one-fifth of earners by nearly 6 percent, and the incomes of the bottom one-tenth by more than 7 percent, the study found.

The "great majority" of beneficiaries of the law's subsidies and Medicaid expansion will be in the bottom half -- and the "overwhelmingly majority" in the bottom third -- of the income distribution.

Obamacare is worth defending.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/27/1272820/-Obamacare-Will-Help-Reduce-Income-Inequality

Krugman: Obama and the One Percent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024391415

The new heatlh care law raised the payroll tax for high income earners and taxed investment income.

Net Investment Income Tax

A new Net Investment Income Tax goes into effect starting in 2013. The 3.8 percent Net Investment Income Tax applies to individuals, estates and trusts that have certain investment income above certain threshold amounts. The IRS and the Treasury Department have issued proposed regulations on the Net Investment Income Tax. Comments may be submitted electronically, by mail or hand delivered to the IRS. For additional information on the Net Investment Income Tax, see our questions and answers.

Additional Medicare Tax

A new Additional Medicare Tax goes into effect starting in 2013. The 0.9 percent Additional Medicare Tax applies to an individual’s wages, Railroad Retirement Tax Act compensation, and self-employment income that exceeds a threshold amount based on the individual’s filing status. The threshold amounts are $250,000 for married taxpayers who file jointly, $125,000 for married taxpayers who file separately, and $200,000 for all other taxpayers. An employer is responsible for withholding the Additional Medicare Tax from wages or compensation it pays to an employee in excess of $200,000 in a calendar year. The IRS and the Department of the Treasury have issued proposed regulations on the Additional Medicare Tax. Comments may be submitted electronically, by mail or hand delivered to the IRS. For additional information on the Additional Medicare Tax, see our questions and answers.

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Affordable-Care-Act-Tax-Provisions



JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. It was a great speech. I liked Obama's challenge to employers
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jan 2014

to raise the wages of their employees without government action.

It was really brilliant in my view.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
20. by brilliant, I assume you mean limp and completely unenforceable and no-risk
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jan 2014

What if they don't?

"Tsk, tsk. You should pay your employees more, but if you don't nothing will happen". I am afraid I don't detect the "brilliance" of this.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. "Democrat party". Stopped reading after that, that phraseology is only
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:15 AM
Jan 2014

used by Repugs and their useful idiots.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. Striking it Richer: The Evolution of Top Incomes in the United States
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 09:06 AM
Jan 2014

From Emmanuel Saez, UC Berkeley:

From 2009 to 2012, average real income per family grew modestly by
6.0% (Table 1) but the gains were very uneven. Top 1% incomes grew by
31.4% while bottom 99% incomes grew only by 0.4%. Hence, the top 1%
captured 95% of the income gains in the first two years of the recovery. From
2009 to 2010, top 1% grew fast and then stagnated from 2010 to 2011.
Bottom 99% stagnated both from 2009 to 2010 and from 2010 to 2011.
Preliminary statistics for year 2012 show that top 1% incomes increased
sharply from 2011 to 2012 while bottom 99% incomes grew only modestly.

PDF Source: http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/saez-UStopincomes-2012.pdf

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
18. Inequality has to be what we Dems focus on for Mid-Terms and Beyond...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 08:57 PM
Jan 2014

There are those who want to accuse Dems of "Class War" and frame it for Faux News as that.

But...most Americans can definitely understand "Inequality" THESE days...because we ALL LIVE IT... And this isn't just a Dem issue but an issue we and our Republican relatives and co-workers, friends are living through also.

If we could get past the animosity of the Dem vs Repugs Debates then the way would be that "Inequality in America has Grown under both Republicans and Democrats....so HOW do we work to Change It?

This should be the message...that we should be trying to get out there and hold our 2014 Candicates in our States fee to the fire. And that's both the Republican & the Democratic Candidates.

We need Banners and Posters expressing how American Families and Workers are NOW UNEQUAL!

This has to be the rallying cry to get Voters back in the polls for 2014!

But...I dont' see much interest here on the Dem Side or Republican Side for such an effort ...at this point.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
19. They have to focus on DOING something
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:18 PM
Jan 2014

They can talk til they're blue in the face, but if they deliver nothing, another trouncing is at hand, like 2010.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
21. They have their Economists "cooking on all Burners"...trying to make a
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:53 PM
Jan 2014

"Tasty Stew" out of this Mess that we are living through.

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