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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 06:08 PM Feb 2014

AT&T wants to charge more for different types of internet use.

".... what if a service provider started to dictate what types of data could be accessed each month on a particular package?
What if emails and web browsing were acceptable kinds of traffic but others, such as video downloading and file-sharing, resulted in subscribers being subjected to penalties? A new system developed at telecoms giant AT&T appears to envision just that kind of scenario.

The system is revealed in a patent filed by AT&T Mobility in September 2013 and published this month. Its stated aim is to stop customers from “abusing a telecommunications system” by consuming too much bandwidth."

Snip

“The user is provided an initial number of credits. As the user consumes the credits, the data being downloaded is checked to determine if it is permissible or non-permissible. Non-permissible data includes file-sharing files and movie downloads if user subscription does not permit such activity,” the patent application reads.

“If the data is permissible, the user is provided another allotment of credits equal to the initial allotment. If the data is non-permissible, the user is provided an allotment of credits less than the initial allotment,” it continues.
Various restriction policies also can be applied, such as levying additional fees and/or terminating the user’s access to the channel.
Also, incentives can be provided to entice the user [to] curb the misuse,”

http://torrentfreak.com/att-develops-credits-system-to-limit-file-sharing-bandwidth-140129/

So, streaming from Hulu, Netflix or Amazon..even Youtube.....will cost more? Is that what I am reading?
AT&T seems to be saying "consuming too much bandwidth." is a bad thing, but apparently it is ok as long as you pay extra for it.

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AT&T wants to charge more for different types of internet use. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 OP
AT&T would like to charge you Aerows Feb 2014 #1
AT&T called, they want their raccoon trap back steve2470 Feb 2014 #8
Okay Aerows Feb 2014 #13
reasonable rates to me :) nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #17
The court decision on NN didn't even have dried ink. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #29
No, it did not Aerows Feb 2014 #31
'Cost more' for certain services ok, imo, elleng Feb 2014 #2
What service? They don't own the Internet or what's on line. upaloopa Feb 2014 #6
+1000 Squared n/t Aerows Feb 2014 #14
internet should be a public utlitity, not a corporate screw job nt msongs Feb 2014 #3
+1 jsr Feb 2014 #10
I got AT&T for my home phone...... llmart Feb 2014 #4
I switched my TV and internet over to them. Switched back after one month. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #15
AT&T makes Lucifer look like a bargain in comparison Aerows Feb 2014 #16
AT&T sent my bill to the wrong address. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #20
They added another person's name onto my mother's bill Aerows Feb 2014 #21
I despise both of them and have dropped both Samantha Feb 2014 #36
ISPs should be a commodity subject to Public Service regulation...... Swede Atlanta Feb 2014 #5
this is an anti-competitive move as they are clearly looking to squeeze ROKU, Netflix JCMach1 Feb 2014 #7
Just don't wash the dog. That's extra. RC Feb 2014 #18
The ability to wash the dog with that water that comes to your home Aerows Feb 2014 #30
They are already selling you the pipe... now they want the pipe AND the faucet JCMach1 Feb 2014 #9
They miss the good old days, when Ma Bell owned everybody's telephone. htuttle Feb 2014 #11
Back in those days, Ma Bell was broken up dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #19
Which is 99% of our problem, dixiegrrrrl Aerows Feb 2014 #28
Like any smart company... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #34
Fuck AT&T. PeaceNikki Feb 2014 #12
AT&T.. sendero Feb 2014 #22
It's $25 for a freaking POTS line. Phucking plain old telephone service. madinmaryland Feb 2014 #23
Don't be surprised if someone else gets added to your bill Aerows Feb 2014 #24
Huh? I should have mentioned that I don't have a landline... madinmaryland Feb 2014 #25
My mom had somebody else, in a couple of counties over Aerows Feb 2014 #27
That's bizarre. I'm surprised the NSA didn't catch that! madinmaryland Feb 2014 #32
AT&T is abusing more than bandwidth. Faryn Balyncd Feb 2014 #26
Sounds almost as bad as satellite internet! B Calm Feb 2014 #33
I'm on UVERSE and today I think AT&T wants to charge more for Google access. Trillo Feb 2014 #35
Fuck ATandT and fuck Verizon for that matter..both evil greedy companies frwrfpos Feb 2014 #37
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
1. AT&T would like to charge you
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 06:10 PM
Feb 2014

for taking to many breaths while using "their" internet, using too much toilet paper when you go to the bathroom and a surcharge on laughing if you watch something funny on Youtube.

AT&T "wanting to charge you" should pretty much enter your mind the minute you hear "AT&T".

Wait, I think they just charged me $6 bucks because I mentioned them.

elleng

(130,973 posts)
2. 'Cost more' for certain services ok, imo,
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 06:11 PM
Feb 2014

but looking over users' shoulders + 'penalizing' them, not. May be just the way they characterize it, and imo won't go over well this way. And then, there's the competition (if only!!!)

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
6. What service? They don't own the Internet or what's on line.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:01 PM
Feb 2014

They are just inserting themselves between you and the Internet to make extra bucks. It doesn't cost them anything.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
4. I got AT&T for my home phone......
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 06:46 PM
Feb 2014

not quite two years ago and have been sorry I ever did. I'm tired of their two - four dollars price increases every other month. It's up to $52 a month just for a freakin' home phone line. They also screwed up my phone service when I moved even though I called them a month ahead of time and gave them all the information.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
15. I switched my TV and internet over to them. Switched back after one month.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:26 PM
Feb 2014

Comcast is awful but AT&T made them look fantastic by comparison.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. AT&T makes Lucifer look like a bargain in comparison
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:29 PM
Feb 2014

He just wants your soul. AT&T wants your soul, and the soul of everyone else associated with you.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
20. AT&T sent my bill to the wrong address.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:33 PM
Feb 2014

So when I called up to ask where my bill was and what was my balance, they informed me that my bill was due the day before and there was a late fee. For each service. Which they wouldn't waive even though they'd sent my bill to an address I hadn't given them (my family's house on the other end of town- I'm still not sure how they decided to send my bill there rather than where I live and was getting service?)

So I owed $70 for my TV, phone and internet and $90 in late fees- $30 for each service. They absolutely would not waive this even though it was their screw up.

The Comcast installer was back at my house the following morning, and they wound up giving me a better deal than AT&T had to get me back as a customer.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. They added another person's name onto my mother's bill
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:50 PM
Feb 2014

For DSL service that she had never had, and proceeded to send threatening letters in the name of someone that didn't live at my mom's address.

My Mom has cable access from the cable company, and ONLY AT&T service for her cell phone. Yet they were claiming she had DSL service under the name of a person in another county over?

She reported it to Jim Hood's office, and being the awesome Atty Gen he is, they went away. We have some bad politicians in the South, but our Democrats down here are top notch.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
36. I despise both of them and have dropped both
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 10:00 PM
Feb 2014

now have Verizon and really regret signing that contract but there was little other choice. Verizon really hurts itself with really, really bad PR moves.

Sam

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
5. ISPs should be a commodity subject to Public Service regulation......
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 06:48 PM
Feb 2014

Access to high-speed internet connectivity is now a virtual necessity for all of us. It is the way students engage with one another, see their assignments, banks push statements to us, companies bill us, doctors share medical results, etc. It is not possible to live outside of the "connected world".

That said, I have no problem with ISPs charging for usage. It is no different than paying for water or electricity based on consumption.

The problem I have is with categorizing by type of consumption. If I have a water pipe coming into my home it is up to me how I use the pipe. I can use it to water my garden, wash my car, wash clothes or dishes, drink water, cook, shower, etc.

It is fairly clear that companies like ATT and Comcast who are also content providers would love to strangle out the likes of Netflix, Hulu, etc. who compete with them. Comcast and ATT continue to lose subscribers to their cable offerings because more and more people just stream TV, movies, etc.

They do not want to be marginalized and the way they plan to do it is by penalizing you if you get your entertainment content from anyone other than them.

Netflix has already warned there will be repercussions if anyone makes this move.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
7. this is an anti-competitive move as they are clearly looking to squeeze ROKU, Netflix
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:07 PM
Feb 2014

Amazon, et al in favor of their own broadband cable service.

Seriously, they can go frack themselves!

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
18. Just don't wash the dog. That's extra.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:30 PM
Feb 2014
The problem I have is with categorizing by type of consumption. If I have a water pipe coming into my home it is up to me how I use the pipe. I can use it to water my garden, wash my car, wash clothes or dishes, drink water, cook, shower, etc.


Internet providers are in reality common carriers and should be regulated as such.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. The ability to wash the dog with that water that comes to your home
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 08:29 PM
Feb 2014

is a service. It just costs extra. Did you wash a load of denim? Jeans are also a service.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
11. They miss the good old days, when Ma Bell owned everybody's telephone.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:15 PM
Feb 2014

Not just the lines, the actual handset.

And if you were suspected of 'abusing' it somehow, Bell Corps would come in and take it all away, along with anything that looked like a computer. No trial or warrant or anything -- that was all spelled out in the phone contract. If you hooked it up to a phone line, they owned it.

Yup, I bet they miss those days.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. Back in those days, Ma Bell was broken up
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:32 PM
Feb 2014

because of fears of a monopoly.
Then slowly, over the years, the telecoms got the laws eithr changed or fixed and now they are back to no competition.
Worse yet, they now have a vertical monopoly.
6 businesses/companies own 99% of the media..print, tv, and phone...

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. Which is 99% of our problem, dixiegrrrrl
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 08:24 PM
Feb 2014

Monopoly on media means a monopoly on thought, discussion and ideas.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
22. AT&T..
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:54 PM
Feb 2014

..... is truly a sleazeball company, but the sad fact is that if they start doing this stuff the other big guys are almost sure to follow.

Welcome to no net neutrality.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. Don't be surprised if someone else gets added to your bill
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 08:06 PM
Feb 2014

Scrutinize it closely, because you will see another name added.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
25. Huh? I should have mentioned that I don't have a landline...
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 08:16 PM
Feb 2014

I was just looking it up to have something that would not be reliant on having high speed internet access (like a magicjack).

What do you mean by someone else getting added to my bill? I am confused.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
27. My mom had somebody else, in a couple of counties over
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 08:22 PM
Feb 2014

somehow added to her bill. For DSL. Which she never had. That's all I was pointing out.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
35. I'm on UVERSE and today I think AT&T wants to charge more for Google access.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 09:09 PM
Feb 2014

I've been wanting to search for something for more than several minutes, and Google doesn't seem to be working, just press search buttone and hurry up and wait. It used to work great on DSL from the same company.

 

frwrfpos

(517 posts)
37. Fuck ATandT and fuck Verizon for that matter..both evil greedy companies
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 10:23 PM
Feb 2014

The goal is to restrict and reduce any communication not favorable to Capitalism and the global greed mongers. Dont be surprised to see progressive sites and any site that is deemed left wing at all slowed down to a crawl or inaccessable...its going to happen...mark my words

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