Is there some serious pathology at work here? A passive-aggressive slap in the face to his wife that he delivers on a daily basis?

is an attonement for her earlier sins?

especially in the internet world.

Mr. and Mrs. Santorum need to look in the mirror and Shut Up !

Next year, it'll be, "Rick WHO?"

Then, she can write another book.

import, IMO. Many people who are liberal in their young adulthood become conservative later. Sounds like he was a playboy type and probably cheated on her and it is her anger and the betrayal that has driven her in these ensuing years.

Karen Garver Santorum's PR firm. Bit of a stretch to presume the Dr. was a "playboy type" and "probably" cheated
on her is approaching slander of a man whose relationship we know little about.

brief description of him. Point taken

understand how it would be interpreted that way.

a guy forty two years her senior, who DELIVERED HER AS A BABY, who runs an abortion clinic, and who later delivered at least one her HER kids. Oh, and then after she breaks up with Doctor Choice (the reason was said to be she wanted kids, he, in his sixties, had had enough of that), she marries Senator AntiChoice, and turns into a persistently pregnant Stepford Wife.

Then later, she sends Dr. Choice a card that says "I miss you."

You don't think a spouse tells us much about their partner? People choose others for a reason. Sometimes many reasons.

Yeah, nothing to see here....move right along!

in its entirety and not amidst my morning rush, sorry. She sent him a card expressing that she misses him? I am speechless

I do that sometimes, skim through and miss the full story

Just sort of took me off guard after having read the story.

off guard, it made rouge unnecessary for me this AM. Thanks for understanding

the women are mentally-ill "make-up-reality-as-you-go, and if-I-can-imagine-it-then-it's-MY-reality" quacks. They're just mentally ill to the max, but they have a world stage on which to try to legitimatize their point of view. They are just fuckin crazy.

This post makes no sense.

There's no evidence that the doctor was even a Republican, let alone a 'pedophile.' From the information here, he sounds more like a moderate and maybe even a liberal. And the relationship began when Mrs. Santorum was in here 20s. That's not 'pedophilia.' Is a 40-year age gap a little unusual and perhaps unsettling to some? Sure. But it's not a crime.

And how is this evidence that she's 'mentally ill?' She had a relationship with an older man, then moved on and settled down with a man closer to her own age. That kind of thing happens sometimes. Who the hell cares?

the tendency of the GOPers to be living lives that in no way represent who they actually are. Family values? We find out that the congressmen who support that the loudest end up chasing their young male staff members, soliciting male and female prostitutes, Rush Limpballs travelling to isolated places that are known for selling the services of LITTLE boys.

My point was that Mrs. Santorum represents the opposite of what she has been.

But I've never seen any evidence that he has a penchant for young boys.

As for people like Larry Craig, David Vitter, and Mark Foley, it's all about numbers. While these cases make huge headlines, people should resist the temptation to use them as poster children for the GOP. They are all hypocrites, but they are a small part of the GOP congressional delegation.

It's not any different from saying that the CBC is a bunch of crooks because people like Charlie Rangel, Maxine Waters, and Jesse Jackson Jr. have been accused of ethics violations. They aren't the whole CBC, they are just three members of it (yes I know, Jesse has never been formally charged with anything). Same thing with NY Democrats. Eliot Spitzer and Anthony Weiner are kind of sleazy, but they really aren't typical of Democrats from NY. Or Blago for that matter. He's one dumbass and not at all indicative of how most Democrats behave.

But none of this really even matters when talking about Mrs. Santorum. She was in her 20s when she was with this guy. Many people are a whole lot different at 45 than they were at 25.

I have personally known many women who, as young persons, were the consummate "wild-child", and who later "found Jesus" and did a 180.

I had a best-friend/neighbor who ran away from home at 16, got pregnant (she married the guy later) and at 30 joined a near-cult evangelical group.. Even the Jim Jones thing did not dissuade her from selling one of their cars to donate to "father"...so they could buy some land in Missouri for their "compound"..

She has been put in the role of being home all day with the kids.
As much as I love my girls - they are the most precious things in the world to me - I celebrated the day my youngest started kindergarten just so I could breathe.
She has them all day, every day - and has the challenges of a special needs child as well.

I bet Rick never makes dinner or helps around the house because a jerk like him probably thinks that is the woman's job.

Not to mention that she is probably out of her mind from sexual frustration.

As one woman to another, I truly feel sorry for her.... and even more sorry for her because she chose this life inspite of the fact that other women fought so hard to give her a better life.

I'm glad that there was a time in her life when she had fun and she can use those memories during her darkest times.

Yes it is hypocritical in so many ways. But I am looking at her from the lens of being another woman, and she saddens me.

anyone man or women who dates anyone 40 years older than their age is a weirdo.

That she's amazed to see women while on her husband's road show who have strong opinions on matters such as the economy. She was never in that position, she's been on the sidelines her entire life, supporting whatever man she's been in bed with.

The much younger Ricky must have seemed like a boy toy after bedding the doctor who brought her into the world, forty years her senior. Oh, yeah, you know she's gotta be happy now.

It just slips my mind at the moment. I'm sure he'll be all over this story, won't he?

I hate to admit to being willing to blow out Sanctimonious' presidential aspirations by assassinating his wife's character, but I kind of want to go there too.

I can come up with all kinds of theories about Santorum's Savior complex which could easily include "saving" his wife from her former sinful ways, but it doesn't matter except as a parlor game. What does matter is whether people are willing to bring it up in order to help derail what is a very dangerous man's political aspirations.

For now, it's just something to pass around. Mention it to a wingnut, let them disbelieve you, get their email address, and send them the link to the story.

Santorum was hardly in a position to save anyone, with all the beer chugging he did in college. If anything, the wife probably did her one-eighty after she realized Doctor Choice was done with having kids, hooked up with Li'l Ricky, and dragged him into sanctimony!

Guess it's just an exercise on my part on trying to figure out what makes people tick and just how damaged the people running for office are.

The difference between the Democrats who have had similiar problems, the main reason for the anger and retorts, is that we are not trying to mandate what is going on in someone else's bedroom. Democrats never do.

No one stood with a cattle prod like they're doing in Texas, to ensure that women are pro-life enough and to punish Rick for drinking himself silly, or this woman for being what she was and recovering from it, hopefully.

I guess that was a pretty nasty statement about Rick being her boy toy, but how any woman beds a man for a place to stay and upkeep, is simply beyond me. It seems totally unnatural to surrender one's body in that fashion.

They don't call marriage the world's second oldest profession for nothing. We know what the first one is. Think I should edit that, Nola?

she left him.................hey Rush, what does that make HER?

The doctor who delivered you? Creepy. She couldn't find another "older man" who wasn't actually at her birth? Having your lover perform an abortion on you? Creepy. She couldn't find a different doctor? After all this, it actually makes sense that she would marry CREEPY Saint Rick.

This whole "affair" sounds like a very bad Soap. General Hospital? St. Elsewhere? You couldn't make this stuff up.

Maybe some of Santorum's fanaticism on related subjects is linked to jealousy, even though the affair was before she met him?

Whatever the reasons, he's revolting!

That is what the book she wrote was about. So they made money off their dead baby. He refuses to say anything about it except
that it was not an abortion but a "necessary procedure to save Karen's life". Seems to me when you sign for your doctor to induce labor knowing full well that the baby will not survive outside the uterus, you cannot shrug it off as not being an abortion.

some mysterious hold these megalomaniacs
have on a woman's body and mind

What's also weird is there are no other major news sources that picked up on this story. I tried a dozen Google News search using various key words such as "Karen," "abortion," "Allen," "Santorum," "Carver" and turned up nothing--not even the Daily Mail Story. A regular Google search does turn up the Daily Fail story but no other major news providers--just Huffington Post and Kos type aggregators.

This is whole story rather strange.

may-be 1-2 mo. ago, it's old news.

about this woman of loose morals and easy virtue?

not because of the facts (which I knew) but because of the wording. "Abortion doctor"? REALLY? Then I clicked the post and saw that the link is from the Daily Fail, and all is explained. OB/GYN who happened to provide abortion services as part of his practice != "abortion doctor".