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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:13 AM Feb 2014

SNAP funding from Welfare reform through the stimulus.

Welfare reform caused funding to drop by nearly 30 percent (from 1996 through 2001).

In 2009, the stimulus, which increased funding and restored the program to a level equivalent to the pre-1993 trend.

Granted that participation went from 30 million to 46 million from 2008 to now. The stimulus increased the allocation and the benefits.



http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/snapsummary.htm

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SNAP funding from Welfare reform through the stimulus. (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2014 OP
Disabled SamKnause Feb 2014 #1
Did something ProSense Feb 2014 #2
Nothing else happened. SamKnause Feb 2014 #3
I still don't understand why they were going down before the stimulus expiration in November? ProSense Feb 2014 #4
I gave up trying to figure it out. SamKnause Feb 2014 #5
I looked it up and there shouldn't have been a change between April 2009 and October 2013. There okaawhatever Feb 2014 #11
so the columns are hfojvt Feb 2014 #6
Yes, and ProSense Feb 2014 #7
not as significant as the extra participants did hfojvt Feb 2014 #8
Huh? ProSense Feb 2014 #9
Kick! n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #10

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
1. Disabled
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:26 AM
Feb 2014

I live on Social Security Disability Insurance.

My TOTAL monthly income is $1060.00.

I receive $99.00 per month in Food Stamps.

I applied on November 15, 2012.

At that time I received $1048.00 per month in Social Security Disability Insurance.

At that time I qualified for $169.00 per month.

$169.00
- $99.00
=$70.00

A $70.00 per month cut in Food Stamps.

Can anyone live on $99.00 per month food budget ???

Should anyone have too ????

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Did something
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:31 AM
Feb 2014
I live on Social Security Disability Insurance.

My TOTAL monthly income is $1060.00.

I receive $99.00 per month in Food Stamps.

I applied on November 15, 2012.

At that time I received $1048.00 per month in Social Security Disability Insurance.

At that time I qualified for $169.00 per month.

$169.00
- $99.00
=$70.00

A $70.00 per month cut in Food Stamps.

Can anyone live on $99.00 per month food budget ???

Should anyone have too ????

...else happen? The cuts shouldn't be that deep.



http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3899

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3899

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
3. Nothing else happened.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:40 AM
Feb 2014

These are the cuts to my Food Stamps in a 16 month period:

$169.00
$140.00
$109.00
$103.00
$ 99.00

I am getting to the point where they can take their food stamps and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

Living in poverty, through no fault of my own, is sucking the life's blood out of me.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. I still don't understand why they were going down before the stimulus expiration in November?
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:43 AM
Feb 2014

Prior to November, the increased level of the stimulus was still in place.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
11. I looked it up and there shouldn't have been a change between April 2009 and October 2013. There
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 06:37 PM
Feb 2014

may have been a difference in the way someone calculated your costs, or other qualifying criteria. I also wonder if you state was doing something on top of the federal program that was cut off. If you haven't contacted your aid worker I would and ask specifically what the changes were prior to the end of the stimulus in Oct. 2013. You deserve to know, especially if there was an error.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=2226

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
6. so the columns are
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 12:05 PM
Feb 2014

1. number of participants
2. average benefit per participant
3. total cost of benefits
4. other costs (administrative, etc.)
5. grand total

but funding did not drop because of welfare reform.

The number of participants dropped in the late 1990s, because of the record low unemployment rate.

That may also explain the average benefit per person. Because the benefit amount is not just a function of funding, it is a function of income.

And year - labor force participation - unemployment

1995 - 66.6 - 5.6
1996 - 66.8 - 5.4
1997 - 67.1 - 4.9
1998 - 67.1 - 4.5
1999 - 67.1 - 4.2
2000 - 67.1 - 4.0
2001 - 66.8 - 4.7

2007 - 66.0 - 4.6
2008 - 66.0 - 5.8
2009 - 65.4 - 9.3
2010 - 64.7 - 9.6
2011 - 64.1 - 8.9
2012 - 63.7 - 8.1
2013 - 63.2 - 7.4

with a potential labor force of 245 million another 3% participating in the labor force means 7 million more workers. Even with the same labor force, the difference between 4% unemployment and 9% is another 7.8 million.

So that's almost 15 million non-workers in 2011 compared to 2000.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. Yes, and
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 12:08 PM
Feb 2014

"So that's almost 15 million non-workers in 2011 compared to 2000."

...from the OP: Granted that participation went from 30 million to 46 million from 2008 to now.

The stimulus still increased the allocation and the benefits significantly.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
8. not as significant as the extra participants did
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 12:52 PM
Feb 2014

if only the amount of benefits was increased, then total expenses would be $51 billion instead of $79

and the amount of benefits would have risen due to inflation anyway.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Huh?
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 01:26 PM
Feb 2014
not as significant as the extra participants did

if only the amount of benefits was increased, then total expenses would be $51 billion instead of $79

and the amount of benefits would have risen due to inflation anyway.

Yes, the increase was higher than $51 billion, and the stimulus increase is higher than the trend of increases due to inflation.

If the increases had remained at the level from 1992 to 1993, 3.43 percent, the program would be at about $50 million in 2013.

From 2001 to 2013, participation increased times 2.75. Funding for the program increase about times 4.4 during the same period.
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