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Three cheers for Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon and Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado -- they've tried warning We the People and their fellow elected representatives about vitally important issues with the way the Government uses the USA PATRIOT Act. Unfortunately, the very law prevents them from disclosing what would cause us to be stunned.
The New York Times reported on Thursday:
Democratic Senators Issue Strong Warning About Use of the Patriot Act
By CHARLIE SAVAGE
The New York Times, March 16, 2012
WASHINGTON For more than two years, a handful of Democrats on the Senate intelligence committee have warned that the government is secretly interpreting its surveillance powers under the Patriot Act in a way that would be alarming if the public or even others in Congress knew about it.
On Thursday, two of those senators Ron Wyden of Oregon and Mark Udall of Colorado went further. They said a top-secret intelligence operation that is based on that secret legal theory is not as crucial to national security as executive branch officials have maintained.
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We would also note that in recent months we have grown increasingly skeptical about the actual value of the intelligence collection operation, they added. This has come as a surprise to us, as we were initially inclined to take the executive branchs assertions about the importance of this operation at face value.
The dispute centers on what the government thinks it is allowed to do under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, under which agents may obtain a secret order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing them to get access to any tangible things like business records that are deemed relevant to a terrorism or espionage investigation.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/16/us/politics/democratic-senators-warn-about-use-of-patriot-act.html?_r=2
Gee. I sure hope Sen. Wyden and Sen. Udall succeed in letting us know what the hell is going on with the USA PATRIOT Act spying on Americans thing is all about. After all, it is a sad time in America when Senators are afraid of being whistleblowers.
Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'
By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph
A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.
Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.
The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.
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Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html
The two Senators were talking about this latest outrage way back when. DUers, of course, were aware. But the rest of the nation, not so much.
Now why would Capitalism's Invisible Army want to keep We the People in the dark? For one thing, besides keeping tabs on everyone's comings and goings, could be for personal gain, say via inside trading?
Stratfor & Goldman Sachs started hedge fund called Stratcap to trade on illegal inside gov't info
"Stratfors use of insiders for intelligence soon turned into a money-making scheme of questionable legality. The emails show that in 2009 then-Goldman Sachs Managing Director Shea Morenz and Stratfor CEO George Friedman hatched an idea to "utilise the intelligence" it was pulling in from its insider network to start up a captive strategic investment fund. CEO George Friedman explained in a confidential August 2011 document, marked DO NOT SHARE OR DISCUSS : "What StratCap will do is use our Stratfors intelligence and analysis to trade in a range of geopolitical instruments, particularly government bonds, currencies and the like". The emails show that in 2011 Goldman Sachs Morenz invested "substantially" more than $4million and joined Stratfors board of directors. Throughout 2011, a complex offshore share structure extending as far as South Africa was erected, designed to make StratCap appear to be legally independent. But, confidentially, Friedman told StratFor staff : "Do not think of StratCap as an outside organisation. It will be integral... It will be useful to you if, for the sake of convenience, you think of it as another aspect of Stratfor and Shea as another executive in Stratfor... we are already working on mock portfolios and trades". StratCap is due to launch in 2012. "
http://wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html
One thing is for certain: Secret government makes it really hard to follow the money. It does make obvious who's getting rich off it, though.
trusty elf
(7,393 posts)One Nation, Under Surveillance
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)Among other things, Wired asked unadmirable Poindexter about privacy:
Is privacy a right?
It's certainly not a constitutional right. It's an individual right that has to be balanced with concern for the common good. Privacy has to be relative to other objectives - for instance, security. The greatest threat to privacy is terrorism. How much privacy was there in Afghanistan under the Taliban?
SOURCE: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.05/poindexter.html
Gee. That was in 2004. Wonder what's changed since then -- apart from the privatization of the common good, I mean?
Thank you for grokking, trusty elf! That Tom Ridge wink is something else.
dougolat
(716 posts)The surveillance system is gearing up to collect, store, and break encryption on pretty near any phone call or e-mail, even those years back.
It's a lot to work with.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thank you for the heads-up, dougolat! Bamford's TOPS! Incredible reading -- I'm getting his latest ASAFP.
siligut
(12,272 posts)While a large tract of land was needed, the place is huge, I strongly suspect another reason is because there it can be protected from sabotage.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)For example, just what the fraud squad found...
Insider trading case reveals Apple, Intel secrets leaked on wiretap
By Jacqui Cheng | Published about 7 hours ago
An unidentified person at financial services company Goldman Sachs has been fingered for leaking secrets about Apple and Intel to hedge fund founder Raj Rajaratnam, according to Reuters. The details came out as part of a larger insider trading investigation into those involved with Rajaratnam, though the person in question has not been charged as of yet.
A lawyer for one of the parties being investigated, former Goldman board member Rajat Gupta, mentioned the Apple and Intel leak as part of an argument that the unidentified person was more deserving of insider trading scrutiny than Gupta. "[T]he government had a person who provided confidential information to Raj Rajaratnam about Apple and Intel," the lawyer was quoted saying. The alleged Apple/Intel source was reportedly caught on wiretap leaking the info to Rajaratnam.
Gupta himself is accused of leaking information about Goldman Sachs and Proctor & Gamble to Rajaratnam from 2007 to 2009he is not directly related to the Apple leak except that Gupta and the unidentified person both leaked information to Rajaratnam. "[T]here is a much more circumstantial case that person should be sitting in the box rather than us," Gupta's lawyer said.
SOURCE: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/03/insider-trading-case-reveals-apple-intel-secrets-leaked-on-wiretap.ars?clicked=related_right
Thank you, think! Remember the J. Geils Band?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Five million emails obtained from U.S.-based global security analysis firm Stratfor 'will reveal murky truth about intelligence gathering'
Julian Assange claims firm is monitoring activists for corporate giants and taking information from U.S. government department insider
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 8:43 PM on 27th February 2012
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[font color="green"][font size="5"]The group said the emails expose a 'revolving door' in private intelligence companies in the U.S., claiming government and diplomatic sources give Stratfor advance knowledge of global politics and events in exchange for money.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107041/WikiLeaks-releases-stolen-files-Shadow-CIA-buys-state-secrets-cash-Swiss-bank.html
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Wonder how long "compartmentalized information" holds when the "price is right" is on?
CIA moonlights in corporate world
In the midst of two wars and the fight against Al Qaeda, the CIA is offering operatives a chance to peddle their expertise to private companies on the side a policy that gives financial firms and hedge funds access to the nations top-level intelligence talent, POLITICO has learned.
In one case, these active-duty officers moonlighted at a hedge-fund consulting firm that wanted to tap their expertise in deception detection, the highly specialized art of telling when executives may be lying based on clues in a conversation.
The never-before-revealed policy comes to light as the CIA and other intelligence agencies are once again under fire for failing to connect the dots, this time in the Christmas Day bombing plot on Northwest Flight 253.
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But the close ties between active-duty and retired CIA officers at one consulting company show the degree to which CIA-style intelligence gathering techniques have been employed by hedge funds and financial institutions in the global economy.
The firm is called Business Intelligence Advisors, and it is based in Boston. BIA was founded and is staffed by a number of retired CIA officers, and it specializes in the arcane field of deception detection. BIAs clients have included Goldman Sachs and the enormous hedge fund SAC Capital Advisors, according to spokesmen for both firms.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32290.html#ixzz0eIFPhHBh
That was 2010. Wonder how profitable things have become, now that the economy has come roaring back for the 1-percent.
Thanks for keeping on keeping on, Kaleko! Wish this stuff was all over the tee vee and covered by all the newspapers so I wouldn't have to spend so much darn time on the Intertubes.
Kaleko
(4,986 posts)until now. And here I thought I was pretty well informed about all the latest moves by our international surveillance state. Reading the article you linked to leaves me with a feeling of impotent rage and a sense of utter defeat. Dammit 3 times and once again sideways!!! Alex Jones was right when he called it the "info wars". I turn my bleary eyes to the likes of WikiLeaks, Anonymous and Occupy Everywhere. Thank you for keeping the records of our true history during these times of Homeland Deception Through Secrecy, my dear friend Octafish.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Here's the latest succinct explanation on Sen. Wyden and Sen. Udall's carefully worded concerns:
Senators Wyden and Udall still fighting against Patriot Act secrecy
by Steve Ragan - Mar 19 2012, 17:55
The Tech Herald
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Section 215 is in the spotlight because FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) courts have issued legal opinions on the section in secret. Its a public statute, but how it is interpreted by the FISA courts, or anyone else in the government for that matter, is unknown. However, its clear that the section vastly expands the governments power when it comes to intelligence collection.
While the government has given Congress details on their interpretation, the data was so highly classified that most Congressional members do not have anyone on staff with the clearance to read them.
In a letter sent to Attorney General Holder by Senators Wyden and Udall, this fact was highlighted, along with a note that if their colleagues were fully aware of the data, they would likely be surprised and angry to learn how the Patriot Act has been dealt with in secret. So would everyone else the letter says.
We believe most Americans would be stunned to learn the details of how these secret court opinions have interpreted section 215 of the Patriot Act. As we see it, there is now a significant gap between what most Americans think the law allows and what they government secretly claims the law allows. This is a problem, because it is impossible to have an informed public debate about what the law should say when the public doesnt know what its government thinks the law says, the Senators wrote.
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However, in a democratic society in which the government derives its power from the consent of the people citizens rightly expect that their government will not arbitrarily keep information from them. Americans expect their government to operate within the boundaries of publicly-understood law, and as voters they have a need and a right to now how the law is being interpreted, so that they can ratify or reject decisions made on their behalf. To put it another way, Americans know that their government will sometimes conduct secret operations, but they don't think that government officials should be writing secret laws.
SOURCE: http://www.thetechherald.com/articles/Senators-Wyden-and-Udall-still-fighting-against-Patriot-Act-secrecy/16433/
Thanks for grokking, steve2470. Thanks to Corporate McPravda so utterly failing in its Constitutional duty, this story needs to be spread.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)When the discussion came up about a "secret" PATRIOT Act, I knew that someone had been denied access to plans in response to a terrorist incident, but I couldn't remember who.
Bush refuses to let Congressman see his secret plans for "continuity of government" after the next terrorist attack
http://www.correntewire.com/bush_refuses_to_let_congressman_see_his_secret_plans_for_continuity_of_government_after_the_next_terrorist_attack
"I just can't believe they're going to deny a member of Congress the right of reviewing how they plan to conduct the government of the United States after a significant terrorist attack," DeFazio says.
The "continuity of government" was part of National Security Presidential Directive 51 which, as far as I can tell, the Obama Administration has adopted into its guiding principles.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)It even shocked Tom Daschle.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5027094
The NSPD 51 thing goes straight back to Oliver North and REX 84.
Initech
(100,076 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Remember Richard PNAC Perle? He hit up Adnan Khashoggi for $100 million to make his new "Trireme Partnerships" take off.
Khashoggi's money would help launch the Carlyle Group-like investment group Perle founded. The petromoney was not for arms, directly. It was for investing in companies that were going to be making a killing off of homeland security related areas.
Interesting selling point: Perle already had secured financing from in from Boeing and some other bigwigs like Henry Kissinger.
Lunch with the Chairman
by Seymour M. Hersh
17 March 2003
At the peak of his deal-making activities, in the nineteen-seventies, the Saudi-born businessman Adnan Khashoggi brokered billions of dollars in arms and aircraft sales for the Saudi royal family, earning hundreds of millions in commissions and fees. Though never convicted of wrongdoing, he was repeatedly involved in disputes with federal prosecutors and with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and in recent years he has been in litigation in Thailand and Los Angeles, among other places, concerning allegations of stock manipulation and fraud. During the Reagan Administration, Khashoggi was one of the middlemen between Oliver North, in the White House, and the mullahs in Iran in what became known as the Iran-Contra scandal. Khashoggi subsequently claimed that he lost ten million dollars that he had put up to obtain embargoed weapons for Iran which were to be bartered (with Presidential approval) for American hostages. The scandals of those times seemed to feed off each other: a congressional investigation revealed that Khashoggi had borrowed much of the money for the weapons from the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (B.C.C.I.), whose collapse, in 1991, defrauded thousands of depositors and led to years of inquiry and litigation.
Khashoggi is still brokering. In January of this year, he arranged a private lunch, in France, to bring together Harb Saleh al-Zuhair, a Saudi industrialist whose family fortune includes extensive holdings in construction, electronics, and engineering companies throughout the Middle East, and Richard N. Perle, the chairman of the Defense Policy Board, who is one of the most outspoken and influential American advocates of war with Iraq.
The Defense Policy Board is a Defense Department advisory group composed primarily of highly respected former government officials, retired military officers, and academics. Its members, who serve without pay, include former national-security advisers, Secretaries of Defense, and heads of the C.I.A. The board meets several times a year at the Pentagon to review and assess the countrys strategic defense policies.
Perle is also a managing partner in a venture-capital company called Trireme Partners L.P., which was registered in November, 2001, in Delaware. Triremes main business, according to a two-page letter that one of its representatives sent to Khashoggi last November, is to invest in companies dealing in technology, goods, and services that are of value to homeland security and defense. The letter argued that the fear of terrorism would increase the demand for such products in Europe and in countries like Saudi Arabia and Singapore.
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http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2003/03/17/030317fa_fact
A bit on the new TRIREME business...
At Hollinger, Big Perks in A Small World
By Steven Pearlstein
Wednesday, November 19, 2003; Page E01
It's amazing the coincidences you find digging into Hollinger International, the publishing empire that includes Chicago's Sun-Times and London's Daily Telegraph and is quickly slipping from Conrad Black's control.
Let's start with the board of directors, which includes Barbara Amiel, Conrad's wife, whose right-wing rants have managed to find an outlet in Hollinger publications.
And there's Washington superhawk Richard Perle, who heads Hollinger Digital, the company's venture capital arm. Seems that Hollinger Digital put $2.5 million in a company called Trireme Partners, which aims to cash in on the big military and homeland security buildup. As luck would have it, Trireme's managing partner is none other than . . . Richard Perle.
Perle, of course, has been pushing hard for just such a military buildup from his other perch at the Pentagon's secretive and influential Defense Policy Board, where there are a number of other Friends of Hollinger.
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http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-309818.html
Today, the list has grown longer and the system stronger.
Those who remember the JFK Administration know it wasn't always this way.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thanks to NSA technology, they got a pretty good idea of who's telephoned whom about what. Consider the dangers posed to authority by peaceful peace activists...
http://www.emptywheel.net/tag/cifa/
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Odd, I don't remember hearing about this on the television screen:
In a joint op-ed, Senators Wyden and Udall explained that secret interpretations of the Patriot Act were preventing Congress from having an open, informed debate on the laws extension. [font color="blue"][font size="5"]In a democratic society, government agencies derive their power from the public's trust, Wyden and Udall wrote, Secret laws undermine that trust and authority, which then erodes and ultimately damages our ability to fight terrorism and protect the American people.[/font size][/font color]
SOURCE: http://wyden.senate.gov/issues/issue/?id=1f333bb6-d57f-473b-b98c-04d186d8b48b
Thanks for giving a damn about democracy, woo me with science. I don't understand why so few members of our news media get what we're talking about. I blame Corporate McPravda for the public's apparent apathy.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)This is why WikiLeaks is so important. The traitors in secret government making a killing off war don't want you to know. They especially don't want you to know that you don't know.
WikiLeaks Stratfor Dump Exposes Continued Secret Government Warmongering