I can show you the ropes LOL

As in, 'You are not very good at this at all...' Or you can use the contraction as in my example.

I had trouble with whom and who the other day so just used a different word LOL

I hate doing it, but it happens.

'I had trouble with whom and who the other day so just used a different word LOL'

I do that too! More than I would like to admit!

Especially how it is used as offensive shorthand.

She's a human rights activist in France.

Maybe she'll be a good addition here -- maybe she'll play a few more cards and exit. Time will tell.

now. Really - you think E! and People are the only media who put celebrity power couples names together? Just because RWers made it offensive doesn't mean all of our knees need to start jerking uncontrollably. Especially after a new poster has been vouched for by a loooooooonnnnnggggtiiiiiime poster.

We (or some of us) have gotten a bit over-sensitized. There's good reason for that, but it's not always warranted.

"Your" should be you're or you are.


Not to mention there is nothing wrong with this - and it could be discussed. The Nixon list was more significant, but the inclusion - near the top of the Clinton list - was also unjustified. He owed them NOTHING. It is true they supported him - when he was the Presidential nominee - just as Kerry twice supported Clinton.

It is also clear that Kerry forgave both of them.

I presume you brought that wonderfully enlightening word here on your own. The article itself is a hit-piece about a hit-piece of a book.

What board do you think you're posting at?

Looks a little safer than Beeing.

that looks frightening!

They could be raccoons.

LOL.

On the bright side, I got my last rabies shot today! Yay!

I've had five of the damn things, not including the nightmare in ER where they shot the wound up.

So cute.

the facts

and relaxed time usually spent in the company of friends and often achieved by taking drugs such as weed and cannabis popular amongst british teenagers when beeing people tend to act uncharacteristically and often find themselves regretting their actions the next morning "what you doing tonight?" "Just beeing"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beeing

Just say'n

SO PLEASE

Stop bullying me EVERY TIME I make a small spelling mistake!

Thank you!

Thanks.

is an expression used here in France to designate Bill and Hillary couple. Period.

It reeks of right wing insults.

You appear to be a native speaker of English.

I just read a lot of english, and learned as well. Im not native at all.

when she says she didn't understand the RW slang.

When I suggested editing the title of the OP, it got edited. That's a good thing.

I don't know this poster at all.

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Your poor English is the least offensive thing about what you're trying to do.

to create.

She's a human rights activist in France.

and it was apparent to attentive folks that Clintons had no desire for Bush to lose in 2004. You didn't think it odd that Bill's book came out in June 2004 and that he used his high profile interviews on that summer book tour to vigorously defend Bush's military decisions and leadership on Iraq?

I would expect this kind of shit-stirring from a freeper troll.

But not from someone as legit as you say s/he is.

even after a longtime DUer who has known her for a few years speaks out on her behalf.

...then it's even weirder that she's stirring the shit than if some freeper troll was doing it.

that article was discussing.

There was good reason that Kerry and Kennedy moved early to support Obama. If you paid attention you expected it and was nowhere near surprised.

...and we could be here all day.

So let's just say "hors d'oeuvres" and be done with it.

whether you believe it or not.

of its meaning.

What she didn't know was the baggage the name carries because it was used - in this country - mostly by those on the right.

I suspect the other problem was that this story is one that many people - including me - were uncomfortable with the articles speaking of a Clinton "enemies list". I suspect that most of us older people hear "enemies list" and think of Nixon. Yet the phrase was used in many many mainstream articles. Unless I missed it, I did not see anyone question the premises or implications of the article - which really SHOULD have been done.

1) I suspect this was a list put together by some dispirited high level campaigners who were winding down a dream campaign that they had waited years for and never thought they would lose. In their anger and disappointment, they looked to blame others. This list should NEVER have seen the light of day.

2) This was NOT a list that we know that HRC or WJC even knew about.

3) People on Nixon's list were retaliated against in many ways - in Kerry's case, he was followed by the FBI and smeared when he first ran for Congress. This in spite of the fact that he broke no laws, was a decorated vet and he did an exceptional job when he was asked to speak before the SFRC. No one has accused the Clintons of anything like this. ( I seriously doubt that the then former SoS Kerry spends a second worrying that the Clinton will do anything against him or Teresa. The same with the rest of the list.

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they use it because of the RW's use of it, even though it has been an acceptable reference overseas for years as a non-malicious term?

I have been flying the Gadsden Flag since the 80s and the corporate takeover of this nation's governance, should I now scorn the Gadsden flag because the RW so ignorantly blasphemes it? Should I stop using the word Democrat because of the way Joe McCarthy used it?

I'm kind of surprised......You don't usually go so overboard about things like this, Steve.

We aren't all cruel and nasty.

Welcome to DU.

Maybe you clicked the wrong link, and you're not where you think you are.

I juste used the term " Billary" as a hometown reflex, OK. Maybe you felt it as poor English, and I'm sorry. Anyway poeple jumped at it within minutes, I it gives a idea of a sometimes quite incivilized moods that can come on this forum.
Sorry for having spoke out

I recommend that you do exactly that.

You see, the thing is that Hillary Clinton is quite likely to become our next President here in the US. We won't call her "Billary."

You probably shouldn't, either.

SORRY IF I OFFENDED THE ROYAL CLINTON COUPLE

So you will understand more clearly, I will explain something. The United States of America does not have royalty. Here, we elect our leaders. I believe leaders are also elected in France.

The Clintons are not royalty. You see, you have edited your post, but then have insulted us again.

Perhaps you should stop doing that.

sorry for the offence, I apologies.... but some pople here jumps at me in a nasty ways, and I defendes myself, yes I was wrong, but criticise the Clintons dosn't meant I wanted to insult all Dems and Americans.

ITS DEMOCRACY HERE SO I CANS SAY I DONT LIKE SOME POLITICIANS RIGHT?

Besides, the terms I used before was printed in NUMEROUS newspapes, both europeans and american ( including Newsweek) so ......

Does this look like democracy?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

"therefore, advocating in favor of Republican nominees or in favor of third-party spoiler candidates that could split the vote and throw an election to our conservative opponents is never permitted on Democratic Underground. But that does not mean that DU members are required to always be completely supportive of Democrats."

I was clearly talking about your democracy comment. CLEARLY.

with the notion of democracy you and I carry ourselves. Democracy include the right to have a minority opinion, the right to be an non- American here ant to come debate with all of you, and also the right to express sometime negative comments about some politician. I never liked Hillary and that my right, and I will never attack the poeple who support her for the next Election. Thats their basic right too.

I don't think you are being serious.

For someone with under a hundred posts, you seem EXTREMELY excited about your ability to criticize dems here. Even to the point you use !!!.

We don't need bu$h's 3rd term, DINO's, 3rd Way, etc.

BTY, I remember "Billary" as being use here on DU in the past, with not much of a problem.
The OP of from a French national, cut him some slack already. Got a problem? Respond to the verbiage in the OP and don't attack the messenger.

Really. I dislike the use of "Billary." I dislike it in the same way I dislike the use of "Obummer" or "Obomber." When I see it, I will say that I dislike it. That's something I can do, and something I will do, your protest notwithstanding.

You're welcome, of course, to tell me what I should and should not write. I'll decide what to do, though, for myself, thanks.

I suggested that the OP edit his/her post title. The OP did that.

A thick skin is good to have around here. Haven't seen anyone use the term Billary for years! You must have pulled that one out of deep memory!

I admit I felt hurt for seconds, itgives an idea of intolerances in debates from some members, yes. Its sad.

Trolling through our site, I see.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

The whole post was an unnecessary dredging up of old conflicts. Not helpful. You are either a troll deliberately stirring up antagonism on this already sensitive blog population or you know nothing really about the subtleties of politics in the Democratic party.

but blacklisting and all those things disgusts me, so I just wanted to talk about those allegations. First I read that in French news. Im note here to create conflict, I followed many debates here, yes sometimes I didn't respond cause I didn't know what to say...


And sorry again to be an....

IGNORANT FOREIGNER PERSON RIGHT????

That's you thougts, really?

I feel really sorry for some members.

And I know enough as beeing a since 2004 election observer of majors US issues, thats politics are partially ruled by smearing at others and villify them.

But I see, in a very sad way, that those practices affect no only high degrees of politic circles, but even grassroots debates online.

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And, for the record, I haven't commented on that article, but, anyone with an ounce of sense knew damn well what was going on from 2003-2006. Of course, it would have to be coupled with INTEGRITY.

"Hillary Clinton’s staffers made a list of Democratic members.... Here are some of the 7s—those whose support of Barack Obama was particularly galling to the Clinton team."

Two long time staffers make lists. I'd bet every campaign had lists in fact isn't that what politics is really all about lists and favors, quid-pro-quo's. The POTUS staffers pull out lists when there is a close vote, who to lean on who to quash. Go to any small town in anywhere USA and you will find the same thing. I've been involved in politics since I was 12yrs old and we would read off the voter enrollments lists to target who to call or to press to come out to vote. Lists were made to to make sure all chits were dully noted. I've seen people wheeled out in wheel chairs, with O2 to cast a vote. Any pet project a politician has will have these kind of lists.

It was also fond, after Sarkozy's presidency, that his team had made ennemy's listing, most of the names were those of indepedant journalists, and grassroots social organisations too.

The 2008 primary season created many hurt feelings among the Obama and Hillary camps. Both of them had very enthusiastic supporters and the battle was very close until the end.

As the previous poster noted, it's very common for political campaigns to have lists of supporters and detractors. It would be a rare campaign that didn't have such a list. After the fray is over, these lists can change very fast and are very fluid. An ally can become an opponent and an "enemy" can become an ally.

What I'm trying to say is that a list drafted by campaign staffers in 2008 is probably no longer valid in 2014.

maybe it's the reason the information comes out only now? I didn't knew black listing was so common out ouf there in USA.
Due to my "french" feelings, where campaingns, comparint to yours, seems a little bit more loyal ( even if the deterioration increses election after election), and I first reacted as thinking it was a digustings act. Meanwhile, if others primaries candidates did the same things, its comes out as an equally weapon's battle.

There's really nothing to see here. These lists are quite common.

More interesting, what's going on with Hollande and his women problems?

but here, theres no sort of scandal, he will stay at the head of state anyway. I know in USA it would be radically different. Meanwhile, his former compagnon has left him, and now Hollande is officially single.

I have family in France, they liked Segolene Royal and thought that she would have been a good president. They are hoping that she runs again some time in the future.

A French mouse with a cheese bankie???? That's so adorable.

Merci beaucoup, mon cher.

Au revoir, mom ami.

Do you know Beldar?

Why? Maybe have I to research him a little?

Maybe acceptable in France, but not in 'Merica!

Im trying to research him now, cannot find anything.

Conehead movie?

I never heard about it before today, but that films sounds really strange.

I think you're kidding at me....

Be ressaured, I am not an Alien, lol

I really can't explain. And why this question?

You think the coneheads movie looks interesting.

And what on hell is the problem of beeing a non-American, at least?

Trust me, the Coneheads movie is not good.

Edit to add:

I have nothing against residents of other countries. In fact, I have been to France at least six times (I would have to pull out my old cruise books to get the exact count).

A TV show we have called Saturday Night Live had a comedy series called "The Coneheads".

Beldar was the father in the Conehead family, the coneheads were aliens from another planet, but they would say "We're from France" as part of their effort to not be identified as aliens.

I see now! I many times heard about this show, but never watched it, except clips on YT. And I never knew this skit.

I hope you can read French.

There is nothing in this world that would make me vote for Hillary Clinton. Nothing.

Edited to add: Sorry people upthread are giving you such a hard time. It takes awhile for Americans to get used to this site, I can't imagine how difficult it would be for a non-native-English speaker. I'll certainly give you the benefit of the doubt and say, "Welcome to DU." Ignore the poopie responses.

I bet you joked!

I'm old enough to remember Nixon and I HATED him. H.A.T.E.D. He caused another 20,000 American service personnel to die by stopping the peace accords in 1968 and prolonging the Viet Nam war another 4 years purely for political reasons. Both him and Kissinger should have been brought up on war crimes.

Good.