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Jello Biafra

(439 posts) Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:29 AM Mar 2012

Rush Out At WABC: Radio Insider-When Rush's contract is up......

Cumulus Media’s flagship station, 77 WABC AM in New York, will replace Rush Limbaugh with Mike Huckabee as soon as the conservative radio icon’s contract is up at the station, claims a radio industry insider.

“I can guarantee you that the minute Cumulus’ contract with Rush expires in New York, they will replace him with Huckabee,” Joel Hollander, the former CEO of CBS Radio now running private investment firm 264 Echo Place Partners, told Reuters in a new interview.

About 140 stations have already signed on to Huckabee’s new show, claims Cumulus co-Chief Operating Officer John Dickey, and that number is steadily growing. Dickey told Reuters that Cumulus has “no plans to drop Rush” from any of its stations at this time and will “honor its contracts.”

Dickey did say some stations have agreed to swap Huckabee with Limbaugh once their contracts with Limbaugh expire, but he declined to say which stations made the agreement.

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http://www.therightperspective.org/2012/03/19/rush-out-at-wabc-radio-insider/

Wondering when Rush's contract is up? I'm thinking four years but is that the same agreement for the stations?

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Rush Out At WABC: Radio Insider-When Rush's contract is up...... (Original Post) Jello Biafra Mar 2012 OP

K and R panader0 Mar 2012 #1

I think that's the point....conservative, but civil. a kennedy Mar 2012 #6

Civil with a devious undertone. asjr Mar 2012 #14

Well - we will just have to keep our ears opened and if Huckleberry Hound crosses the line jillan Mar 2012 #26

RW link ProSense Mar 2012 #2

This may be bigger news richardmyers Mar 2012 #3

Contract expires in 2016 Lil Missy Mar 2012 #4

Translation: Will you PLEASE stop paying attention to this? gratuitous Mar 2012 #5

they're merely replacing him with a slightly less vile human being... KG Mar 2012 #7

It's not what you think liberalpress Mar 2012 #8

It doesn't matter how it comes about, as long as limbaugh stops polluting my airwaves. nt Kahuna Mar 2012 #18

Thanks for pointing that out. Important to know. freshwest Mar 2012 #19

He's the vile voice The Wizard Mar 2012 #9

Maybe THIS is the way to get Rush off the air. Radio stations just don't pick up or renew the Justice wanted Mar 2012 #10

Since the ProSense Mar 2012 #11

So just who are John and Frank? Professional callers maybe? groundloop Mar 2012 #21

So from Rush to Huckabee? Isnt that just trading one evil for another? cstanleytech Mar 2012 #12

There's a huge difference between him and Limbaugh, and it's not just weight. denverbill Mar 2012 #17

"Limbaugh is NOT the new Goebbels, he's just an Entertainer"...... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #13

Slightly good news but I won't really believe that corporations came to their senses until his gtar100 Mar 2012 #15

i'm sure huckabee's full of shit, barbtries Mar 2012 #16

I will believe it when I see it happen liberal N proud Mar 2012 #20

You'll have ProSense Mar 2012 #24

DITTO!!!! CRK7376 Mar 2012 #27

Adios, Douche Bag. sarcasmo Mar 2012 #22

Here's a ProSense Mar 2012 #23

Hucklebee Iliyah Mar 2012 #25

According to this article, Rush's contract with WABC is up sometime in 2013... Jello Biafra Mar 2012 #28

Rush's contract with Premier/Clear Channel differs from the Premiere/Clear contracts to stations Julian Englis Mar 2012 #29

panader0

(25,816 posts)

1. K and R

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:33 AM

Mar 2012

It's great to get rid of Rush, but Huckleberry isn't much of an improvement. More civil at least.

a kennedy

(29,661 posts)

6. I think that's the point....conservative, but civil.

Reply to panader0 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:53 AM

Mar 2012

Wont' be listening anyway.......

asjr

(10,479 posts)

14. Civil with a devious undertone.

Reply to panader0 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:41 AM

Mar 2012

jillan

(39,451 posts)

26. Well - we will just have to keep our ears opened and if Huckleberry Hound crosses the line

Reply to panader0 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:44 AM

Mar 2012

we will know what to do.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)

2. RW link

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:45 AM

Mar 2012

On The RIGHT Perspective with Frank of Queens and John of Staten Island, opinions that are as subtle as an iceberg in a shipping lane fly fast and furious on all topics. With Frank and John’s combination of hard-hitting no-holds-barred honesty, knowledge of current and historical events, passion, common sense, and facts, Liberal arguments dissolve like an aspirin under Niagara Falls. That is why it wasn’t long after the dawn of talk radio that Frank and John became the most well known callers to talk radio – nationally as well as locally.

http://www.therightperspective.org/about-2/

When his contract is up? Sounds like the right wing assholes are trying to buy Rush more time.

richardmyers

(71 posts)

3. This may be bigger news

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:46 AM

Mar 2012

http://www.radio-info.com/news/another-no-limbaugh-list

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)

4. Contract expires in 2016

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:48 AM

Mar 2012

Not soon enough

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)

5. Translation: Will you PLEASE stop paying attention to this?

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:51 AM

Mar 2012

That vile human being has been a steady and reliable source of income for radio stations across the country for years. It appears that his network has finally taken a hit to the bottom line, and the company that syndicates that vile human being's show has been hoping it would all blow over in a couple of weeks, just like it always has.

Premiere Networks can't afford to give away its top of the line product for free indefinitely, but they're having to do that now. Keep the pressure on, folks. Soon that vile human being can be free to say whatever stupidities he wants but without the fat paycheck.

KG

(28,751 posts)

7. they're merely replacing him with a slightly less vile human being...

Reply to gratuitous (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:53 AM

Mar 2012

liberalpress

(1,554 posts)

8. It's not what you think

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:53 AM

Mar 2012

Cumulus just bought the former ABC stations. hey will replace clear-channel's Limbaugh with heir own Huckabee wherever and whenever possible. It has nothing to do with the recent kerfluffle.

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)

18. It doesn't matter how it comes about, as long as limbaugh stops polluting my airwaves. nt

Reply to liberalpress (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:40 AM

Mar 2012

freshwest

(53,661 posts)

19. Thanks for pointing that out. Important to know.

Reply to liberalpress (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:58 AM

Mar 2012

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)

9. He's the vile voice

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:55 AM

Mar 2012

of Republican hatred. Leave him on the air as a reminder of what Repubes stand for.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)

10. Maybe THIS is the way to get Rush off the air. Radio stations just don't pick up or renew the

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:56 AM

Mar 2012

contract that is expiring.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)

11. Since the

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:00 AM

Mar 2012

new fad is to drive traffic at RW sites, soak it in:

<...>

John’s tell-it-like-it-is delivery in his phone calls to talk shows over the years has endeared him to those who agree and invoked anger and outrage from those who disagree. It is often wondered how John comes up with all the facts, dates, and sources to validate his or Frank’s commentary on so many issues. John explains, “There is no need for conservatives to lie, fabricate, or distort. Liberals have to — because everything they believe goes against human nature and history has proven them to be wrong on almost every major issue. I do not lie or make up anything I speak about for one good reason — once someone discovers that you have lied to them or been cutesy with the facts, they will never believe anything you say from that point on.” A knockout blow can easily be administered when facts and sources are consistently at his fingertips. The greatest enemy of the political “left” are facts! Liberals have taught John that since they choose to believe what they want, John keeps a notebook computer close by to pull up facts on almost any political subject. His database is constantly being updated as history unwinds.

<...>

During the glory days of talk radio in the early ‘90s, there was no limit to the number of shows Frank and John could call, but after Bill Clinton blamed the Oklahoma City bombing on talk radio in an attempt to silence many of his critics, things changed. Talk station managers and producers actually let Clinton’s opportunistic drivel intimidate them. Outspoken callers, and especially the most popular regular ones, including Frank and John, were suddenly given less time to express their opinions, passed over by the call screeners, and eventually, it was made clear that they were not welcome and banned from many stations. In fact, callers in general had become an after thought. Talk shows began, at least it seemed, to be just for the host or hosts. They continued to take calls but it seemed that every caller was told “You have thirty seconds.” or “We’re up on a break, make it quick… etc.” The “silent hang up” became the standard to shorten calls and dispense with any real give and take. Real conversation all but disappeared.

<...>

When listening, nothing short of the Truth is given; Frank and John deliver the real thing.

BATTLE ON, PATRIOT! BATTLE ON!

http://www.therightperspective.org/about-2/

Good stuff, huh?

groundloop

(11,519 posts)

21. So just who are John and Frank? Professional callers maybe?

Reply to ProSense (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:19 AM

Mar 2012

I'd never heard of them, but then again I've never listened to more than a minute or two of hate radio. It certainly sounds like they were paid to be such reliable callers. For one thing how else could they consistently get through? And besides that, how could they dedicate so much time to being callers on hate radio if they had to actually work for a living?

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)

12. So from Rush to Huckabee? Isnt that just trading one evil for another?

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:01 AM

Mar 2012

denverbill

(11,489 posts)

17. There's a huge difference between him and Limbaugh, and it's not just weight.

Reply to cstanleytech (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:32 AM

Mar 2012

All Rush does is defame, dehumanize, and demonize people. You can disagree with Sandra Fluke or Barack Obama and not call her a prostitute or him a Muslim terrorist.

At least Huckabee is civil.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)

13. "Limbaugh is NOT the new Goebbels, he's just an Entertainer"......

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:03 AM

Mar 2012

"and his widespread presence on domestic radio and Armed Forces Radio world-wide is PURELY a business decision"

Getting more and more threadbare, no?

gtar100

(4,192 posts)

15. Slightly good news but I won't really believe that corporations came to their senses until his

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:19 AM

Mar 2012

drivel no longer pollutes the airwaves.

barbtries

(28,794 posts)

16. i'm sure huckabee's full of shit,

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:32 AM

Mar 2012

but he's never struck me as full of hate, so all things considered this is good. sort of.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)

20. I will believe it when I see it happen

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:00 AM

Mar 2012

ProSense

(116,464 posts)

24. You'll have

Reply to liberal N proud (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:31 AM

Mar 2012

to wait until the end of 2016. The piece gives the impression that Limbaugh is going to be gone soon.

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)

27. DITTO!!!!

Reply to liberal N proud (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:47 AM

Mar 2012

oops, I meant me too. When he's finally off the air, especially AFN, I'll be very happy.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)

22. Adios, Douche Bag.

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:23 AM

Mar 2012

ProSense

(116,464 posts)

23. Here's a

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:29 AM

Mar 2012

good article: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002440673#post1

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

25. Hucklebee

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:33 AM

Mar 2012

is wrapped up in sheep clothing while carrying pure hatred. This is not a man of God.

Jello Biafra

(439 posts)

28. According to this article, Rush's contract with WABC is up sometime in 2013...

Reply to Jello Biafra (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:23 PM

Mar 2012

http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/

Talkers: Cumulus claims to have about 140 stations ready to air Huckabee – about 45 of those are Cumulus-owned stations. . . . The Limbaugh contract with WABC reportedly doesn’t end until 2013 but such a prediction is not so far out. Every syndicator in the business wants a New York affiliate so why wouldn’t Cumulus put its own product – assuming it is performing – on its own station? Meanwhile, Premiere Networks issues this statement: “Rush Limbaugh continues to be the No. 1 talk radio host in America. Mike Huckabee is the latest in a long line of those who have attempted to compete with Rush."

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)

29. Rush's contract with Premier/Clear Channel differs from the Premiere/Clear contracts to stations

Reply to Jello Biafra (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:43 PM

Mar 2012

Station contracts to air Limbaugh expire at all different time as they were signed all the time.

There may be other ways for stations to drop the show without having to pay a penalty. I don't know.

About what I am particularly curious is whether there are performance clauses as to ratings and advertisers that allow a station to cancel or drop the show or a receive a discount/refund/etc. If there are and ratings are dropping (which they were prior to the Fluke events) and/or enough advertisers refuse to buy, can stations dump the show for not living to guarantees in ratings and/or ability to generate ad revenue.

Terrestrial broadcast radio is shrinking anyway, so ad revenues are harder to come by. The boycott of Limbaugh along with the increased competition may combine to cut into the ability of his show to generate revenue in this shrinking market. This would in turn reduce the incentive to broadcast his show and cripple Clear Channel .

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