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solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:30 AM Jan 2014

Cold? Build it yourself Solar Heater using empty coke cans and plywood

Last edited Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Beats $5/gallon propane







Edit to add: I'm not the guy in the videos. I just saw them and wanted to pass along the info. There are multiple videos that show similar approaches, search solar can heater or similar.
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Cold? Build it yourself Solar Heater using empty coke cans and plywood (Original Post) solarhydrocan Jan 2014 OP
Sorry. They have to beer cans. nt longship Jan 2014 #1
K&R! PotatoChip Jan 2014 #2
Well done! berni_mccoy Jan 2014 #3
Way cool! I mean, hot!!! nt valerief Jan 2014 #4
Brilliant! Nt riqster Jan 2014 #5
I live in NE MN - wonder how this would work in our climate? jwirr Jan 2014 #6
not very well hfojvt Jan 2014 #7
You do realize that the (physicist) guy who developed these and markets them TalkingDog Jan 2014 #9
then how come he's not wearing hfojvt Jan 2014 #20
This guy? solarhydrocan Jan 2014 #21
Most years we do not have much sun in the winter but this year it has been out a lot more. jwirr Jan 2014 #15
I just remember cloudy, gloomy, drizzly springs hfojvt Jan 2014 #16
LOL jwirr Jan 2014 #17
It should work well as long as you get sun. TalkingDog Jan 2014 #10
Did it. Will do it again on a smaller scale for outbuildings. TalkingDog Jan 2014 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #11
Welcome to DU Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2014 #13
Brilliant! JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #12
I built one of these once and powered it with a solar powered fan.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #14
I'll check this out later. Thanks! deutsey Jan 2014 #18
here is a better video maindawg Jan 2014 #19
Interesting blackspade Jan 2014 #22
one mod that comes to my mind sweetapogee Jan 2014 #23
That was one of thoughts as well. blackspade Jan 2014 #24
great minds sweetapogee Jan 2014 #25
but you have to get the sun's rays in Aerows Feb 2014 #32
used sliding glass door panels onethatcares Feb 2014 #35
Because that's where the sun comes in to heat the steel cans. marybourg Jan 2014 #27
well sweetapogee Jan 2014 #29
That was my thought Aerows Feb 2014 #33
Should also flip the unit over, intake should be at the top, exhaust at bottom. Sirveri Feb 2014 #34
I don't understand your point sl8 Feb 2014 #38
He has a fan, he doesn't need natural circulation. Also the unit is never truly off. Sirveri Feb 2014 #39
Interesting. Are there efficiencies gained by "pre-heated" intake air? Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #43
Now if we could only get the sun to shine liberal N proud Jan 2014 #26
Thank you for this! WhiteTara Jan 2014 #28
very very cool MindMover Feb 2014 #30
That is so cool - like a solar oven Aerows Feb 2014 #31
Aren't people remarkable? PCIntern Feb 2014 #36
Also this, if you tend to be lazy like me Shankapotomus Feb 2014 #37
One word: windows Coyotl Feb 2014 #40
There are some smart folks out there. NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #41
bookmarked! K&R B Calm Feb 2014 #42

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
7. not very well
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jan 2014

if the sun shines as little in NE Minnesota as it does in SE MN

But even if it does not provide ALL your heat, it could provide a supplement.

Actually in my one winter in outdoor Wisconsin, I found that on sunny days in my mobile home, just opening the curtains meant that I did not need a fire on a sunny day, even a cold sunny day. It was warmer (20s, 30s, 40s) cloudy days that meant I needed to burn wood to keep warm.

But when I say "warm" I only mean 65 degrees or so.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
9. You do realize that the (physicist) guy who developed these and markets them
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jan 2014

lives in Canada? Sells them in Canada, they work in Canada just fine.

You simply have to build it correctly.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
20. then how come he's not wearing
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jan 2014

a toque?

Canada may have sunshine, but Minnesota, because it is to the west of Lake Michigan, mostly does not.

See, clouds come rolling over the prairie and then they reach Lake Michigan, where they have to line up to take the ferry at Manitowoc. Which can only take so many at a time.

So they back up and stack up over Wisconsin and Minnesota, often backing up all the way to Marshall, if not Ivanhoe. It can take weeks to clear those cloud jams, and by then, the next batch of clouds comes rolling in.

I used to joke in Richland Center, Wisconsin on a sunny spring day "Remember, we only get 100 hours of sunshine a year, we don't want to use them all up in March."

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
21. This guy?
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jan 2014


Brilliant Newfoundlander Invents the Solution!

Uploaded on Feb 20, 2008

Jim Meaney, owner of Cansolair Inc. displays how he converts pop cans into a powerful solar heating panel.

Edit: http://www.examiner.com/article/beer-can-solar-heater-provides-free-heat

Jim Meaney began experimenting with the idea of making solar tubes from beer cans to create a solar panel back in 1977.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. Most years we do not have much sun in the winter but this year it has been out a lot more.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:12 PM
Jan 2014

Maybe part of this polar thing.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
16. I just remember cloudy, gloomy, drizzly springs
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jan 2014

at the University of Minnesota.

So I tend to think of Minnesota as "where the sun don't shine".

Maybe that's because I grew up in the sunshine state.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
10. It should work well as long as you get sun.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:57 AM
Jan 2014
http://cansolair.com/ Even on days when there are thin or intermittent fluffy clouds we get some heat out of ours.

Response to solarhydrocan (Original post)

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
22. Interesting
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jan 2014

I wonder how the heat effects the foam liner especially at the top of the stack.

I can think of several modifications that might make this work better.

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
23. one mod that comes to my mind
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jan 2014

not that I know much about it though. If you go through all of the trouble of insulating the back and sides of the panel, why not use insulated thermo pane glass on the front? It seems like heat would escape through the single layer Plexiglas front panel.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. but you have to get the sun's rays in
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 12:32 AM
Feb 2014

So what would you use? Lexar is pretty good. I'd silicon it to the box myself to absolutely prevent heat loss, but I can't really think of a readily available material that would work better to allow in heat and transmit it to the coils (the beer cans).

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
27. Because that's where the sun comes in to heat the steel cans.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jan 2014

If you insulate against the entry of the sun, you're preventing the box from working efficiently.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
34. Should also flip the unit over, intake should be at the top, exhaust at bottom.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:18 AM
Feb 2014

Hot air rises, that would promote air circulation by displacing the cold air and forcing it upwards. Another alternate would be to put the exhaust and intake both at the bottom with a dividing wall in the center of the lower plenum, this would create a two pass system that would double the exhaust temperature. Also with the intake at the bottom it would be easier to add and change the air filter.

sl8

(13,829 posts)
38. I don't understand your point
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 07:55 PM
Feb 2014

Hot air will rise, as you said, and naturally exit at the top of the device, drawing in cold air at the bottom of the device. This is known as the stack effect or chimney effect. To what purpose are you suggesting to reverse this flow?

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
39. He has a fan, he doesn't need natural circulation. Also the unit is never truly off.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:44 AM
Feb 2014

With natural circulation, on a sunny summer day this device will be putting heat into the building because it does not require a fan to function. Flipping it eliminates this issue (technically mitigates would be more accurate, he should also install a damper to shut off air flow). It also promotes natural circulation inside the structure and creates a more uniform temperature inside the building instead of having all the heat build up at the roofline (where it could potentially leak out depending on insulation).

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
28. Thank you for this!
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:52 PM
Jan 2014

I think this is something we could do. I'd love to convert our house to add this to the heating system. I'll have to show this to some handy people and see what can be done.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. That is so cool - like a solar oven
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 12:30 AM
Feb 2014

That's like the solar oven projects (which I built one, I couldn't resist). It will heat and cook food even if it is like 30F outside. Easy as pie, and really neat. Flat black paint retains heat if you cover the object you cook in with it, then create an environment that traps heat. Nothing else is really required!

PCIntern

(25,564 posts)
36. Aren't people remarkable?
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 08:09 AM
Feb 2014

Really...this is the best example I've seen in a while of what makes humans so fascinating. that and the Free Porn sites...oops...did I just write that?

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