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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:12 AM Mar 2012

Politicians Don’t Know The Minimum Wage, But Know It’s Too Much


http://www.care2.com/causes/politicians-dont-know-the-minimum-wage-but-know-its-too-much.html

by Robin Marty
March 18, 2012
11:00 pm

When politicians run for office, they are supposed to represent all of their constituents. But how many of them really are in touch with the every day struggles of the working class.

In fact, how many of them even know what the minimum wage is? Very few.

It became all too apparent when three Republican candidates vying for the party nomination in Missouri were asked whether they knew the federal minimum wage, and whether they would agree to raise it. All three unanimously agreed that there should be no increase — despite the fact that they had no idea what the current wage was.

FULL story at link.

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Politicians Don’t Know The Minimum Wage, But Know It’s Too Much (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2012 OP
Raising the minimum wage is too much like raising taxes on the wealthy... rfranklin Mar 2012 #1
Republican politicians try not to acknowledge the minimum wage workers liberal N proud Mar 2012 #2
The lack of increases for the lowest paid has made gigantic gains possible for the highest paid... rfranklin Mar 2012 #16
Unbelievable. It's their JOB to know facts and figures regarding the populace they govern. BlueJazz Mar 2012 #3
Then again... elzenmahn Mar 2012 #10
Keep in mind that the Republicans are going after the voting base that abhor facts. Larry Ogg Mar 2012 #13
Actually they not only didn't know what rate it is RegieRocker Mar 2012 #4
I don't understand what your point is... Bruce Wayne Mar 2012 #6
That's something that I hear a lot on DU. Boojatta Mar 2012 #12
That's a good question. Boojatta Mar 2012 #11
speaking of "what is not in reality" hfojvt Mar 2012 #14
It was stated that it is too high. End of story. RegieRocker Mar 2012 #15
stated where? hfojvt Mar 2012 #17
You got to be fooling yourself. Roflmao yea they were complaining it is too low. RegieRocker Mar 2012 #21
except that, just like with Goldilocks, there are three choices hfojvt Mar 2012 #22
"I think it’s high enough as it is." 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #23
2 out of 3 said that it shouldn't exist. RegieRocker Mar 2012 #24
I only read about one saying that hfojvt Mar 2012 #25
EACH of these 3 Bozo's has a Facebook page, how about SamG Mar 2012 #5
Bastards. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #7
My idea for a constitutional amendment: Proud Public Servant Mar 2012 #8
As long as the fixed multiple is no greate than 1 - Congress is part-time saras Mar 2012 #9
What's good for the goose ... lpbk2713 Mar 2012 #18
I bet they know how much the office they are running for pays! Omaha Steve Mar 2012 #19
They are puppets!!! Someone else is pulling the strings!!! Initech Mar 2012 #20
 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
1. Raising the minimum wage is too much like raising taxes on the wealthy...
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:55 AM
Mar 2012

it is strictly forbidden, and besides, those slackers don't even deserve what they get now. If they really worked hard they would be millionaires.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
2. Republican politicians try not to acknowledge the minimum wage workers
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:01 AM
Mar 2012

These are the people they are trying to prevent from voting with the Voter ID laws and other restrictions on voting.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
16. The lack of increases for the lowest paid has made gigantic gains possible for the highest paid...
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 02:48 PM
Mar 2012

it is as simple as that.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
3. Unbelievable. It's their JOB to know facts and figures regarding the populace they govern.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:08 AM
Mar 2012

Can you imagine an office worker getting a job and not knowing how to spell or type.
...or a Musician getting on stage and saying "I'm not sure how to play"

AGGGHHH!

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
10. Then again...
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:15 AM
Mar 2012

Facts and figures have never been important to the Repubs.

I'm forgetting who it was on the Repub side who said this, but it was mentioned that they we're not in the business of dealing with reality so much as "creating reality"? Not to mention, how often do the legislators actually read the bills they are voting on or submitting? Remember the Patriot Act, and what John Conyers said in Farenheit 9-11? What of all of the bills being crafted by ALEC?

Larry Ogg

(1,474 posts)
13. Keep in mind that the Republicans are going after the voting base that abhor facts.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:50 AM
Mar 2012

It's the only way that they and the Economic Royalty can acquire, and maintain the political power to keep the overwhelming majority stupefyingly ignorant, and indentured servants to a class of super rich predators, aka the 1%.

 

RegieRocker

(4,226 posts)
4. Actually they not only didn't know what rate it is
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:25 AM
Mar 2012

but they also stated it's too high. How can one convince themselves it's too high when they don't know what the rate is? These people believe what they manifest in their brain not what is reality. They do not have a clue nor care to have one.

 

Boojatta

(12,231 posts)
11. That's a good question.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:35 AM
Mar 2012
How can one convince themselves it's too high when they don't know what the rate is?

Perhaps they are failing to express their own thoughts in an accurate way.

The following questions might elicit or evoke revealing replies:

1. Is it possible that the minimum wage levels as currently set have such a small effect that you cannot determine whether the effect is good or whether the effect is bad?

2. Is it a waste of law enforcement resources to investigate allegations of people working for wages below minimum wage and employers employing them for below minimum wage?

3. Would you encourage unemployed people who are represented by you politically (or whom you hope to represent politically) to seek out opportunities to work for below minimum wage?

4. Do laws that restrict or prohibit cruelty to animals go too far? Should a higher level of cruelty to animals be legal?

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
14. speaking of "what is not in reality"
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:18 AM
Mar 2012

Did they really state "it is too high"?

The headline of the OP implies that, but that seems to be a distortion. One wants to eliminate it, but the other two seemingly only said that they would not raise it. That is not the same thing as saying it is too high.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
17. stated where?
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
Mar 2012

Seems to me that the headline writer made that up, and you believed it. You cannot prove it, but you are not gonna change your mind.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
22. except that, just like with Goldilocks, there are three choices
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:34 PM
Mar 2012

too low, too high, and juuuust right

Saying that they do NOT want to raise it is simply NOT the same thing as saying they want to lower it.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
23. "I think it’s high enough as it is."
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:45 PM
Mar 2012

A person does NOT say that when they think the quantity in question is just right.

And if you insist on giving Republicans WAY more benefit of doubt than they deserve and claim that's "dubious," there's "I don’t think the government should be setting prices on wages in any way shape or form" - which leaves absolutely no margin for doubt. That person does want to lower it. To zero.

 

RegieRocker

(4,226 posts)
24. 2 out of 3 said that it shouldn't exist.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:13 AM
Mar 2012

That is saying it's too high. The other one tip toed around this issue but she don't fool me. She would like to see it lowered.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
25. I only read about one saying that
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 04:57 AM
Mar 2012

I didn't watch the video and the articles did a poor job of quoting them. I only have one set of speakers and my music is all on my old computer. So I prefer text to video. The articles should have quotes to back up their title.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
5. EACH of these 3 Bozo's has a Facebook page, how about
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:36 AM
Mar 2012

posting some comments on their Facebook page about how poorly they fared when asked that question.

Or perhaps a comment on their Facebook page suggesting they live on minimum wage for a while longer before running for Senate.

https://www.facebook.com/BrunnerForMO

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sarah-Steelman

https://www.facebook.com/supportakin

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
8. My idea for a constitutional amendment:
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:36 AM
Mar 2012

Make congressional salaries a fixed multiple of the minimum wage. That'll make sure congressmen know what it is, and it'll also ensure that it gets raised regularly.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
18. What's good for the goose ...
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:41 PM
Mar 2012



There should be a cap on a candidates net worth before they file to run for any office.


Yeah, sure. Congress would sponsor a bill like that and run it through both House and
Senate and eventually make it the law of the land ... maybe when hell freezes over.


Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
19. I bet they know how much the office they are running for pays!
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:56 PM
Mar 2012

Bellevue City Council $11,000 a year btw.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
20. They are puppets!!! Someone else is pulling the strings!!!
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:44 PM
Mar 2012

And the people pulling the strings know damn fucking well what our wages are and are doing anything they can to suppress our knowledge of what theyre doing to our wages. The simple fact is the billionaire fucking thieves are in charge and they've rigged the system to keep us from finding out the real truth about the fact that they're robbing us blind and getting away with it. The Kochs and their ilk have won and they're playing us for chumps by electing the biggest idiots they can find and whining relentlessly when things don't go their way.

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