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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAT&T wants to charge more for different types of internet use.
What if emails and web browsing were acceptable kinds of traffic but others, such as video downloading and file-sharing, resulted in subscribers being subjected to penalties? A new system developed at telecoms giant AT&T appears to envision just that kind of scenario.
The system is revealed in a patent filed by AT&T Mobility in September 2013 and published this month. Its stated aim is to stop customers from abusing a telecommunications system by consuming too much bandwidth."
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The user is provided an initial number of credits. As the user consumes the credits, the data being downloaded is checked to determine if it is permissible or non-permissible. Non-permissible data includes file-sharing files and movie downloads if user subscription does not permit such activity, the patent application reads.
If the data is permissible, the user is provided another allotment of credits equal to the initial allotment. If the data is non-permissible, the user is provided an allotment of credits less than the initial allotment, it continues.
Various restriction policies also can be applied, such as levying additional fees and/or terminating the users access to the channel.
Also, incentives can be provided to entice the user [to] curb the misuse,
http://torrentfreak.com/att-develops-credits-system-to-limit-file-sharing-bandwidth-140129/
So, streaming from Hulu, Netflix or Amazon..even Youtube.....will cost more? Is that what I am reading?
AT&T seems to be saying "consuming too much bandwidth." is a bad thing, but apparently it is ok as long as you pay extra for it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)for taking to many breaths while using "their" internet, using too much toilet paper when you go to the bathroom and a surcharge on laughing if you watch something funny on Youtube.
AT&T "wanting to charge you" should pretty much enter your mind the minute you hear "AT&T".
Wait, I think they just charged me $6 bucks because I mentioned them.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I charge $8000/hour for diagnostic services. $12000/hr if it is AT&T
steve2470
(37,457 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)but let's charge ahead with monetary advantage! Victory means money flowing in!
elleng
(130,973 posts)but looking over users' shoulders + 'penalizing' them, not. May be just the way they characterize it, and imo won't go over well this way. And then, there's the competition (if only!!!)
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)They are just inserting themselves between you and the Internet to make extra bucks. It doesn't cost them anything.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)msongs
(67,417 posts)llmart
(15,540 posts)not quite two years ago and have been sorry I ever did. I'm tired of their two - four dollars price increases every other month. It's up to $52 a month just for a freakin' home phone line. They also screwed up my phone service when I moved even though I called them a month ahead of time and gave them all the information.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Comcast is awful but AT&T made them look fantastic by comparison.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)He just wants your soul. AT&T wants your soul, and the soul of everyone else associated with you.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)So when I called up to ask where my bill was and what was my balance, they informed me that my bill was due the day before and there was a late fee. For each service. Which they wouldn't waive even though they'd sent my bill to an address I hadn't given them (my family's house on the other end of town- I'm still not sure how they decided to send my bill there rather than where I live and was getting service?)
So I owed $70 for my TV, phone and internet and $90 in late fees- $30 for each service. They absolutely would not waive this even though it was their screw up.
The Comcast installer was back at my house the following morning, and they wound up giving me a better deal than AT&T had to get me back as a customer.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)For DSL service that she had never had, and proceeded to send threatening letters in the name of someone that didn't live at my mom's address.
My Mom has cable access from the cable company, and ONLY AT&T service for her cell phone. Yet they were claiming she had DSL service under the name of a person in another county over?
She reported it to Jim Hood's office, and being the awesome Atty Gen he is, they went away. We have some bad politicians in the South, but our Democrats down here are top notch.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)now have Verizon and really regret signing that contract but there was little other choice. Verizon really hurts itself with really, really bad PR moves.
Sam
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)Access to high-speed internet connectivity is now a virtual necessity for all of us. It is the way students engage with one another, see their assignments, banks push statements to us, companies bill us, doctors share medical results, etc. It is not possible to live outside of the "connected world".
That said, I have no problem with ISPs charging for usage. It is no different than paying for water or electricity based on consumption.
The problem I have is with categorizing by type of consumption. If I have a water pipe coming into my home it is up to me how I use the pipe. I can use it to water my garden, wash my car, wash clothes or dishes, drink water, cook, shower, etc.
It is fairly clear that companies like ATT and Comcast who are also content providers would love to strangle out the likes of Netflix, Hulu, etc. who compete with them. Comcast and ATT continue to lose subscribers to their cable offerings because more and more people just stream TV, movies, etc.
They do not want to be marginalized and the way they plan to do it is by penalizing you if you get your entertainment content from anyone other than them.
Netflix has already warned there will be repercussions if anyone makes this move.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)Amazon, et al in favor of their own broadband cable service.
Seriously, they can go frack themselves!
RC
(25,592 posts)Internet providers are in reality common carriers and should be regulated as such.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)is a service. It just costs extra. Did you wash a load of denim? Jeans are also a service.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)htuttle
(23,738 posts)Not just the lines, the actual handset.
And if you were suspected of 'abusing' it somehow, Bell Corps would come in and take it all away, along with anything that looked like a computer. No trial or warrant or anything -- that was all spelled out in the phone contract. If you hooked it up to a phone line, they owned it.
Yup, I bet they miss those days.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)because of fears of a monopoly.
Then slowly, over the years, the telecoms got the laws eithr changed or fixed and now they are back to no competition.
Worse yet, they now have a vertical monopoly.
6 businesses/companies own 99% of the media..print, tv, and phone...
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Monopoly on media means a monopoly on thought, discussion and ideas.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)they bought the right amount of politicians from both parties.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Always and forever.
sendero
(28,552 posts)..... is truly a sleazeball company, but the sad fact is that if they start doing this stuff the other big guys are almost sure to follow.
Welcome to no net neutrality.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Scrutinize it closely, because you will see another name added.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)I was just looking it up to have something that would not be reliant on having high speed internet access (like a magicjack).
What do you mean by someone else getting added to my bill? I am confused.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)somehow added to her bill. For DSL. Which she never had. That's all I was pointing out.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)I've been wanting to search for something for more than several minutes, and Google doesn't seem to be working, just press search buttone and hurry up and wait. It used to work great on DSL from the same company.
frwrfpos
(517 posts)The goal is to restrict and reduce any communication not favorable to Capitalism and the global greed mongers. Dont be surprised to see progressive sites and any site that is deemed left wing at all slowed down to a crawl or inaccessable...its going to happen...mark my words