And still do, actually, waning though it may be. This is coming from Kerry's side of the store. The buck stops somewhere else.

We shall see.

board.

This has consistently been a "Republican Lite" administration, and that's taking into account the new definition of "lite" these days...

Sure looks like it's a done deal now.

And he was saying the same shit. Looks like it'll be months before I bother with him again.

He actually said to the effect of "big oil owns the senate and there is nothing we can do about it so we might as well go with it".

Environmental Network who are against this and not going to give up. And, Obama has big fundraiser whose going to put money into stopping this...according to NYT article linked below in this thread. But, even without that Donor...there is still a coalition of Enviro Groups who will be active.

And, if the latest Environmental Report turns out to have been influenced by Trans Canada that will cause more delays. Maybe there will be a Snowden type leaker who will "connect the dots" and find how that report which Kerry hasn't read yet might have been slanted towards approval.

One never knows these days...

That isn't what they said at all. Way to spew though based on a one line article.

Of course your one line article didnt include this part

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/01/31/state-dept-raises-major-environmental-objections-keystone-oil-pipeline/0ohJQas2lRnv20mf4r8QGL/story.html

DU seems infested with them ever since January 2009. Too many "DUers" are cherry-picking news articles to fool some reactionary DUers who are more than happy to discredit this president any which way they can.

in real world application?

Call me crazy.

things that make you go hmm.

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But environmentalists and other advocates have criticized earlier drafts of the study for failing to take into account the project’s total impact on greenhouse gas emissions. They also point out that the State Department’s Inspector General is conducting an inquiry into whether the contractor tasked with the study, Environmental Resources Management, failed to disclose recent work it did for TransCanada, the company proposing to build Keystone XL, resulting in a conflict of interest.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-keystone-xl-climate-state-department-20140131,0,7560529.story#ixzz2s0nM6XWp

Tell that to the folks in Mayflower, Arkansas!

What the hell do they know? How about scientists?

Nothing will happen until after the election. Then, if Repubs take control of the Senate, they will certainly pass the TPP trade treaty. Also, after the election, you can bet money that the Keystone pipeline will be approved and signed by Barack Obama.

Because the northern stretch of Keystone XL, which would carry 830,000 barrels a day from Hardisty, Alberta, Canada, to Steele City, Neb., would cross a U.S. border, it needs a so-called presidential permit from the State Department. But Obama has said that he would make the final decision.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-keystone-xl-climate-state-department-
20140131,0,7560529.story#ixzz2s0uO8yoe


and even if repukes take the Senate, I doubt it will be a breeze to pass the tpa

Speaking of sugar on a poison pill.......

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/us/politics/report-may-ease-way-to-approval-of-keystone-pipeline.html?_r=0

The long-awaited environmental impact statement on the project concludes that approval or denial of the pipeline, which would carry 830,000 barrels of oil a day from Alberta to the Gulf Coast, is unlikely to prompt oil companies to change the rate of their extraction of carbon-heavy tar sands oil, a State Department official said. Either way, the tar sands oil, which produces significantly more planet-warming carbon pollution than standard methods of drilling, is coming out of the ground, the report says.

In his second term, Mr. Obama has sought to make his fight against climate change a cornerstone of his legacy. In a major speech on the environment last summer, Mr. Obama said that he would approve the pipeline only if it would not “significantly exacerbate” the problem of carbon pollution. He said the pipeline’s net effects on the climate would be “absolutely critical” to his decision.

The conclusions of the report appear to indicate that the project has passed Mr. Obama’s climate criteria, an outcome expected to outrage environmentalists, who have rallied, protested, marched and been arrested in demonstrations around the country against the pipeline.

The project, which has been under review by the State Department since 2008, has become a political lightning rod for both the left and the right. Environmentalists rallying for action on climate change have seized on the pipeline plan as a potent symbol of fossil fuel projects that contribute to global warming.

The article is an excellent, comprehensive read of the situation... The many reports with the latest one being flawed by "conflict of interest" plus the views on the tar sands oil being transported with or without the pipeline. And, not only the State Department signing off but all the other agencies whose jurisdictions involve land or logistics having to sign off on it.

Anyway article does show all the different points of view and how long State Department has been working on getting opinions and reports and the views of some of Obama's advisors and many others including the Enviromental Groups views. A little tidbit about one of Obama's largest donors who is against Keystone and funding efforts to stop it.

It's a bookmark and read later kind of article and a keeper as we watch how this progresses. It ain't quite over yet...which the details in NYT's article points out...although it may be more DELAY until after 2014 Mid-Terms and the odds of whether Dems gain seats in House and Hold Senate....or we lose...and the Business Interest Repugs join with the Safe Dems and like with TPP we get the "GRAND BARGAIN." But, I'm not giving up trying to work to keep both TPP and the finish of the pipeline voted down. But...it will be dependent on that election to some extent. And, we have no assurances about those we will vote for as Dems in Mid-Terms (those of us who have a choice who haven't been gerrymandered like NC has) will not turn out to be DINO's so that even if we get More Dems....we can't control their vote. So there's that bit of discouraging news...but, then...it still ain't over 'til it is. Worth keeping up the fight outside the Parties...because we know we can't hold them to votes from past experience.

Thanks for posting it!

C'mon John, pay attention to the environmental issues presented by scientists, not corporations.

But stay with the peace processes . . .

He deserves a round of applause!

"State Dept.: Keystone XL totally not an environmental concern, so stop saying that."

...some environmentalists want people to stop repeating the media spin.

NRDC: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024423143#post4
Michael Brune: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024423143#post5

They released a report that said it won't impact overall fossil fuel extraction. Are you saying they released yet another one that was a full environmental impact assessment?