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steve2470

(37,457 posts) Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:40 PM Mar 2012

Lawyer: Sgt. Bales can't remember massacre night

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57400295/lawyer-sgt-bales-cant-remember-massacre-night/

(CBS News) LEAVENWORTH, Kansas -- The defense of accused murderer Sgt. Robert Bales began Monday when he spent more than seven hours with three of his lawyers, including defense attorney John Henry Browne.

At their meeting, Bales did not confess to the crime.

"He has no memory of ... he has an early memory of that evening and he has a later memory of that, but he doesn't have memory of the evening in between.," Browne said.

Witnesses describe Bales as going deliberately from room to room in several houses while killing people, not in some kind of berserk attack. Browne said that despite the descriptions of his apparently deliberate actions, Bales remembers none of what happened.

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Lawyer: Sgt. Bales can't remember massacre night (Original Post) steve2470 Mar 2012 OP

Setting up an insanity defense, hmmm. n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #1

Na, that is what happens when you get drunk. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #8

If his blackout was because he was drunk then arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #11

Then how does he go back and turns himself in to the authorities? This time I don't think it is southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #14

If he was banking on using a temporary arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #15

Totally agree with you on this. I also think he was that way before the military after all he southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #16

Both situations make me absolutely sick. My arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #17

I sure agree with you. The more you learn the more he seems evil. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #18

might as well try it quinnox Mar 2012 #2

Maybe the reports of him being drunk are true. Swede Mar 2012 #3

Strange. He returned to camp and told officers what he had done. How could he have done that if appleannie1 Mar 2012 #4

Simple. He remembered then, he doesn't now. If he takes the right drugs, he never will again. saras Mar 2012 #7

OK,I'm going to get all medical. I wonder where his TBI was. w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #5

Throw everything up against the wall TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2012 #9

Probably can't remember ripping people off, either we can do it Mar 2012 #10

They beat Zimmerman to it. lpbk2713 Mar 2012 #12

The families of the slain civilians remember. AtomicKitten Mar 2012 #13

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)

1. Setting up an insanity defense, hmmm. n/t

Reply to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:42 PM

Mar 2012

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)

8. Na, that is what happens when you get drunk.

Reply to arthritisR_US (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:50 PM

Mar 2012

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)

11. If his blackout was because he was drunk then

Reply to southernyankeebelle (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:41 PM

Mar 2012

you're dead on and his insanity defense is out the window.

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)

14. Then how does he go back and turns himself in to the authorities? This time I don't think it is

Reply to arthritisR_US (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:24 AM

Mar 2012

an excuse. He murder innocent people. I was just watching GMA and evidently he swindled an elderly couple over $800,000 dollars. The couple sued him but he enlisted before they could get him.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)

15. If he was banking on using a temporary

Reply to southernyankeebelle (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:01 AM

Mar 2012

insanity defense, everything you have cited would go against such a defense strategy. His pattern of behaviour is to avoid responsibility for his actions, which is no defense at all. I question if he even or has ever had remorse towards his victims.

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)

16. Totally agree with you on this. I also think he was that way before the military after all he

Reply to arthritisR_US (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:05 PM

Mar 2012

left that elderly couple broke and living on social security and they lost their home.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)

17. Both situations make me absolutely sick. My

Reply to southernyankeebelle (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:17 PM

Mar 2012

heart breaks for the families in Afganistan and for the elderly couple that he swindled. The more I learn about this man the more convinced I am that he is a sociopath.

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)

18. I sure agree with you. The more you learn the more he seems evil.

Reply to arthritisR_US (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:13 PM

Mar 2012

quinnox

(20,600 posts)

2. might as well try it

Reply to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:42 PM

Mar 2012

If it works maybe future mass killers can use it. "No sir, I don't remember a thing from that night when I shot all those people" "Very well then, not guilty by reason of insanity"

Swede

(33,244 posts)

3. Maybe the reports of him being drunk are true.

Reply to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:44 PM

Mar 2012

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)

4. Strange. He returned to camp and told officers what he had done. How could he have done that if

Reply to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:45 PM

Mar 2012

he did not remember doing anything?

saras

(6,670 posts)

7. Simple. He remembered then, he doesn't now. If he takes the right drugs, he never will again.

Reply to appleannie1 (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:49 PM

Mar 2012

w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)

5. OK,I'm going to get all medical. I wonder where his TBI was.

Reply to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:47 PM

Mar 2012

I am not justifying murder.

I had a left temporal lobe lesion. It lead to atypical partial seizures which resulted in some very bizarre behavior.
They see a lot of atypical seizures in TBI vets.

http://www.rehab.research.va.gov/jour/09/46/6/pdf/chen.pdf