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In the wake of Titanic-sized PR disaster that was Paula Deen's deposition in 2013, a New Jersey-based company doubled down on the much-maligned celebu-chef, adding a second Paula Deen-themed cruise for her fans and supporters.
The ship left from Miami and hit a bunch of spots in the Eastern Caribbean. Of the 3,030 people that could fit on the ship, 100 and change were a part of the Paula Deen package, having spent an extra $700 to be included in 12 events featuring and/or sponsored by Deen herself.
Among the Deen cruisers was Caity Weaver, a Philly girl and Gawker reporter who wanted to see exactly how racist the folks on the Paula Deen cruise would be.
Turns out, pretty racist.
In her essentially eternal profile of the Deen cruise, Weaver lists everything she ate on the cruise, lists every place she heard someone say the N-word, and describes her interaction with a number of different folks she met on her trip, most of whom are older widows from the American South.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Everyone-on-the-Paula-Deen-cruise-was-racist-apparently.html
The original story, if you want to avoid philly.com's overrun with racists comments section:
http://gawker.com/gravy-boat-my-week-on-the-high-seas-with-paula-deen-an-1522108382
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)Every participant in the Deen Family Lawn Olympics receives a red silicone Paula Deen spatula set, and also the image of Paula Deen's legging-clad rump stretching up to kiss the sun, burned into his or her brain forever.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Going to the gawker article - Caity's original piece! This piece is very well written!
proReality
(1,628 posts)and now I've lost my appetite. I hope that photo haunts her the rest of her life.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)The only reason to attend this event would be a chance for these racists to be among their own kind
M0rpheus
(885 posts)Gravy Boat: My Week on the High Seas With Paula Deen and Friends
http://gawker.com/gravy-boat-my-week-on-the-high-seas-with-paula-deen-an-1522108382
It's much better to read the actual article. There's quite a bit of nuance there.
The story includes the "everyday racism" of the cruisers (one except here), but there is more to it.
"They use that word to each other," he says, meaning black people. "It's in their music."
I suggest to him that there is a difference between a black person saying it to another black person and a white person saying it to a black person, comparing the circumstances (admittedly, not very convincingly) to the difference between telling a self-deprecating joke about oneself and being subject to mockery from others.
"Don't you think that's a double standard?" he asks.
Sure.
"And you're OK with that," he says. (It's not a question.)
This man is one of the very few first-time Deen cruisers who admits to booking the trip as a show of support for Paula; when asked directly, most people suggest they just felt like booking their very first Paula Deen cruise this year out of the blue, for no reason. The gentleman at my table rattles off a list of companies he stopped supporting when they ceased their partnerships with Deen.
The whole article is worth a read...
eShirl
(18,494 posts)asjr
(10,479 posts)the "reporter" than it does anyone else on the cruise.
eShirl
(18,494 posts)I'm grooving on her writing
I originally clicked to read about the racism angle of the cruise, but found much more than that -- a writer whose work I am enjoying, and would likely enjoy regardless of subject
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Kicking to read later!
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)declaration for her Bag Lady "charity" mentioned halfway down the page. More than half of the money is going to salaries and "consulting fees".
That failed auction including her husband's dirty shirt was hysterical!
What a freaking SCAM!
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)It's just how I feel when I'm around my parents and their friends. They're all very nice and you want to be nice back, but they say and do some of the most hideous things.
That cruise is my worst nightmare. I think I would really like to know the reporter personally, but she is seriously twisted for even going on that cruise from hell. I would've been at the bar the entire time. The fact that the reporter was able to go through that whole cruise and keep it straight for a week says a lot about her abilities. I think she's ready for a war zone.
Rhythm
(5,435 posts)My mother is ~exactly~ like that...
very nice, pleasant, church-on-Sunday kind of older lady (she's almost 70) if you deal with her in-passing.
But some of the casually-racist/bigoted things that spew forth from her without her giving it a second-thought are positively appalling.
To be fair, in my case i know what i'm in for. This is the same woman who -- when i was in 12th grade -- ordered my friend Eddie out of the house when she came home from work early as we were rehearsing a comedic skit for drama class; Mom could't decide if she was more offended by the fact that there was a *gasp* African-American in her home (she used the n-word when telling me to get him out of her house), or the fact that he was fabulously gay!
Needless to say, she and i don't talk much...
I am the antithesis of everything she is.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)How can responses to an article in what defines itself a Philadelphia web site be so consistently racist? Is there an editor culling out responses that call out those that are making onto the page?
onehandle
(51,122 posts)The N word is the most commonly used slur.
Smarter trolls use 'urban', 'ghetto,' etc to prevent deletion.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Squinch
(50,955 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)"...and ran for three seasons (funded by the Department of Defense)"
WTF (a): There's a 'Pentagon Channel'
WTF (b): It has cooking shows
WTF (c): This is funded by the DoD
WTF (d): It ran for 3 seasons.
Time to look at Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon_Channel
This is all a hoax, isn't it?
eShirl
(18,494 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)We are a sweet people, but the fuckery can be insane.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)Toast.
marble falls
(57,105 posts)Pretty good stuff. Yep. Racism is almost gone all right.
proudretiredvet
(312 posts)I don't know anyone who likes her or who ever watched her on TV.
How does this writer get to the point of saying that an elderly quiet man who is standing and watching the ocean is somehow contemplating people he has killed.
It must be a slow news week. If this writer can't come up with more than her speculation about a persons thoughts, which she has no way of knowing, then she just wasted an entire week of her time. Then I wasted a few minutes of my time reading this. Damn I'm mad at me.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Nitram
(22,822 posts)Any serious and honest discussion of race in America deserves consideration. Don't be fooled by the author's understated approach, her great sense of humor or her self-daprecatory remarks. There's a lot to think about here, not the least of which is the steps a TV personality can take to rehabilitate herself in the public's eye once she's been outed as a racist, such as "palling around" with a few carefully-chosen representatives of the race in question.
proudretiredvet
(312 posts)No, my main disgust with this article was that without any communication the writer's presumption that she knew what a quiet elderly man was contemplating. That is pure and utter BS. But I guess some thrive on this type of stereotyping and bigotry.
Please, using fact, provable, testable fact, tell me how the hell she possibly could know this bit of information.
When she made that jump in her creative literature she put herself and her article in the same category as her main subject. Irrelevant to anything important.
Nitram
(22,822 posts)She was not making an accusation, she was indulging in a bit of imaginative thought. Notice she says she like the South Dakotans a lot. Irony a little? Lighten up, she is trying to approach a sensitive subject with bait of humor and playfulness.
durablend
(7,460 posts)CLEARLY everyone ELSE is racist for even thinking the people on the cruise are racist!
Nitram
(22,822 posts)Caity has a great sense of humor, and quite a bit of insight. Not nasty at all, but a few good questions are delicately raised.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)After signing the Civil Rights Act, LBJ said that the Democratic Party would lose the South for a generation.
THAT generation is OVER.
Thanks to the Internet and Sat TV,
the monopoly over the minds of the children once held by Preachers and Parents has been broken.
The younger generations are Plugged In, and the old prejudices born of ignorance and isolation are retreating.
Still a long way to go, but after moving to the Deep Red Rural South in 2006, I have been pleasantly surprised by how open minded the kids are compared to 30 years ago.
The Old South is Ripe-for-the-Picking if the Democratic Party would spend some money down here.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)The comments were so overrun by racist trolls that they had to cut them off.