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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:04 AM Feb 2014

Hungary's anti-Semitic Jobbik party holds rally in ex-synagogue

Disgusting. National "values and interests". Codespeak for fascist bigots everywhere. It would seem there is a resurgence of jackboots across Europe, to add to our own. It frightens me to see the rising level to which they feel so emboldened. Will the world never learn?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26201010
BBC News
14 February 2014 Last updated at 17:45 ET
Hungary's Jobbik party holds rally in ex-synagogue

Hungary's far-right Jobbik party has sparked criticism after holding a political rally inside a former synagogue in the town of Esztergom.

Jewish groups called Friday's event "disgusting", saying it was "insulting to the memories" of Holocaust victims.

Jobbik leader Gabor Vona insisted his party did not want to "provoke anyone, including the Jewish community".

The party, which purports to protect Hungarian values and interests, is the third largest in parliament.... MORE

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Hungary's anti-Semitic Jobbik party holds rally in ex-synagogue (Original Post) theHandpuppet Feb 2014 OP
Well, now I know how to say Republican in Hungarian. The deputy group leader, okaawhatever Feb 2014 #1
Didn't the Nazis claim the same thing? theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #2
There is a bit of poetic justice considering gays. Since it was a gay man who broke the enigma code, okaawhatever Feb 2014 #3
Making all old things new again Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #4
...and I can think of a few folks whom I "know" who quietly PCIntern Feb 2014 #5
I look at this move as a warning. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #6
Look at how these neo-Nazis are crawling out of the woodwork again theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #9
You are, sadly, 100% correct. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #12
"Right-wing populist", "anti-globalist", "anti-Semitic", "anti-elitist" pampango Feb 2014 #7
It also sounds like other extremists. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #8
Racism seems to be another common factor theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #10
It is almost always the two same groups, Jews and immigrants! Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #11
Jobbik are loathsome LeftishBrit Feb 2014 #13

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
1. Well, now I know how to say Republican in Hungarian. The deputy group leader,
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:27 AM
Feb 2014

Marton Gyongyosi, caused outrage two years ago when he said officials of Jewish origin should be listed because they might be a "national security risk."

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
2. Didn't the Nazis claim the same thing?
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:39 AM
Feb 2014

This was also a charge leveled at gays, and not just by the Nazis.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
3. There is a bit of poetic justice considering gays. Since it was a gay man who broke the enigma code,
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:51 AM
Feb 2014

a game changing event and turning point in the war, it could be said that gays did pose a national security risk. In fact, one member of the gay community made you his bitch Adolph. How's that for your so-called superior race, you bigoted nazi p.o.s.? Bwaaahhh.....

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
4. Making all old things new again
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:00 PM
Feb 2014

It will spread like a virus, and people will laugh, cluck their tongues, wring their hands, but watch it nonetheless.

PCIntern

(25,556 posts)
5. ...and I can think of a few folks whom I "know" who quietly
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:07 PM
Feb 2014

nodded his or her head and thought, "Well, the day isn't all that bad."

Yeah.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
6. I look at this move as a warning.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:36 PM
Feb 2014

It is reminding us, we aren't safe. But, should we make such observations we are buying into a "culture of victimization".

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
9. Look at how these neo-Nazis are crawling out of the woodwork again
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:44 PM
Feb 2014

Hungary, Russia, France, et al... people had better start paying attention.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
12. You are, sadly, 100% correct.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:00 PM
Feb 2014

The mistakes of the past are easily re-created. There is a really good song by Paula Cole about this where she sings about haters being in plain clothes.

Hitler's Brothers

Litte boy, tries to hide,
From the fire in his backyard.
Burning cross, white cloth,
It's the second time this year.

Hitler's brothers are still alive,
They're wearing everyday disguises.

A woman runs, for asylum,
She's the only one of her kind in this neighborhood.
She knows who they were,
They don't believe a word,
The cops just turn their heads to protect their friends.

Hitler's brothers are still alive,
Their army seems to grow in size,
Hitler's brothers are on the rise,
They're wearing everyday disguises.
...In camouflage or business suits.

Another man, bound and gagged,
Tied upon the railroad tracks.
At nine p.m. the B&M (Boston & Maine)
Rolled across his yellow skin

Hitler's brothers are still alive,
Their army seems to grow in size,
Hitler's brothers are on the rise,
They're wearing everyday disguises.
In camouflage or business suits,
Checkered aprons, combat boots,

Time to let those feelings go,
Hatred only kills your souls



pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. "Right-wing populist", "anti-globalist", "anti-Semitic", "anti-elitist"
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:00 PM
Feb 2014

Kind of sounds like an off-shoot of our tea party.

Platform and ideology

Jobbik's ideology has been described by political scholars as right-wing populism, whose strategy "relies on a combination of ethno-nationalism with anti-elitist populist rhetoric and a radical critique of existing political institutions".

For its part, Jobbik rejects the common classification of the political spectrum in left and right. It prefers a distinction of political parties based on their stance towards globalisation. On this scheme, the party sees itself as patriotic. The party also rejects the term 'far-right', and instead labels itself as 'radical right-wing'. It has also criticised media companies for labelling them as 'far-right' and has threatened to take action towards those who do.

Economy

Jobbik rejects globalised capitalism, and the influence of foreign investors in Hungary. Jobbik specifically opposes Israeli and Jewish investment in Hungary.
On 4 May 2013, protesting the World Jewish Congress's choice to locate their 2013 congress in Budapest, party chairman Gabor Vona said, "The Israeli conquerors, these investors, should look for another country in the world for themselves because Hungary is not for sale."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobbik

Thanks for posting this article, theHandpuppet.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
8. It also sounds like other extremists.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:18 PM
Feb 2014

The tea party may be more organized, but extremists are just that, extremists.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
11. It is almost always the two same groups, Jews and immigrants!
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:56 PM
Feb 2014

In the past two days, Uganda and Nigeria have gone on the attack against GLBT people, mostly based on the imported hate of American right-wing Christians.

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
13. Jobbik are loathsome
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:03 PM
Feb 2014

And Hungary seems to be getting worse, not better, as regards social attitudes in general, and anti-Semitism in particular.

Interesting comments from a couple of months ago:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25450716

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