is that it has the unintended consequence of NEVER letting in any other opinion or perspective. You develop a tendency to only consider valid your own points of view and that's never a good idea.

But seriously, she does fine work. For a change. so much better to hear this than to hear about her enabling corrupt energy concerns.

Many millions of corporate dollars will also lighten her burden in the field of politics. I like when she laughs it off. A sense of humor is a nice form of armor.

A woman like say, Warren, just does an excellent job at what she does. That's good advice, too. That's a good way to not be so much like a "political creature". If only there were some way to fill these elected positions from outside of the wealthy professional-political class.

It's not easy. Voters need a skin like a rhino.

I don't think she's talking about policy differences. She's talking about personal attacks based on gender.

I do that sometimes.

nt

But female politicians seem to have it worse. We know Hillary has probably had it worse than anyone in recent US history.

women in the entertainment industry need to have very supple, smooth, creamy rhino skin too.

And feet the shape of stiletto heels. No wonder why when they've gotten to the top, many have gone insane.

sane to begin with.

I never saw anything like the 2008 primaries. Progressive women ripping her apart in every way possible. When you consider how hard she has fought for the rights of women all over the world for decades, you think they would at least be civil.

I wonder what these same people think now, since politically speaking, Obama and Hillary could be twins.

People are hurt. Young people are hurt and disappointed. Older folks thought they saw in Obama the spirit of our murdered President Kennedy.

We no longer get progressives. I pray that young people fight this terrible electoral machine rather than turn away in disappointment.

Clinton would have...and will be...worse than Obama in welcoming corporate ownership of this nation.

It would be nice to be surprised

Clinton has a history, it's not good, despite her recent and excellent tour as Sec of state. It's not enough to wipe the slate clean.

Considering where he got the money and power to get elected, he would never pass your purity test today.

the Third Way® right wing purity test?

rights. See what happened to the women of Iraq eg, once educated with equal pay for equal work, free to wear whatever they wanted, now afraid to go out of their homes for a walk, let alone go to work. Millions of them are now living in refugee camps, hundreds of thousands more have lost their babies, their husbands, their parents.

Has she ever addressed the rape of Iraqi and Afghan women by US troops, in Abu Ghraib and elsewhere?

Words, I judge people by their actions, not their words. As a lifelong supporter of women's rights, I could never support illegal invasions of other countries as I know what that does to everyone, but women become particularly vulnerable when we break down their infrastructure.

And you would know that if you were not so quick to jump on the lieabouthillary bandwagon. She has worked her entire life for women around the world. Is she perfect? Of course not. But, she is held to a higher standard.

particular, which has devasted the entire country and reduced women to nothing. SHE SUPPORTED and still does afaik, that egregious violation of human rights.

She cannot seriously claim to support women's rights and not have at least finally come to the conclusion that she was wrong. There were no WMDs in Iraq, I have heard others who foolishly supported invasion, finally admit, too late, that they were wrong.

If she has joined them, I have not seen it. I saw her support for the Libya invasion, has she addressed the murders and rapes of women from sub Saharan Africa who were caught in the crossfire of that atrocity?

If she has directly addressed all these women and apologized to them for supporting the destruction of their lives and all of their human rights, then please link to it.

I did not support her because of her support for these horrific wars.


Where is the lie in my comment? Did she or did she not support all of these Bush wars? I also remember he prevarication on torture. I do not support people who promote human rights abuses and the entire Iraq Debacle was one massive human rights abuse which is still going on as we totally destroyed that country.

If you have links to her addressing what we did to those women, I'd like to see them.

But no one who supports women's rights supports unnecessary wars for profit.

Google is your friend. And it would be nice if people would research rather than just regurgitate lies.

Flanked by her daughter, Chelsea, and philanthropist Melinda Gates, Clinton focused on women’s economic empowerment as she spoke in support of the “No Ceilings” project — a joint venture of the Clinton Foundation and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that seeks to empower women and girls by aggregating the best data on their contributions to society and security.

been paying attention for the past 30 years. Strike that - for you entire adult life.

of Iraq and Afghanistan for the rapes and murders perpetrated on them by invading armies, the ones she supported? I wonder if she has even followed the dreadful plight of those women since her vote to support the brutal, illegal Iraq invasion?

It's hard to have 'skin like a rhinocerous' when there are bombs dropping on your home, or you have been dragged off to some gulag where you are abused and raped etc. That's what the wars she supports does to women.

No Women's Right advocate supports War. None that I know anyhow, because they know what happens to women in war.

Yep. Awful. Terrible.

I understand, there never was any defense for it.

Snide responses in attempts to distract from the reality that she did support, all of these wars where women have been decimated in every possible way only emphasizes how impossible it is to defend it.

The President at the time, BUSH could not have done it without all those who shamefully supported him.

Let's see what she has to say to you.

BTW, if instead of spewing drivel you bothered to read the article, you would know the answer.

Unbelievable, the crap one has to read in this place..........

WTF is that supposed to mean?

Anyways...here's a thought

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/07/hillary-clinton-is-a-very-well-paid-speaker.html

Unbelievable, the crap that supplants democracy.

You guys are so funny.

Therefore, of course it was a free speech.

Founders of Foundations do educational events in order to further the purpose and mission of said Foundation the Founders don't get paid.

I would also assume that in order to do this event the Foundation had to pay NYU for use of the facilities, etc.

Would you ever suggest that the President gets paid for the State of the Union address?

But that just proves how inane it is.

Both Clintons give plenty of free speeches. Your assertion that they never give free speeches is not true. Actually, the ratio is probably higher for free speeches than paid ones.

Go figure it out yourself.

I didn't know that then, I will repeat, no supporter of Women's Rights supports illegal invasions of their countries. I have never heard her address the plight of the millions of women whose freedom and lives were destroyed by the wars she supported.

I would send her some reports from those war zones and ask her how she feels about her support now that we know what those wars did to the women who live/lived (many had their human rights totally removed and are no longer here to tell us how their 'women's rights' survived those brutal invasions. But I am sure she knows. When you have skin as thick as a rhinocerous you don't allow such things to change your mind about Imperial, wars for profit.

I guess my skin isn't that thick. As a Women's Rights advocate I oppose invading countries having seen what war does to women.

nt.

the Repubs are vile no matter what the sex, etc. Though they will use their bigotry against female leaders to make it worse. That comment is OK if it is meant to point to their hypocrisy. But then they will want to punish women, etc., who "step out of line."

Another first lady who was vilified by many. Hillary has been saying that for many years and it applies to her to a T. If she had to worry about all the nastiness spewed at her and her family, she wouldn't even get out of bed in the morning. So she ignores the hate and listens only to those whose opinion she respects and values. Good advice for anyone, if you ask me.

Welfare reform, NAFTA, the chronic closeness with big business.

Absolutely. Fucking. Appalled.

I resent her riding on Eleanor's good work. And her husband's disgusting part in dismantling all that FDR worked himself to death for with The New Deal.

What happened to history in this country, for god's sake? It's all about personality and salesmanship.

Given the situation, FDR would have been in the same place. With the depression as bad as it was and a more D Congress, he had far more political capital. If he had the same challenges as Democrats of today, it would be quite similar (in fact a lot of the left would have rejected him for being of an old rich family).

he verbally and politically demolished republicans repeatedly, endlessly.

All I see is footsy today.

I'm quite sure of what I stated, regardless.

The only "situation" we have today is that people are convinced that they must choose whom the wealthy abusers have pre-chosen for them

And also some fervid few scurrying about, trouncing them on the head to comply with that theory, despite what history and experience and observation reveals to them.

That would have met today with accusations of doing nothing. Just talk.

She quotes Eleanor because she admires her. I sincerely doubt that Eleanor would be "disgusted" by Hillary. Don't project your bias on people who are long dead and can't refute you.

The goal is to treat women with exactly the respect one treats men.

but Hillary is of the generation where talk like that is ingrained and still used.

I don't like being called 'the fairer sex' because why do I have to be more fair than men! for one thing

- or is it 'fair' as in complexion?
anyway, time for that old saying to go away.

especially DUers!

but a rhino also has a big, sharp horn too. It can kill an attacker. Right?

Now that can make for Really tough times, which Hillary has never and will never see the likes of.

What kind of reasoning is that??????????

That logic makes no sense. Go back to playing in the snow with your tiny fleabag.

I mean it.

I know how you operate, Bea.

I've seen its pic. It's a cutie. Boy or girl?