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icymist

(15,888 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:45 PM Jan 2014

Metal band Skinny Puppy send US government invoice after finding out their music was 'used as tortur

The US Army's use of Metallica's oeuvre as a tool in its interrogations in Iraq is well documented, but it opted for something a little more esoteric in Guantanamo Bay, according to one Canadian industrial metal band.

"We heard through a reliable grapevine that our music was being used in Guantanamo Bay prison camps to musically stun or torture people," founder Evin Key told the Phoenix New Times. "We heard that our music was used on at least four occasions."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/metal-band-skinny-puppy-send-us-government-invoice-after-finding-out-their-music-was-used-as-torture-device-in-guantanamo-bay-9100005.html

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Metal band Skinny Puppy send US government invoice after finding out their music was 'used as tortur (Original Post) icymist Jan 2014 OP
When Manny Noriega took refuge in the Vatican embassy in Panama City after the US invasion... Octafish Jan 2014 #1
I think they used ACDC for that. L0oniX Jan 2014 #13
They're not a metal band, but ok. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #2
I love Skinny Puppy! ellie Jan 2014 #3
+1. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #4
The author gets cEvin Key's name wrong. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #5
Is Ogre still around? flamingdem Jan 2014 #6
Skinny Puppy is underrated, great band flamingdem Jan 2014 #7
Uh-oh. I did the exact same thing to my neighbors in the early 90's. Throd Jan 2014 #8
Seeing Skinny Puppy live sharp_stick Jan 2014 #9
The best show I've ever been to. SaltyBro Jan 2014 #12
They probably already got paid for this and just didn't realize it. cbdo2007 Jan 2014 #10
I doubt the military is sending $ each time they play a song over a PA system. El_Johns Jan 2014 #11
Band Sends $666K Bill for Songs Played at Gitmo Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #14
I love how the military is suddenly playing like they're stupid regarding this matter: icymist Feb 2014 #15

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. When Manny Noriega took refuge in the Vatican embassy in Panama City after the US invasion...
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:49 PM
Jan 2014

...PsyOps played bad, but loud, rock over the loudspeakers until he surrendered nine days later.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
3. I love Skinny Puppy!
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:53 PM
Jan 2014

Worlock, from the album Rabies, is my favorite. I hope they get their money.

I am going to listen to it now.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
9. Seeing Skinny Puppy live
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jan 2014

from about 10 feet away is still one of the highlights of my musical life experience. I suppose if they wanted to torture me by playing music they'd be getting sued by One Direction or Big Time Rush.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
10. They probably already got paid for this and just didn't realize it.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jan 2014

I don't think they send you an itemized list of exactly where and when each of your songs was played when they pay royalty checks.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
11. I doubt the military is sending $ each time they play a song over a PA system.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jan 2014

Highly unlikely they got royalties.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
14. Band Sends $666K Bill for Songs Played at Gitmo
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 04:30 PM
Feb 2014

A Pentagon spokesman said Thursday that the DefenseDepartment knows nothing about a Canadian rock band's claim for compensation for the use of its music during interrogations at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The Vancouver-based band Skinny Puppy says it sent the invoice for $666,000 for "musical services" after learning that its music had been played at extreme volume at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay.

Keyboardist Cevin Key said the band found out from a fan, who was a former Guantanamo Bay guard, that its music was played in the military prison where top terrorism suspects have been held.

Key told Canada's CTV News that band members were offended to find out that their music had been used "as an actual weapon against somebody."

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/02/07/band-sends-666k-bill-for-songs-played-at-gitmo.html?comp=700001075741&rank=3

icymist

(15,888 posts)
15. I love how the military is suddenly playing like they're stupid regarding this matter:
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 10:41 PM
Feb 2014

From the article:
A Pentagon spokesman told DPA that the Defense Department had not received an invoice from the band, and said, "I'm not even sure how, functionally, how such a process might work."

The spokesman said the United States was committed to ensuring detainees are treated humanely in all circumstances, consistent with treaty obligations and U.S.law and policy.


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Well Mr. Pentagon Spokesman, they are called royalty payments. When you use recorded, copyrighted material for a public performance (i.e. playing the music over loudspeakers in the Guantanamo Bay prison) then the party playing the sound recording pays the artist a small amount each time it is played. Here is a link to the US copyright law regarding this matter:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap10.html#1007

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