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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:33 PM Feb 2014

Breaking: Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman found dead in Manhattan apartment.

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Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman found dead in Manhattan apartment.
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@mpoppel:
New York Post, citing sources: Philip Seymour Hoffman died of apparent drug overdose

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Breaking: Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman found dead in Manhattan apartment. (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 OP
WHO ? bigdarryl Feb 2014 #1
... tammywammy Feb 2014 #6
I don't know how you cannot know him at this point... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #8
If true what a shame Egnever Feb 2014 #43
agreed! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #45
Only one of the most talented actors of his generation alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #15
Personally, never seen any of those movies. Not my cup of tea. X_Digger Feb 2014 #28
he was amazing in Boogie Nights too. And Magnolia. And the master, playing an L Ron Hubbard type. bettyellen Feb 2014 #33
I checked the filmography section of his wiki page.. X_Digger Feb 2014 #47
i know a lot of people find edgier movies too much. and that was kind of his niche. bettyellen Feb 2014 #54
I'm a big reader. X_Digger Feb 2014 #61
can't say I blame you. so many worthless scripts get produced. but sometimes movies can really bettyellen Feb 2014 #65
Sounds like he enjoyed his craft, rather than just going for the money. X_Digger Feb 2014 #70
I was shocked he brought such humanity to the L Ron role..... the juxtaposition of his and bettyellen Feb 2014 #80
i'm not into edgier movies, watched 'be4 the devil' out of curiosity Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #96
I know most won't agree with me... davekriss Feb 2014 #108
He was absolutely great..Could do any role he was handed. n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #52
Owning Mahoney too. Very understated acting but compelling. I even liked him in catbyte Feb 2014 #104
Hoffman's films represent a really broad range demwing Feb 2014 #105
I don't do many movies, period. X_Digger Feb 2014 #110
Well not all cinema is derived from a literary work demwing Feb 2014 #115
All the decent films I've seen are (based on a literary work.) X_Digger Feb 2014 #118
first I remember seeing him... dhill926 Feb 2014 #31
yeah, he was a highlight in that movie for sure fishwax Feb 2014 #71
and with "DOUBT" liberalla Feb 2014 #107
Yes, great in that and whathehell Feb 2014 #126
Don't forget Happiness. JVS Feb 2014 #32
now that was one weird film - but, yes he was brilliant in Happiness as well Douglas Carpenter Feb 2014 #99
Charlie Wilson's War!! longship Feb 2014 #38
That was an excellent film and he did Gus brilliantly. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #125
Cold Mountain, Red Dragon, Ides of March... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #46
Twister, where he played a wild-eyed storm chaser..Loved him in that & virtually everything he did whathehell Feb 2014 #53
I haven't seen that, but think it's in my Netflix queue. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #60
it's very good, both for his performance and it's realistic, harrowing depiction of tornadoes. whathehell Feb 2014 #123
Magnolia. Whisp Feb 2014 #49
He was in the Hunger Games as well. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #75
The Big Lebowski is easily my favorite movie ever. Initech Feb 2014 #85
Yes, he was a superb actor BainsBane Feb 2014 #91
Seriously? You couldn't have done a quick Google? (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2014 #37
Someone always has to jump in with a "Who?" because they are just too ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #55
It's very insensitive... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #63
If I don't recognize the name, I generally don't click on the thread. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #66
I was just thinking the same thing... dorkzilla Feb 2014 #81
A sublimely talented Oscar winner who relied on his HUGE talent (Moneyball, Hunger Games) anneboleyn Feb 2014 #77
I forgot about "Doubt." SMC22307 Feb 2014 #92
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #109
Actually, I've never seen any of those either, kentauros Feb 2014 #114
Yer not missin' much. Iggo Feb 2014 #121
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #122
Wow. Iggo Feb 2014 #120
He was a very good actor Gothmog Feb 2014 #2
That's sad. I like him. n/t tammywammy Feb 2014 #3
Too bad. He's a good actor. MineralMan Feb 2014 #4
Never heard of him treestar Feb 2014 #5
holy shit. damn. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #7
Wow. Stunned LittleBlue Feb 2014 #9
Awful. He was an awesome actor, and I believe he had two kids as well. anneboleyn Feb 2014 #59
yes. a few oscar nominations and one win Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #93
Didn't he win an Oscar for Capote? undeterred Feb 2014 #10
For those who don't recognize his name, you may recognize his face csziggy Feb 2014 #11
RIP YoungDemCA Feb 2014 #12
One of my favorites... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #13
He had a returning role in the third HUNGER GAMES movie. brooklynite Feb 2014 #17
The third Hunger Games book is filmed as two movies. intheflow Feb 2014 #34
Oh shit. Orrex Feb 2014 #14
NO!!!! I love his work. RainDog Feb 2014 #16
Any other sources besides the Murdoch rags? GoCubsGo Feb 2014 #18
MSNBC is reporting it.... Cooley Hurd Feb 2014 #24
Bummer. GoCubsGo Feb 2014 #27
Cannabis poisoning.... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #19
No no no warrior1 Feb 2014 #20
His role in Love Liza may be the most beautifully sad character ever TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #21
oh no....this is horrible, a true talent. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #22
Jesus!!!!! Cooley Hurd Feb 2014 #23
thanks NJCher Feb 2014 #87
I agree - I like the old Irish term "cross gently" personally... Cooley Hurd Feb 2014 #90
Sad, sad, sad. aikoaiko Feb 2014 #25
oh grits this is terrible. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #26
You are so right. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #40
Peace to you grits. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #88
Amen to that and Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #97
That sucks superpatriotman Feb 2014 #29
How sad, a real loss. The loss of his talent will be felt. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #30
No way. That is horrible. He was so young and talented. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #35
RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman Kaleva Feb 2014 #36
:( shenmue Feb 2014 #39
Wow that's tragic Egnever Feb 2014 #41
Gawd dammit. :( The Big Lebowski will never be the same. You were appreciated. nt tridim Feb 2014 #42
Very sad. He was truly talented. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #44
Exactly BuelahWitch Feb 2014 #50
Kids went to public school. narnian60 Feb 2014 #82
I didn't know that about the public schools... SMC22307 Feb 2014 #89
so sad. Whisp Feb 2014 #48
Addiction... a truly horrifying disease etherealtruth Feb 2014 #51
Very sad... SidDithers Feb 2014 #56
Rest in Peace. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #57
How sad! 2naSalit Feb 2014 #58
He struggled with addiction... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #64
Good Grief! 2naSalit Feb 2014 #68
God Damn The Pusher Man... Blue Idaho Feb 2014 #62
Yep, I had the same thought. n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #124
RIP Brandt. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #67
That is very sad news, he was a terrific actor. rudolph the red Feb 2014 #69
Heroine addiction..wow, tragic. His presence on the screen was intense..he was able to Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #72
RIP - (darn) DrDan Feb 2014 #73
Why do all the good ones have to die early? NuclearDem Feb 2014 #74
Idk, NuclearDem, but you are right, and a lot of evil jackasses live long, pampered lives anneboleyn Feb 2014 #79
Sometimes a creative mind wanders into dark places where no one can survive. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #84
Heath Ledger Initech Feb 2014 #86
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead - with Ethan Hawke and Marisa Tomei DrDan Feb 2014 #76
really good movie, didnt think i would like it, loved it Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #95
I loved the use of flashbacks . . .very creative storytelling DrDan Feb 2014 #100
R.I.P., Dusty Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #78
Watch "Mary and Max" if you haven't already... dorkzilla Feb 2014 #83
Very sad. RIP to a very talented actor! cbdo2007 Feb 2014 #94
fuck blogslut Feb 2014 #98
My connevtion is he played in the. movie doubt that was filmed in my church. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #101
He was amazing, one of my favorites Beringia Feb 2014 #102
Oh, no. He was one of my favorite actors. Didn't he go to rehab recently? catbyte Feb 2014 #103
He went the way of Heath Ledger, it seems. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #106
Horrible. What a talent. DanTex Feb 2014 #111
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #112
Heroin took Cory Montieth too soon Aerows Feb 2014 #113
He played a small part in a movie called Cold Mountain. texanwitch Feb 2014 #116
Sad. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #117
I hate when this happens. I hate when extraordinarily talented artists are lost to the rest of us scarletwoman Feb 2014 #119
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
8. I don't know how you cannot know him at this point...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:39 PM
Feb 2014

Played a spectacular version of Truman Capote in the movie based on his life...and Pirate Radio...

He apparently had a history of drug addiction (heroin I believe) and checked himself into rehab just last year.

I think its another case of falling off the wagon and believing you have the same tolerance for the substance you once gave up...

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
43. If true what a shame
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:29 PM
Feb 2014

but not surprising really. He seem to take on roles so personally and he played some really messed up roles. You could see the inner sadness in him in many of the roles he did.

I hope he found peace.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. Only one of the most talented actors of his generation
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:43 PM
Feb 2014

You may have heard of a few little movies like, oh, I dunno

Scent of a Woman (he's the bad guy)
The Talented Mr. Ripley
the Big Lebowski
Mission Impossible 3
Capote (he won a little-known award for his portrayal of Truman Capote - it's called the Academy Award for Best Actor, also called an Oscar...I know, very obscure)
Moneyball
The Master

etc., etc. That's just off the top of my head.

Jesus. That's your response?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
33. he was amazing in Boogie Nights too. And Magnolia. And the master, playing an L Ron Hubbard type.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:09 PM
Feb 2014

Often chose very interesting projects, and brought great humanity to them. Super talented actor.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
47. I checked the filmography section of his wiki page..
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:45 PM
Feb 2014

Seems to have done a lot since he got started in the 90's, just nothing that I'd find interesting.

Shame, really.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
54. i know a lot of people find edgier movies too much. and that was kind of his niche.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:11 PM
Feb 2014

I know my coworkers would all be like "WHO?!" and maybe only recognize him from Hunger Games.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
61. I'm a big reader.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:22 PM
Feb 2014

The budget for camera work and special effects in my mind is infinite, and I can cast any actor alive or dead to play characters.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
65. can't say I blame you. so many worthless scripts get produced. but sometimes movies can really
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:33 PM
Feb 2014

reach or transport me to places beyond my ability to imagine. Like other people sometimes do. And generally Hoffman went for great scripts with very talented supporting casts. The kind that don't sacrifice talent for great looking lead actors. Amazing to have a career like that these days. All too rare.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
70. Sounds like he enjoyed his craft, rather than just going for the money.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:41 PM
Feb 2014

All too rare in entertainers in general. Hats off to him.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
80. I was shocked he brought such humanity to the L Ron role..... the juxtaposition of his and
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 05:05 PM
Feb 2014

Phoenix's characters, both fighting back their demons and flailing for anything to give them strength was quite powerful to see.
A lot of food for thought there, which surprised me because I knew bit too much about Scientology and it's beginnings. But it was really interesting to see their take on this whole struggle for identity, for answers, for belonging. How shooting for normalcy can feel like not enough, so you get yourself a bit crazy reaching for more. And get lost in that.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
96. i'm not into edgier movies, watched 'be4 the devil' out of curiosity
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 06:07 PM
Feb 2014

Heard so much about his talent,

davekriss

(4,628 posts)
108. I know most won't agree with me...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 07:44 PM
Feb 2014

But I think that was his best performance.

I first saw him in a 1996 film, Hard Eight. He's only in screen for 5-10 minutes, taunting Philip Baker Hall over a craps table, but he absolutely won me over with that performance. Mr. Hall is also terrific in that movie, as is John C. Reilly and Samuel Jackson. I highly recommend it.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
105. Hoffman's films represent a really broad range
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 07:17 PM
Feb 2014

It's not like the poster said "horror movies" or "westerns."

Look at the range, just in this list:

Scent of a Woman -- Coming of Age/Dramedy
The Talented Mr. Ripley -- Suspense/Thriller
The Big Lebowski -- Quirky Cult Comedy
Mission Impossible 3 -- Blockbuster Action
Capote -- Biography
Moneyball -- Sports Flick
The Master -- Indie Drama

You just eliminated some heavy hitting genres. What the heck IS your cup of tea?

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
110. I don't do many movies, period.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 08:32 PM
Feb 2014

Some sci-fi / fantasy, on occasion, on cable. There hasn't been a movie that I 'have to see' so badly to make me hit a theater in 15 or so years. I think the last time I was in a theater was for the first Lord of the Rings movie, and that was a work sponsored event.

I'll read damned near any genre, but I don't spend much money on someone else's interpretation when I can do much better in my head.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
115. Well not all cinema is derived from a literary work
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:10 PM
Feb 2014

and even if so, why stop at the cinema? Why read someone else's written interpretation of a story, when you can do much better in your head?

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
118. All the decent films I've seen are (based on a literary work.)
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:21 PM
Feb 2014

As to your last sentence.. don't strain yourself, that's quite a stretch.

The special effects, dramatic scores, and acting in my mind are far beyond what anyone has ever put to film. My imagination isn't limited as to budget, length, or casting.

dhill926

(16,358 posts)
31. first I remember seeing him...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:01 PM
Feb 2014

was in Twister. Played a somewhat goofy character. But you could see the talent that would later be evident in the roles you mentioned. Damn!

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
71. yeah, he was a highlight in that movie for sure
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:42 PM
Feb 2014

He was a great actor, without doubt. He did great work.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
126. Yes, great in that and
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:36 AM
Feb 2014

just about everything I ever saw him in..He always stood out, and frankly, this shit is really pissing me off.

It may seem a strange reaction, but I loved this guy, loved his work..He was a national treasure, IMO,

and as a Boomer, I've been seeing this continued tragic WASTE go on and on and on and on...

longship

(40,416 posts)
38. Charlie Wilson's War!!
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:22 PM
Feb 2014

He was amazing in that. As a loony, but brilliant CIA agent.

Based on true story. With Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, and Ned Beatty.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
125. That was an excellent film and he did Gus brilliantly.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:27 AM
Feb 2014

He was destined to be a giant...

Artists! What can you do?

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
53. Twister, where he played a wild-eyed storm chaser..Loved him in that & virtually everything he did
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:01 PM
Feb 2014

and I'm actually angry that he did this to himself, however unwittingly.

He was at the top of his game and he will be greatly missed.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
60. I haven't seen that, but think it's in my Netflix queue.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:17 PM
Feb 2014

I understand about the anger -- he had young children. I guess you never know what sort of demons a person is dealing with.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
123. it's very good, both for his performance and it's realistic, harrowing depiction of tornadoes.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:09 AM
Feb 2014

It's the first time I took notice of him, but definitely not the last.

I'm glad someone understands the anger. His family, of course, are hardest hit, but I'd bet I'm not alone,
especially among his fans. I did, of course, remind myself of the truism you've stated about no one knowing
the inner demons others battle.

Something else I learned mitigates it too, and that's that he was addicted at a young age and then kicked it in his
twenties and stayed CLEAN for at least twenty years before starting again. That shows that he did have discipline
and some respect for himself and his talent. I'm hoping we'll find out what may have triggered his relapse -- that
would help too.

Oh well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings with me, SMC..We've lost another great one, damn it,
and we will miss him.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
49. Magnolia.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:50 PM
Feb 2014

which is an awesome and dark and strange weird movie but a lot of people just hate it. I loved it.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
75. He was in the Hunger Games as well.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:48 PM
Feb 2014

Damn fine actor. Can't remember being disappointed with any of his roles.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
91. Yes, he was a superb actor
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 05:56 PM
Feb 2014

I was startled to learn of death. I had no idea he was a heroin addict. I'm going to miss his great talent.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
55. Someone always has to jump in with a "Who?" because they are just too
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:12 PM
Feb 2014

above it all to recognize any name from popular culture.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
63. It's very insensitive...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:29 PM
Feb 2014

particularly when the news is of death.

I'll admit I've done it a couple of times with regard to politics, then realized it was a total dick thing to do. So I stopped.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
66. If I don't recognize the name, I generally don't click on the thread.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:34 PM
Feb 2014

It's very odd how people do that.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
81. I was just thinking the same thing...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 05:06 PM
Feb 2014

Its like those people who go on a thread to say "I couldn't care less about this topic". Why in dog's name would you go out of your way to comment then? I really don't get people like that...makes me ever so slightly nuts.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
77. A sublimely talented Oscar winner who relied on his HUGE talent (Moneyball, Hunger Games)
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:51 PM
Feb 2014

to turn out some fantastic performances that always pushed the edges and never, ever were predictable. He was honestly a great talent, something of a younger and even more intense John Malkovich, and this is just such a shitty loss. He's been excellent in every film he's been in, and the list includes just about every great film of the past two and a half decades, from Scent of a Woman (one of his very first films, in which he stole scenes with his outstanding character-acting from the hyperventilating Al Pacino), the cult favorite The Big Lebowski, his career-making turn as music-journalist-icon Lester Bangs in Almost Famous...on and on.

His filmography is frankly dazzling -- there are too many to list from imdb but here is a selection. If you don't know him you missed out on one of the few truly great actors of the past twenty years. He was a rare type in Hollywood -- a fabulously talented, REAL actor, who did not use looks or celebrity to get roles, who avoided fame and all of its obnoxious trappings to live a very quiet life. His death, and what must have been a terrible addiction, are tragedies. Truly.

The Hunger Games franchise
The Master (he portrayed the L. Ron Hubbard character) 2012
Moneyball (2011)
The Ides of March (2011)
Pirate Radio (2009)
Doubt (2008) -- one of his many outstanding performances.
Charlie Wilson's War (2007)
Mission Impossible III (2006)
Capote (2005) he won the academy award for this film
Cold Mountain (2003)
25th Hour (2002)
Almost Famous (2000)
State and Main (2000)
The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999) he is the best part of the film
Magnolia (1999)
The Big Lebowski (1998)
Boogie Nights (1997)
When a Man loves a Woman (1994)
Scent of a Woman (1993)












SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
92. I forgot about "Doubt."
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 05:57 PM
Feb 2014

Definitely one of those performances that make you sit up and take notice. I'd give mixed reviews to "The Savages" with Laura Linney, but damn, he did a good job with the character he played.

Response to bigdarryl (Reply #1)

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
114. Actually, I've never seen any of those either,
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 08:55 PM
Feb 2014

but have seen Capote (and a couple of others he did that are not in your list, none of which have stuff blowing up.) I think I'll put Capote up on my netflix queue to see it again

(Nice SCTV reference by the way. "He blowed up real good!&quot

However, I would also ask "WHO ?" of the sub-thread poster, because, despite a post-count of over 10k, I don't recognize the username at all.

Response to kentauros (Reply #114)

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
9. Wow. Stunned
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:41 PM
Feb 2014

He was a superb actor who, if you saw him, you'd know because of how many support roles he does in big movies. Never mind his leading roles in smaller budget movies (that often win awards).

Lost a good one today. RIP.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
59. Awful. He was an awesome actor, and I believe he had two kids as well.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:16 PM
Feb 2014

He was by far one of the best actors of his generation (or any really) -- an Osacr winner and just a great talent. And now his kids will not have their father. Ugh.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
11. For those who don't recognize his name, you may recognize his face
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:42 PM
Feb 2014



He's done a lot of work but was not usually the lead - with the exception of Capote:
"In 2005, Hoffman won widespread acclaim for his portrayal of writer Truman Capote in the film Capote. His performance received numerous high-profile accolades and awards, including the Academy Award for Best Actor, the Golden Globe Award for Best Actor - Motion Picture Drama, the Screen Actors Guild Award for Best Actor – Motion Picture, and the BAFTA Award for Best Actor in a Leading Role. In addition, he was also awarded Best Actor by at least ten film critic associations, including the National Board of Review, Toronto Film Critics, and Los Angeles Film Critics."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Seymour_Hoffman

intheflow

(28,504 posts)
34. The third Hunger Games book is filmed as two movies.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:11 PM
Feb 2014

Still filming the last one, due out in 11/2015. Given post-production schedules, I'm hoping they had filmed most of his stuff. He was found in NYC and the movie's being filmed in Georgia, so his part may have wrapped.

GoCubsGo

(32,094 posts)
27. Bummer.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:57 PM
Feb 2014

Meanwhile, Dickhead Cheney lives with another's heart beating in his chest. Talk about "fucked up"...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
26. oh grits this is terrible.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:57 PM
Feb 2014

He was an artist of great heart and soul. I am sincerely shocked by this. The world changes. Fuck.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
44. Very sad. He was truly talented.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:30 PM
Feb 2014

And not at all a puffed-up celebrity like so many others. And he had young children. Condolences to his family...

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
50. Exactly
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:51 PM
Feb 2014

When you saw him on screen, he *was* the character he was playing, not Philip Seymour Hoffman. So many actors are just themselves in any role, not PSH.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
89. I didn't know that about the public schools...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 05:35 PM
Feb 2014

good for them. I have to shake my head at the no-talents out there (Kardashians!) acting as if they are royalty. I've seen pics of Mr. Hoffman pushing strollers, biking with his son, trick-or-treating... he looked like any "normal" Dad. A normal Dad who just happened to be incredibly skilled at his craft. And I think like that with James Gandolfini, he was really respected by his peers. And by his fans. What a waste.

2naSalit

(86,794 posts)
58. How sad!
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:14 PM
Feb 2014

I wonder if he was privately involved in something that led to this. I wonder if he really ODed. He had a lot going on and this sounds kind of suspect.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
64. He struggled with addiction...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:32 PM
Feb 2014

...like so many creative people who've gone before him.

There's been a recent epidemic of overdose deaths from fentanyl laced heroin (China White). He was found with the needle still in his arm. I don't doubt how he died, I just hate to think he may have been a victim of this latest deadly drug cocktail.

TYY

2naSalit

(86,794 posts)
68. Good Grief!
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:40 PM
Feb 2014

I didn't know that about him, don't follow the personal lives of most famed persons... unless personally acquainted. I have heard about the China White stuff (though not by name). How sad. Never had an inclination to use needles, they scare me, I've known too many in my past who had that problem though.

Thanks for the info. Geeze.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
72. Heroine addiction..wow, tragic. His presence on the screen was intense..he was able to
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:42 PM
Feb 2014

draw you right into his characters.

This is awful, such a waste.

RIP

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
73. RIP - (darn)
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:45 PM
Feb 2014

one of my favorites - he brought Truman Capote to life

loved him in The Late Quartet

sad . . .

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
79. Idk, NuclearDem, but you are right, and a lot of evil jackasses live long, pampered lives
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:56 PM
Feb 2014

while young, brilliant artists get taken down by addiction or more traditional forms of disease every single day. I am not naming names with the old evil jackasses but you can imagine.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
84. Sometimes a creative mind wanders into dark places where no one can survive.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 05:12 PM
Feb 2014

At least, that's what I think.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
86. Heath Ledger
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 05:16 PM
Feb 2014

While he was incredible as the Joker in the Dark Knight, preparing for the role nearly drove him to the brink of insanity. Some times when actors really get into their characters like that it drives them to do crazy things that they normally wouldn't do.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
76. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead - with Ethan Hawke and Marisa Tomei
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:48 PM
Feb 2014

absolutely terrific movie -

damn . . . this is sad

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
83. Watch "Mary and Max" if you haven't already...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 05:08 PM
Feb 2014

Hoffman does the voice of Max; its brilliant (I have a weak spot for claymation anything...)



 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
101. My connevtion is he played in the. movie doubt that was filmed in my church.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 06:33 PM
Feb 2014

St Luke in the Fields Manhattan.

catbyte

(34,454 posts)
103. Oh, no. He was one of my favorite actors. Didn't he go to rehab recently?
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 07:08 PM
Feb 2014

What a fucking waste. Condolences to his family.

Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
119. I hate when this happens. I hate when extraordinarily talented artists are lost to the rest of us
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 10:00 PM
Feb 2014

through drug overdoses or alcoholism.

Think about how many brilliant lights in their respective fields of endeavor blink out early because something in their souls drives them to self-destruction.

It's like they burn too brightly to last...

I'm so sorry to hear this. May his journey be gentle.

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