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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPraying Away the School Day in Alabama
It hasnt been easy for some kids in schools in Red States these days. In Utah, school workers recently took away lunches from 40 children whose parents allegedly had unpaid balances and threw the food in the trash. You dont have any money in your account, one fifth-grader reported she was told by a school official, so you cant get lunch.
Well, we guess thats one way to counter the recent news that American kids find school too boring. Take away their lunches! That oughta amp up the excitement level.
But in case youre worried that officials in Red States care more about humiliating children instead of educating them, take heart: In good ol Alabama, Republican State Rep. Steve Hurst has a big idea on how schools can teach both history and civics to Alabama schoolchildren and it only takes 15 minutes a day!
Hursts big idea? Get the kids to pray. Really! After all, says Hurst, If Congress can open with a prayer, and the state of Alabama Legislature can, I dont see why schools cant. Thats where teaching history and civics come in: Hurst wants kids to say prayers that were read in Congress at important historical moments, like the prayer said in Congress the day war was declared in 1941. Or the prayer said the day after September 11, 2001.
If its good enough for government, Hurst is saying, then its good enough for schools. While were tempted to suggest that perhaps prayer belongs in neither, we feel compelled to point out that schoolkids are more vulnerable and impressionable than elected officials. Wait: scratch that. We just remembered Ted Cruz.
Hursts bill has been denounced by saner people who recognize this as a bald attempt to reinstate prayer in school. While that seems obvious, we are talking about Alabama here, where a battle for Hursts seat has left his Republican primary challenger and even his Democrat opponent treading cautiously. Its interesting, said businessman and primary challenger Steve Dean, but I dont jump in to support a bill I havent read. I think prayer is important in anybodys life, said the Democratic candidate Stephanie Engle before mumbling something vague about giving kids a course in comparative religions and adding that setting aside 15 minutes for a prepared prayer isnt as constructive.
It would be reassuring if any one of these candidates felt confident pointing out how obviously this law would violate the US Constitution and could use a word like, say, wrong or insane instead of calling the proposed bill something less than constructive.
Of course, all of this has got us thinking. Its often pointed out that the kids we teach today are the adults who will take care of us later, as our doctors, pharmacists, elected officials
that we dont just have a responsibility to teach our kids, but its also strongly in our self-interest.
So you know what else will be in our self-interest? Avoiding these kids when theyre grown up and coming after us offering to do our taxes, fill a prescription or do an emergency appendix transplant. After all, if Hurst gets his way, Alabama schoolkids will spend about 45 hours a year praying instead of, say, learning math, or science, or even learning sex ed. But, to avoid these kids decades later, well have to know how to spot them. How will we do that? What do YOU think?
"If Alabama forces kids today to pray instead of learn, how could we identify them in 20 or 30 years?"
(Take the poll HERE and original post with sources is at http://lesterandcharlie.com/2014/02/13/praying-away-the-school-day/ .)
shenmue
(38,506 posts)They have no business using a public school as a quasi-church to convert those who do not go to their church.
There is no official religion. There are no religious laws. How many times do we have to say that?
bondwooley
(1,198 posts).... Amen to what you said!
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I actually can't believe this, but this MIGHT stand up to Supreme Court ruling. Only because it is historical and real life situations. It would be very interesting to see what happens. I do agree that people should send their kids to private schools if they want prayers in school, however they are being very cleaver in this.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)'Historical prayers'?
Historical WASP prayers, I bet. He doesn't sound like he's reaching out to many of the thousands of denominations in this country, let alone the different religions.
It's still compulsory religious actions in public-funded schools. They can do that in private schools, not public ones. Period.
What part of "no law reflecting an establishment of religion" do you not understand?
scrubthedata
(382 posts)They want the coming generations to be ignorant and willing to take low wage jobs that can make the oligarchy even wealthier. Imagine how happy the Koch brothers would be if they could set up slave labor shops in the U.S. to make their Bounty paper towels. The poor would get poorer, the rich would get richer, and no one would have the wits or wherewithall to complain.