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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 02:34 PM Feb 2014

Walmart’s Labor Practices Backfire: People are voting with their feet and with their wallets.

Walmart’s Labor Practices Backfire :

Wolfe Research, an equities research firm, downgraded Walmart in a new research report, citing understaffing, among other problems.

The firm lowered Walmart from a “market perform” rating to an “underperform” rating, pointing to three main causes: understaffing, an erosion of its price advantage against competitors, and costs associated with intensifying pressure from worker organizing.


http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/02/10/3271221/walmart-downgraded-understaffing/
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Walmart’s Labor Practices Backfire: People are voting with their feet and with their wallets. (Original Post) kpete Feb 2014 OP
can't buy what isn't on the shelf. lots of empty shelf space the local WM grocery store KG Feb 2014 #1
Exactly Aerows Feb 2014 #46
just kept turning the screws until they popped it rurallib Feb 2014 #2
Yay! People are finally waking up to the fact that WalMart is BAD for America. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #3
No, walmart isnt bad for america. cstanleytech Feb 2014 #9
Yes it is IMHO MynameisBlarney Feb 2014 #10
I, in no way, support ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #29
True except that when times are tough it's hard to make the choice to spend more. cui bono Feb 2014 #45
Yup. That's what they did. aquart Feb 2014 #54
Yes they did ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #56
They manage that because they are able to get the government to pay the employees cstanleytech Feb 2014 #30
Yes, they are... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #33
Clearly you failed to read my entire post as I specifically cstanleytech Feb 2014 #41
No, I read it... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #44
Thats because "walmart" itself isnt bad. The assholes running it and other companies in a similar cstanleytech Feb 2014 #47
That's kinda splittin' hairs now innit? MynameisBlarney Feb 2014 #49
Nope. Besides do you really think its a good idea to "blame" a company cstanleytech Feb 2014 #50
I don't believe a corporation is a person either MynameisBlarney Feb 2014 #52
What's the difference? MNBrewer Feb 2014 #43
Kick.... daleanime Feb 2014 #4
Sadly many people PumpkinAle Feb 2014 #5
They might actually be surprised to discover they can afford SheilaT Feb 2014 #11
Agreed. My local employee owned grocery store is much cheaper than Wal-Mart with 10x the selection riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #12
We do the same things PumpkinAle Feb 2014 #28
Walmart doesn't do well on meat pricing. My regional chain grocer almost always beats Walmart on Ed Suspicious Feb 2014 #26
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #36
when I look at onethatcares Feb 2014 #42
I have to say I enjoy the shopping experience at Target better anyway rbixby Feb 2014 #34
I agree get the red out Feb 2014 #55
BOYCOTT Wal*Mart! Support your local unions! Coyotl Feb 2014 #6
Walmart will crash and burn. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #7
Understaffing. PotatoChip Feb 2014 #8
I have only gone to Walmart in the past two years because Walmart gift cards were essentially part DesertDiamond Feb 2014 #13
uuuuuuuuuuuughhhh LittleGirl Feb 2014 #15
Just a Year Ago, a Walmart Exec Wined: "Where are our customers, and where is their money?" AndyTiedye Feb 2014 #14
Their stores are way too big to EC Feb 2014 #16
Walmart could better bolster their corporate image Enthusiast Feb 2014 #17
It would be a brilliant marketing campaign. greatlaurel Feb 2014 #38
Walk the Walk Folks and Walk On By bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #18
Well put Populist_Prole Feb 2014 #22
I haven't set foot in one in almost two decades. City Lights Feb 2014 #35
union negotiators at the table are only as good as the worth of their label. mopinko Feb 2014 #19
Have a heart libodem Feb 2014 #21
Yep VA_Jill Feb 2014 #20
I'm ashamed of my reaction... AAO Feb 2014 #23
You're a bad person ...bad bad bad! L0oniX Feb 2014 #39
seriously inferior merchandise oldandhappy Feb 2014 #24
Walmart isn't even that good of a deal Dopers_Greed Feb 2014 #25
Publix in Florida HockeyMom Feb 2014 #27
Publix does work out the same or cheaper overall usually I'd think independentpiney Feb 2014 #31
Florida Publix is racist ...tons of complaints about them. L0oniX Feb 2014 #40
and have turned off their new advertisement about how many people they're going to be hiring.... a kennedy Feb 2014 #32
They won't keep what I buy on the shelves. They go for weeks before getting stock back up. L0oniX Feb 2014 #37
Around here Aerows Feb 2014 #48
It's in the back room. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #58
And my family not setting a foot in the place. aquart Feb 2014 #51
When they finally go under, the Republicans will blame it on CanonRay Feb 2014 #53
Good. k&r n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #57
I went into our "local" Wal Mart Supercenter. raven mad Feb 2014 #59
And I voted to give a heart up thread to anyone up the post who didn't have one. TheOther95Percent Feb 2014 #60
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
46. Exactly
Reply to KG (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:42 PM
Feb 2014

Even in places where they should be a great employer, they don't have enough people to stock the shelves or check people out.

Keep paying people shit wages and treating them like dirt, and you will find no one wanting to work for you. No one wanting to work for you means nothing on the shelf, no one to check you out, and customers going other places. Business 101.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. Yay! People are finally waking up to the fact that WalMart is BAD for America.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:22 PM
Feb 2014

May they continue to flounder or may they get an epiphany and realize that their workers and customers are a larger pool than the wealthy and well-connected.

A [URL=http://www.sherv.net/][IMG][/IMG][/URL] for you, kpete!

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
9. No, walmart isnt bad for america.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:02 PM
Feb 2014

The assholes running it and other companies like it who dont want to pay a living wage is what is bad for america.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
29. I, in no way, support ...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:47 PM
Feb 2014

the walmart business model. But it is the consumer that ran the Mom & Pop stores out of business. If they (the M&Ps) were actually providing superior products, the consumers chose cheap over quality.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
45. True except that when times are tough it's hard to make the choice to spend more.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:39 PM
Feb 2014

It's almost a false choice given the circumstances.

And it's not even the cheapest place for some stuff. So if a family goes there as a one stop shop they don't necessarily even get the savings.


aquart

(69,014 posts)
54. Yup. That's what they did.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:00 AM
Feb 2014

Because Walmart strategy was to undercut local prices until the local businesses were forced out.

It. Was. Deliberate.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
56. Yes they did ...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:43 AM
Feb 2014

But that is not what the other poster was saying ... he/she (I don't recall their gender) was saying that walmart surplanted M&Ps that had superior products by under cutting the M&Ps' prices and by offering inferior products. It is/was the consumer that chose low price over product quality.

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
30. They manage that because they are able to get the government to pay the employees
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:47 PM
Feb 2014

what the company should atleast be doing plus they manage to get tax breaks when they build new walmarts aslo they are able to buy in bulk which many mom and pop stores just cant afford.
Now you cant really do much about the buying in bulk but things can be done about the tax breaks and the below poverty level wages they pay.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
33. Yes, they are...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:58 PM
Feb 2014

They refuse to pay decent wages, and many of their employees have to be on assistance. We subsidize their wages so the Walton fucks can get richer.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
44. No, I read it...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:38 PM
Feb 2014

You said Walmart isn't bad for America, it is the people who run it and their shit wages. That IS Walmart- you cannot separate them from their policies.

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
47. Thats because "walmart" itself isnt bad. The assholes running it and other companies in a similar
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:47 PM
Feb 2014

way are what is bad. Walmarts just name they stick on the store front after all its not a real person.

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
50. Nope. Besides do you really think its a good idea to "blame" a company
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:49 AM
Feb 2014

which isnt a real person rather than the real people who are actually making the decisions? I mean I dont know about you but I dont agree with citizens united because I dont believe a company is a person.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
52. I don't believe a corporation is a person either
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:56 AM
Feb 2014

but they are, unfortunately for us, considered as such by the govt.
So until the day comes when Citizens United is reversed, I will continue to see the predatory corporations and the people that run them as one.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
5. Sadly many people
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:54 PM
Feb 2014

can no longer afford to shop at Walmart including the people Walmart employs.

Henry Ford was correct about paying people enough to buy his cars - such a shame corporate behemoths today do not see the wisdom of his words.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. They might actually be surprised to discover they can afford
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:11 PM
Feb 2014

to shop elsewhere.

The two or three times I've done price comparisons, my local grocery store chain comes out well ahead of WalMart. Unfortunately, too many people believe the hype and don't even go into other stores.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
12. Agreed. My local employee owned grocery store is much cheaper than Wal-Mart with 10x the selection
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:19 PM
Feb 2014

And fresh produce.

I shop Goodwill for high quality clothes at a fraction of the cost. Craig's list for used higher priced items like kitchen ware, tools, appliances etc ( and Goodwill for those too).

I haven't gone to a Target or Wal-Mart in years.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
26. Walmart doesn't do well on meat pricing. My regional chain grocer almost always beats Walmart on
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:18 PM
Feb 2014

fresh cut meats. And the locals have a couple of actual butchers to boot. I buy boxed and canned goods from wally and the rest from local.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
36. Actually ...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:13 PM
Feb 2014

The only thing I purchase at walmart is trinket stuff. I've found my local (unionized) grocery beat's walmart in the meat, fish and produce pricing.

onethatcares

(16,173 posts)
42. when I look at
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:28 PM
Feb 2014

the brown colored pork from smithfield farms, I just can't bring myself to buy.

I prefer fresh cut too, be it pork or beef.

rbixby

(1,140 posts)
34. I have to say I enjoy the shopping experience at Target better anyway
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:06 PM
Feb 2014

Even though they're essentially the same place, they're not nearly as awful as Walmart (also they're the hometown team here in Minneapolis, so I always root for them just a little)

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
55. I agree
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:26 AM
Feb 2014

I have done the same with the same result. Walmart is not "the low price leader" on everything. At this point they actually are in competition with other stores and often don't win.

 

TheMathieu

(456 posts)
7. Walmart will crash and burn.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:57 PM
Feb 2014

And a new giant will rise.

Probably Amazon.

People will work in giant warehouses rather than giant supercenters.

Walmart, already fearful of them, removed Kindles from their stores.

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
13. I have only gone to Walmart in the past two years because Walmart gift cards were essentially part
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:19 PM
Feb 2014

of my pay, and sometimes I was just too broke not to use them. But usually when I went there it was hard to find a clerk, and when I did they usually didn't know anything about the products on the shelves. Understaffed, undertrained, and yes! when compared to other stores they are NOT the lowest prices. Just a few more reasons to boycott them.

Oh, and P.S., the company that was giving us the Walmart gift cards (if we hit certain production goals we were then put into a raffle to win one of those little $5-10 cards) just laid us all off three weeks ago, so I don't need to even have to deal with those damn cards anymore. Awesome!

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
15. uuuuuuuuuuuughhhh
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:30 PM
Feb 2014

I'm so sorry to read that. I was afraid you were going to say that at the end of your post. sigh. I hope you find something soon or have already. Good Luck! You deserve some good karma and good luck right now.

peace.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. Walmart could better bolster their corporate image
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:39 PM
Feb 2014

by voluntarily increasing their worker's wages and treating their employee fairly. It really comes down to the public perceiving Walmart owners as greedy. We are growing weary of greed. And rightly so.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
38. It would be a brilliant marketing campaign.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:27 PM
Feb 2014

They would not have to spend a dime on advertizing. All the news outlets would love to yap about it and discuss pro and con for hours on end for weeks. All the money they save on print and TV advertizing could go into the employees' benefits and salary. You should go into marketing! Plus the employees would spend the extra money at Walmart, they could write it all off if taxes. Probably would not cost them a dime really. If that happens, we know the corporate schmucks read DU!

My favorite slogan is "Rich people are stupid." Walmart heirs and the idiot AOL CEO are prime examples for my slogan.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
22. Well put
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:09 PM
Feb 2014

No reason to give that place any self-styled hegemony by not thinking there are other options. That, and the "don't feed the monster" angle as well.

I'm amazed though by how many people I know seem to almost depend on that store: They act like there's no other retail option out there whatsoever. I don't think it's so much out of loyalty as much as it is intertia.

mopinko

(70,134 posts)
19. union negotiators at the table are only as good as the worth of their label.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:56 PM
Feb 2014

look for the union label really meant something. and ibew contractor gets more than a scab because it means something to be an ibew contractor.

consumers are workers and if they don't support other workers with their dollars, why should a ceo bargain with that union? if they ceo knows his goods are worth less without that union label, they will bargain.

boycotts do work. it is great to see these leviathans subject to a leviathan consumer force.

VA_Jill

(9,983 posts)
20. Yep
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:57 PM
Feb 2014

We used to do the bulk of our grocery shopping at WalMart. Now, thanks to a change in diet, we shop primarily at a regional chain that offers a good selection of local and organic foods, a unionized grocery, and a locally owned co-op grocery. We do go to WalMart for a few items that we can find nowhere else, mostly non-food items, but if we didn't have to, we wouldn't.

My dad knew Sam Walton from high school days, and he was not at all like his greedy descendants. I think he would be appalled at what they have turned his legacy into. I met him once when he visited the new store in the town where I lived, and he was very down to earth. I think he was a sharp businessman but not a greedy a**hole. He's probably turning over in his grave.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
25. Walmart isn't even that good of a deal
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:14 PM
Feb 2014

You can get better prices and selections at other stores or online now if you can find the right sales.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
27. Publix in Florida
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:22 PM
Feb 2014

Yes, some prices are more expensive than Walmart, BUT they have a lot of buy one, get one free, so it probably works out to the same.

My biggest grip is produce. Publix seems to ship veggies and fruits from foreign countries, whereas Walmart does sell local Florida produce.

independentpiney

(1,510 posts)
31. Publix does work out the same or cheaper overall usually I'd think
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:48 PM
Feb 2014

consistently cheaper on tuna and pasta even without bogo deals. I'm lucky there's a locally owned produce store and a meat market at the entrance to the walmart plaza by me, so they get my business for those items and everything else I get from Publix. Not to mention Publix has really good fried chicken.

a kennedy

(29,675 posts)
32. and have turned off their new advertisement about how many people they're going to be hiring....
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:53 PM
Feb 2014

kinda like it's "good ol' USA," and we're going to be hiring thousands of workers....blah, blah, blah, I've turned it off a couple of times now. Anyone else see it??

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
37. They won't keep what I buy on the shelves. They go for weeks before getting stock back up.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:25 PM
Feb 2014

I won't buy a alt substitute either so they are sadly mistaken if they think "oh they will just buy some other brand".

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
48. Around here
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:51 PM
Feb 2014

They just keep the shelf bare. That's a great business practice, a refrigerator that has only ten gallons of milk in it, an egg case with about three cartons and all of them broken, and shelf space in the pet food aisle that is bare.

You think I'm kidding?

aquart

(69,014 posts)
51. And my family not setting a foot in the place.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:56 AM
Feb 2014

They assigned me Walmart drug coverage when I first achieved old age. I phoned and told them to change it because there was no way I'd do business with Walmart. Was told they hear that a lot.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
53. When they finally go under, the Republicans will blame it on
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:57 AM
Feb 2014

raising the minimum wage. Wait for it.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
59. I went into our "local" Wal Mart Supercenter.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 01:42 PM
Feb 2014

Once.

Found out I could buy locally, from a locally owned firm, less expensively. Ok, granted, only by $5. That was about 8 years ago. Haven't been inside since. Most of the cars/trucks/etc. in their lot have military stickers on them (local military tagging). I guess it's what they know?

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
60. And I voted to give a heart up thread to anyone up the post who didn't have one.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 02:05 PM
Feb 2014

I have never stepped foot in a Walmart. I don't support their business model.

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