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LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:54 AM Feb 2014

Former CEO: Executive Pay Is 'A Fraud'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/13/leo-hindery-ceo-pay_n_4784162.html

You can blame the stagnant economy on a "handful of women and men" who run the country's largest companies. And that's according to a man who used to be one of those people.

Executive pay has gotten so out of hand, former AT&T Broadband CEO Leo Hindery told HuffPost Live on Thursday, that it has caused a "structural breakdown of the meritocracy of our nation."

Hindery pointed out that, even as CEO pay has skyrocketed in recent decades, it has not "trickled down" to workers, who must increasingly borrow money to finance their spending. That dynamic helped set the stage for the most recent recession and helps explain today's sluggish recovery.

Fortune 500 CEOs now make more than 200 times what their average workers make, according to Bloomberg data. That ratio has increased by 1,000 percent since 1950. As CEO pay has exploded, worker pay has stagnated: Workers have not had a real cost-of-living increase since the 1960s, Hindery argued.

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Former CEO: Executive Pay Is 'A Fraud' (Original Post) LiberalArkie Feb 2014 OP
When I grew up, taking as much money from the till as you wanted, was called theft shenmue Feb 2014 #1
Thank you, shenmue for putting it into words. Octafish Feb 2014 #4
Most pertinent! dougolat Feb 2014 #19
+1,000 TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #6
And then trickle-down economics became the buzzword. toddwv Feb 2014 #8
thanks for posting this. nt antigop Feb 2014 #2
But we working men and women already knew this. We want a way to stop the fraud. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #3
Unfortunately the economy will have to get far, far, worse CFLDem Feb 2014 #5
bosses are usually #$%^ demigoddess Feb 2014 #7
"I got mine." PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #9
"...structural breakdown of the meritocracy of our nation." randome Feb 2014 #10
If only politicians could not be bought and sold. Rex Feb 2014 #11
Time has come ... progressoid Feb 2014 #12
Now that's what we're talking about. K&R. ck4829 Feb 2014 #13
So true! Bookmarking! n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #14
CEO is the last refuge of a scoundrel. nt Edim Feb 2014 #15
so-- "women and men" as though there were an equal number of them niyad Feb 2014 #16
I noticed this peculiar wording too Lordquinton Feb 2014 #18
what top female ceo's earn niyad Feb 2014 #17
Money needs to circulate CJCRANE Feb 2014 #20
"Trickle Down" is a modern-day SCAM. But try telling that to our DEMS, many of whom are wealthy and blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #21
Even if taken in a vacuum and looked at objectively, King_Klonopin Feb 2014 #22
And 2r = d ... freebrew Feb 2014 #23
Unfortunately it might BuelahWitch Feb 2014 #24

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Thank you, shenmue for putting it into words.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:07 PM
Feb 2014

A thief is still a thief, even when he's the boss.

William K. Black calls it "Control Fraud."

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/category/william-k-black

dougolat

(716 posts)
19. Most pertinent!
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:49 PM
Feb 2014

This appears to be the primary mechanism of upward wealth redistribution/theft from investors and society in general.
Clawback is called for.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
8. And then trickle-down economics became the buzzword.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:55 PM
Feb 2014

Then they gutted tax structures that discouraged such graft.
Then somehow, everyone seemed to think that it was perfectly OK to pay your workers peanuts while the top of the heap offshore their money to avoid paying what little taxes are left.

demigoddess

(6,644 posts)
7. bosses are usually #$%^
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:54 PM
Feb 2014

first boss I worked for sexually harassed every woman within reach, yelled at everyone for nothing and gave his managers 'gifts' they didn't need instead of giving them christmas bonuses which they could have used. I got paid 50 cents an hour.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
9. "I got mine."
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:57 PM
Feb 2014

Will he donate all his CEO wealth to homeless shelters and go back to work? No? Oh, what a great person. "I got mine...."

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. "...structural breakdown of the meritocracy of our nation."
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:58 PM
Feb 2014

Nicely put for those of us literate enough to understand it. Probably lost on the GOP.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. If only politicians could not be bought and sold.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:59 PM
Feb 2014

If we just had a few...that would not agree to a price tag by the various predatory institutions. Once we lose our government to Big Biz...oh nm already happened. Now we are FUCKED.

niyad

(113,519 posts)
16. so-- "women and men" as though there were an equal number of them
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:30 PM
Feb 2014

in reality, women hold FOUR POINT FOUR percent of the fortune 500 and fortune 1000 posts, which means that NINETY-FIVE POINT SIX percent of the thieves are men:

Women CEOs of the Fortune 500
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is a list of Women CEOs of the Fortune 500, updated as of January 2013, 501-1000 updated as of January 2013. [1]

Women currently hold 4.4 percent of Fortune 500 CEO roles and 4.4 percent of Fortune 1000 CEO roles.
Fortune 500 (22 CEOs)

Meg Whitman, HP (#10) [2]
Virginia Rometty, IBM (#19)[3]
Patricia A. Woertz, Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM) (#28)[4]
Indra K. Nooyi, PepsiCo, Inc. (#41)[5]
Irene B. Rosenfeld, Mondelēz International [6]
Marillyn Hewson, Lockheed Martin (#58)[7]
Ellen J. Kullman, DuPont (#72) [8]
Phebe Novakovic, General Dynamics (#92)
Carol M. Meyrowitz, The TJX Companies, Inc. (#125)
Ursula M. Burns, Xerox Corporation (#127)[9]
Sheri S. McCoy, Avon Products Inc. (#234)[10]
Deanna M. Mulligan, Guardian Life Insurance Company of America (#250)
Debra L. Reed, Sempra Energy (#266)
Denise M. Morrison, Campbell Soup (#334)[11]
Ilene Gordon, Ingredion (#390)
Heather Bresch, Mylan (#396)[12]
Kathleen M. Mazzarella, Graybar Electric (#451)
Mary Agnes (Maggie) Wilderotter, Frontier Communications (#464)[13]
Gracia C. Martore, Gannett (#465)[14]
Marissa Mayer, Yahoo (#483)[15]
Beth E. Mooney, KeyCorp (#499)
Lynn Good, Duke Energy[16]

Fortune 501-1000 (21 CEOs)

Karen W. Katz, The Neiman Marcus Group Inc. (#568)
Gretchen McClain, Xylem Inc., (#586)
Laura J. Alber, Williams-Sonoma (#596)[17]
Patricia Kampling, Alliant Energy (#606)
Cindy B. Taylor, Oil States International Inc. (#628)
Tamara L. Lundgren, Schnitzer Steel Industries (#631)
Kimberly Harris, Puget Sound Energy (#646)
Constance H. Lau, Hawaiian Electric Industries (#659)
Mindy F. Grossman, HSN Inc. (#665)[18]
Amy Miles, Regal Entertainment Group (#758)
Diane M. Sullivan, Brown Shoe Company (#772)
Helen McCluskey, Warnaco Group (#791)
Sandra Cochran, Cracker Barrel (#804)
Gayla Delly, Benchmark Electronics (#853)
Katherine Krill, ANN Inc. (#864)
Linda A. Lang, Jack in the Box (#870)[19]
Denise Ramos, ITT (#889)
Patti S. Hart, International Game Technology (#918) [20]
Judy McReynolds, Arkansas Best Corp. (#944)
Debra Cafaro, Ventas (#992)
Sara Mathew, Dun & Bradstreet (#996)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_CEOs_of_the_Fortune_500

niyad

(113,519 posts)
17. what top female ceo's earn
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 02:39 PM
Feb 2014

What Top Female CEOs Earn

Updated September 24, 2012
Originally published October 27, 2009

Female CEOs who break through the glass ceiling still face a persistent form of gender bias -- one that's apparent when you look at what top female CEOs earn. Although the average woman earns 78 cents on every dollar a man earns, the average female CEO earns only 33 cents on every dollar a male CEO makes. On average, women earned $3.8 million while men earned $11.9 million.

In announcing America's top-paid female CEOs in September 2009, Forbes magazine noted the discrepancy in pay and compensation between men and women, even in the same field:

[E]xecutive women still struggle for respect. Lynn Elsenhans, the only woman running a big oil company, was paid $2.2 million last year by $37 billion refiner Sunoco. Bruce Smith, head of refining concern Tesoro, which had sales of $20 billion in 2008, took home $18.6 million.

In determining a CEO's compensation, several factors -- such as a CEO's length of time with the company -- influence decision-making. And compensation typically reflects much more than just a CEO's salary. Additional perks include bonuses, stock options, and executive personal benefits; these may take the form of medical exams, tax preparation, club memberships, and use of corporate vehicles (e.g. the oft-maligned company jet.)

http://womensissues.about.com/od/intheworkplace/a/WhatTopFemaleCEOsEarn.htm




Name Company Tenure as CEO Compensation in Millions


Andrea Jung Avon Products 10 years $11.8
Carol Meyrowitz TJX 3 years $11.1
Indra Nooyi PepsiCo 3 years $9.4
Susan Ivey Reynolds American 5 years $9.4
Tamara Lundgren Schnitzer Steel Industries 10 months $6.6
Irene Rosenfeld Kraft 3 years $5.7
Kay Krill Ann Taylor Stores 4 years $5.3
Brenda Barnes Sarah Lee 5 years $4.6
Patricia Woertz Archer Daniels Midland 3 years $4.5
Angela Braly WellPoint 2 years $4.1
 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
21. "Trickle Down" is a modern-day SCAM. But try telling that to our DEMS, many of whom are wealthy and
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 12:15 AM
Feb 2014

willingly choose not to put 2 and 2 together. That would hurt their own bottom line, apparently.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
22. Even if taken in a vacuum and looked at objectively,
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:20 AM
Feb 2014

What on earth justifies paying ANYONE a salary of tens of millions of dollars PER YEAR ?

Managing other peoples' money ??
Owning a bank (which basically holds other peoples' money) ??
Selling stocks and bonds ??
Hitting a baseball ??
Screwing employees (Wal-Mart) ??
Gutting the workforce of a corporation by thousands at a time (Sunbeam, Verizon) ??
Increasing value of the company stock using any unethical means necessary (ENRON, AIG) ??
Decreasing value of the company stock because of incompetence (GM, Chrysler, Citibank, Countrywide) ??

Meanwhile, what's the average salary of a teacher, or a nurse, or a firefighter ... ???????

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
23. And 2r = d ...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 11:48 AM
Feb 2014

it takes a RW CEO for anyone to listen?

This started with Raygun's trickle-down voodoo bullshit.

If only the M$M cared to report things like this.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
24. Unfortunately it might
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 11:57 AM
Feb 2014

Somebody from the inside to validate what we've been saying all along. Media doesn't listen to us. Maybe they'll listen to a rich guy (although, I have a feeling that it will take more than one rich guy. Still it's a start).

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