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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:34 PM Mar 2012

The Zimmerman/Martin Case & Sundown Towns

Between 1890 and 1968, thousands of towns across the United States drove out their black populations or took steps to forbid African Americans from living in them. Thus were created “sundown towns,” so named because many marked their city limits with signs typically reading, “Nigger, Don't Let The Sun Go Down On You In Alix”—an Arkansas town in Franklin County that had such a sign around 1970. By 1970, when sundown towns were at their peak, more than half of all incorporated communities outside the traditional South probably excluded African Americans, including probably more than a hundred towns in the northwestern two-thirds of Arkansas. White residents of the traditional South rarely engaged in the practice; they kept African Americans down but hardly drove them out. Accordingly, no sundown town has yet been confirmed in the southeastern third of Arkansas that lies east of a line from Brightstar (Miller County) to Blytheville (Mississippi County), and only three likely suspects have emerged.

Sundown towns in Arkansas range from hamlets like Alix to larger towns like Paragould (Greene County) and Springdale (Washington County). Entire counties went sundown, such as Boone, Clay, and Polk. Some multi-county areas also kept out African Americans. In Mississippi County, for example, according to historian Michael Dougan, a red line that was originally a road surveyor’s mark defined a “dead line” beyond which African Americans might not trespass to the west. That line apparently continued northeast into the Missouri Bootheel and southwest to Lepanto (Poinsett County), delineating more than 2,000 square miles.

Although there were not towns like these prior to the Civil War, precedents existed for the exclusion of free African Americans. As early as 1843, Arkansas denied free blacks entry into the state, and in 1859, Arkansas required such persons to leave the state by January 1, 1860, or be sold into slavery. Moreover, in 1864, the loyalist Arkansas faction passed a new state constitution that abolished slavery but excluded African Americans from moving into the state. However, that constitution never went into effect, and during Reconstruction, African Americans participated politically across the state. In 1890, every county had at least six African Americans, and only one had fewer than ten.

Then, between 1890 and 1940, white residents forced African Americans to make a “Great Retreat” in Arkansas and across the North. During this “Nadir of Race Relations,” lynchings peaked, and unions drove African Americans from such occupations as railroad fireman and meat cutter. Democrat Jeff Davis ran for Arkansas governor in 1900, 1902, and 1904, and then for the U. S. Senate in 1906; his language grew more Negrophobic with each campaign. “We have come to a parting of the way with the Negro,” he shouted. “If the brutal criminals of that race…. lay unholy hands upon our fair daughters, nature is so riven and shocked that the dire compact produces a social cataclysm.” White people responded with violence. By 1930, three Arkansas counties had no African Americans at all, and another eight had fewer than ten, all in the Arkansas Ozarks. By 1960, six counties had no African Americans (Baxter, Fulton, Polk, Searcy, Sharp, and Stone), seven more had one to three, and yet another county had six. All fourteen were probably sundown counties; eight have been confirmed.

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http://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=3658


On the tape, Zimmerman makes a big deal about the entrance to his gated-community. And the fact that he has yet to be charged tells me that Sundown Towns are alive and well in Florida.
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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
2. The family Trayvon was staying with was black, as are other residents of the community
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:30 PM
Mar 2012

See the pictures of neighbors in the news reports.

The community has gates, but the perimeter fence is not complete. "Gated" is probably a realtor's marketing term, rather than any real security feature.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
3. Looks like the "projects" to me
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:18 AM
Mar 2012

with a gate or two. I agree that it just sounds like a realtors way of marketing.

I've visited many "gated communities" and there didn't seem to be any "convenience stores" for miles around. They also had professional type security.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
4. Great point. Using this Orlando Sentinal Map as a guide, I did a Google Maps walk around...
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 01:37 AM
Mar 2012


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-gfx-trayvon-martin-sanford-shooting-20120313,0,5710580.graphic

There's a big showy gate near the home Trayvon was visiting, but otherwise, the neighborhood is wide open.

FloridaJudy

(9,465 posts)
5. Good point. The complex I live in is "gated"
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 01:55 AM
Mar 2012

In the sense that you need a card or a resident's phone approval for a vehicle to get in. But pedestrians can wander in and out as they please.

It's nothing fancy. It's racially and ethnically mixed, though probably not affordable to the really poor. And there's a convenience store just up the road for those of us who don't own cars and run out of something after the buses stop running.

"Gated" does not mean "rich".

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
7. The nearest 7-Eleven is over a mile north on West 1st Street
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:36 AM
Mar 2012

Given where he was relative to the home he was staying at, he probably entered via the north gate on Oregon Avenue and then used the sidewalk between the buildings.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
15. Could you post
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:02 PM
Mar 2012

those pics or possibly links to the news reports. I don't mean to be pretentious or offensive, but DU is very valuable to me precisely because it allows access to the story I wouldn't otherwise see. Thanks

unc70

(6,121 posts)
6. Sundown towns were more common outside the South
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 01:55 AM
Mar 2012

Recent book explored their prevalence in Midwest, but surprisingly in model planned cities in North and NE.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
8. The next town over from me
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:42 AM
Mar 2012

is one of those towns. Removed their sign only after the civil rights bill was passed and it wasn't actually removed for a long time they just quit propping it up so it finally fell down on its own. So many times I've wished I'd collected that sign after it finally had fallen for posterity.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
9. Thing is: the media kept hammering on the "Gated Community" aspect of the story....
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:46 AM
Mar 2012

a kind of dog whistle racism, as in:

"What was the black kid in a hoody doing in the gated community?"

--- or ---

"Sure the kid wasn't near Zimmerman's home, but he was still inside the gated community."

Coyote_Bandit

(6,783 posts)
10. Arthur Dickerson
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:27 PM
Mar 2012

was an African-American and a lifetime resident of Benton County, Arkansas. He was a highly regarded and well-respected businessman for over 50 years in the Bentonville community. His wife was a teacher and he ran a business and had many, many largely successful business ventures. The Bentonville Chamber of Commerce still gives an annual award in his name. In the 1970s, he ran for Mayor of Bentonville and damn near was elected. Had he not been a black man he would have been elected even at his advanced age. Both he and his wife are gone now, they died in the late 70's/early 80's.

Those Arkansas sundown counties are largely rugged, rural, sparsely populated counties that even today have poverty rates that rival those of the Appalachians. The entire population of some of these counties (e.g., Izard county) today is less than 20,000 people. Some of the regional commercial centers (e.g., Batesville) in these areas have populations today of less than 10,000 people. The people who lived in these sundown counties were largely poor people who were poorly educated, had little contact/travel outside their own community/culture and had minimal if any contact with black people during their entire lifetime. The areas where they lived offered few incentives to attract new residents. They mostly lived in sparsely populated areas that did not have a ready police presence - or a good source for news, information, and adult education. Some of these counties still have only one very small public library. Sometimes it is important to understand the context in which a law exists to understand how it came to be. The impact of the fear instilled by hate mongers (e.g., Jeff Davis) on simple, poor, uneducated people struggling for survival ought not be denied or ignored.

Yes, sundown laws were wrong and offensive. But (1) we would do well to undersatnd the context in which they existed and (2) contrary to the tone of the article linked, we should also recognize that there were areas in northwest Arkansas where blacks were welcome, included in the community and respected.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
11. I'm learning more and more about this whole "gated community" situation....
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:32 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002449980

This is becoming a real eye-opener. It seems yesterday's Gated Communities are becoming today's Caged Communities.

Bottom line: Allowing fear to dictate housing choices on a societal level always ends badly.
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
14. All security has its foundations in physical security
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:00 PM
Mar 2012

The basics are the ability to control your surrounding physical space and to know who and what is in it.

I'm sure that all those folks who have spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan are well versed in it.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
13. Exclusion of black people existed/s in many forms all over this country.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:54 AM
Mar 2012

You point out that we need to understand the uneducated, poor people struggling for survival who had little contact with black people in those particular counties.

In contrast, take Santa Clara County, aka Silicon Valley, where there was no written law only a not-so-tacit agreement among realtors and lenders through the 70s. My neighbors were not poor, had access to three universities, some of them were astronauts, ( i.e., well traveled), and this valley boomed after the war. "No selling to color west of the 101" was what new realtors were told - which was a joke because the whole place is west of the 101 freeway.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
12. The more I think about this, the more right I think you are.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:43 AM
Mar 2012

Orlando is crawling with hate groups, there's at least one documented sd town a stone's throw away from Sanford.

http://sundown.afro.illinois.edu/sundowntownsshow.php?id=1143

What we will find out is that the PD uses skinheads to inform for them or something similar, watch.

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