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yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:26 PM Feb 2014

KOTATSU (Staying Warm in Japan)

Last edited Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:57 PM - Edit history (1)




The modern style of kotatsu (oki-gotatsu) consists of a table with an electric heater attached to the underside of the table. This evolved from a clay pot with hot coals placed under a table. The kotatsu is usually set on a thin futon, like a throw rug. A second, thicker futon is placed over the kotatsu table, above which the tabletop is placed. The electric heater attached to the underside of the table heats the space under the comforter.





n the 21st century, the kotatsu typically consists of the electric heater attached to the frame, which is no longer limited to wood but may be made of plastic or other materials. Generally, a blanket (or shitagake) is draped over the frame and heater and under the table-top. This first blanket is covered by a second heavier blanket, known as a kotatsu-gake. Kotatsu-gake are often decorative and can be designed to match home décor. A person sits on the floor or on zabuton cushions with their legs under the table and the blanket draped over the lower body. The kotatsu was designed when people most commonly wore traditional Japanese style clothes, where the heat would enter through the bottom of the robes and exit around the neck, thus heating the entire body.




http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/the_kotatsu_a_different_way_of_thinking_about_tables_8837.asp

more...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotatsu

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KOTATSU (Staying Warm in Japan) (Original Post) yuiyoshida Feb 2014 OP
I love 'em Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #1
Its surprising people are always bringing up fires... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #3
Oh, I agree. Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #4
I don't know why people think they get so hot they yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #6
Well, for people in the USA, we have our experiences with regular truedelphi Feb 2014 #10
Maru Kitteh!! kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #31
They don't have to be hot enough to be able to cause a fire. Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #13
Lmao! HipChick Feb 2014 #14
What kind of dog is she? siligut Feb 2014 #17
She's an Alpahaha Blue Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #30
LOL! Indpndnt Feb 2014 #18
She ain't little - 92 pounds in her slimmed down state. n/t Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #19
When my husband and I moved back to the States, we got rid of ours oregonjen Feb 2014 #2
It would be great if someone could start building them here.. yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #5
I would really, really love one of those... AsahinaKimi Feb 2014 #7
Sou ka na!! yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #8
Our cats would live under there. progressoid Feb 2014 #9
Yup! yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #11
You can make a kitty kotasu with heating pad and a small table and a blanket Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #24
I've wanted to try one of those for ages cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #12
Search amazon for kotasu... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #26
Don't then have ondol (floor heat) davidpdx Feb 2014 #15
Hot carpet. Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #20
A good enough reason to work there as opposed to China. Left Coast2020 Feb 2014 #29
OK now that is cool. redqueen Feb 2014 #16
Here ya go... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #25
IIRC LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #21
Kerosene Space heaters no less...nt Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #23
Shame on you for not warning people... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #22
wouldn't it basically be the same principle if you just used an electric blanket? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #27
it's similar but I think a blanket with a lot of airspace around it. Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #28
but I mean you could use an electric blanket placed just under a table the same way VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #32
Be careful with electric blankets. peace13 Feb 2014 #33
I would think... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #34
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Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
1. I love 'em
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:28 PM
Feb 2014

I haven't had one in an age for a variety of reasons, but growing up as an anime fan (1980's Uruesi Yatsura fan!) and seeing them as a staple in so many slice of life shows, my curiosity got me in my younger days. They're definitely a great little thing. I suspect if they ever got popular here we'd see them somehow causing a million fires and accidents though.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
3. Its surprising people are always bringing up fires...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:35 PM
Feb 2014

If that were the case they would be a health hazard in Japan, but as one person was telling me the heaters are on a very low setting. Its on a frame, far away from the cloth, and provides a small amount of heat, that under the blankets keeps you very warm and snug. Its perfect, and I wish they made them here... and no, they don't need a high setting, just a low setting that is enough to provide heat to be kept under the blankets. I would love one.


Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
4. Oh, I agree.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:37 PM
Feb 2014

But it's what people will think of based on space heater fires that are caused regularly during the winter along the northern states. That kind of fear gets transferred onto something like this pretty easily by a lot.

There's a pretty decent selection at amazon, but of course it varies by seller and pricing as to what's really worth it.

http://www.amazon.com/YAMAZEN-BSK-75-B-Casual-Kotatsu-Japanese/dp/B005O3Z7TW

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
6. I don't know why people think they get so hot they
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:42 PM
Feb 2014


Glow like oven ranges... they don't. But you know, AMERICANS love to power up stuff...( insert Tim Allen cave man sounds..) and there is always someone who thinks they should look like oven tops...its not needed.




This one has a light inside as well:




Keeping the ladies warm!


A famous Japanese Cat loves it..

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
10. Well, for people in the USA, we have our experiences with regular
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:28 PM
Feb 2014

heaters. I had two of them catch fire within a ten month period. Even though they were Underwriter Lab certified, and both were less than 18 months old! Luckily I never leave a room where there is a portable heater going, or I might have contributed to a raging fire that destroyed the house I rented.



Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
13. They don't have to be hot enough to be able to cause a fire.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:50 PM
Feb 2014

Because the heat is kept in by the blankets (really quilts), it's a very low heat source. Just like if we go to bed under a quilt, the 93 temp on our skins gradually heats up the bed.

It's actually a very safe way to be comfortable - much safer than most space heaters. And economical.

I would only want a Japanese-made one, though. Chinese made stuff is prone to melt even when it never possibly can. I had a Verizon cable model power supply short out and cause the modem to catch fire. The dog alerted me, for which I am thankful.

The modem was smoking when the dog finally convinced me that there was a genuine problem, but the power supply was partially melted. And it was a defect in manufacture, because the power supply was plugged into a power supply strip which tested out perfectly fine in controlled circs, and which I am still using.

Ever since then I have instituted new precautions for all electronics.

PS: The dog was smug for MONTHS. She never, ever let me forget that she was right and I was wrong. This happened when my husband wasn't there, and she kept trying to make the point to him that I was a dangerous firebug. It got so bad that when I would go to cook dinner and he was there, she would race histrionically into the kitchen and stand there staring with huge eyes and flinching as if the stove were going to blow up. She only did that around my husband, though. Ratfink!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
30. She's an Alpahaha Blue
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:15 AM
Feb 2014

That's a type of bulldog that is more akin to the "old" English bulldog. They can get quite large. When she's slimmed down to her optimal state, she tips the scales at 92. For a female she's a large specimen. This is pretty much what she looks like:


Her coloration is white with a few brown spots, but otherwise she looks a lot like this one at a UK breeder:
http://www.alapahabluebloodbulldog.co.uk/eljay.htm

In our area the best ones are the not registered breeds, but the dogs still being bred on the farms as working/hunting/herding/children-herding utility dogs, because they are purely selected for temperamental characteristics, endurance. strength and good health.

They are very loyal and companionable, very affectionate and gentle with humans (although not with animals), exceedingly social and intelligent, and wish to be masters of their universe. Unlike most bulldog breeds they have a lot of endurance and agility. Mine set up an obstacle course for herself on the farm when she was young and used to run it for fun in quite hot weather.

For GA, they are great - they are far more heat tolerant than the standard English bulldogs. They have sometimes been used as stock dogs, and some of them have the herding instinct, and use it to try to herd people. They widen their eyes and stare straight into yours, which really startles people because it's a human trait. Almost all of them are very manipulative in a way similar to golden retrievers. It takes them years to finish growing - mine did not grow fully into her ribcage and muzzle until after she was three.

And good Lord, they are bossy. She likes the temps to be between 68 and 72, and informs you if her temperature range deviates indoors. She will wander around with a blanket draped over her back all day if it's chilly inside and then go out and roll in the snow if she's in the north, or lie around panting artistically alternating with coming up and woefully staring at you because it's 75, and then trot outside and sunbathe when it's in the 90s. The insistence on a certain temperature range indoors is purely harassment.

oregonjen

(3,338 posts)
2. When my husband and I moved back to the States, we got rid of ours
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:33 PM
Feb 2014

We're regretting that decision! It's terribly missed.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
5. It would be great if someone could start building them here..
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:37 PM
Feb 2014

They may not work for someone who is older and needs help getting up, but for everyone else, its a great way to keep warm and snuggly..during the winter time!

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
29. A good enough reason to work there as opposed to China.
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:08 AM
Feb 2014

Had hard time staying warm there--in the North that is.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
21. IIRC
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:30 PM
Feb 2014

Part of the reason they are so popular in Japan as opposed to here is that the average Japanese household has no central heating/cooling/or insulation.

I believe that in addition to the Kotatsu, japanese families tend to use space heaters (especially in the north) and hot water bottles to stay warm.

I bet you could save a good amount of money here in the US if you could convince your family to use a kotatsu and turn off the heater.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
22. Shame on you for not warning people...
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:33 PM
Feb 2014

Two or more people will end up fighting over who has to leave the kotasu and go get something. They are so cozy you will not want to leave. You'll even end up taking a nap there!

I built a Kotasu for my cat using a heating pad.

You can make your own kotasu with a safe heater like an oil filled one. A table, A blanket and on top a board. It's pretty basic.

I mostly use hot carpet.

Stay warm

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
28. it's similar but I think a blanket with a lot of airspace around it.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:54 PM
Feb 2014

They are also nice as communal spaces that go well with some hot sake or sochu.

Kinda like sitting around the campfire.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
32. but I mean you could use an electric blanket placed just under a table the same way
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:46 AM
Feb 2014

and achieve the same effect.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
33. Be careful with electric blankets.
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 10:01 AM
Feb 2014

I think most instructions say not to set/ sit anything on top of them!

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
34. I would think...
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:11 PM
Feb 2014

placing an electric heater under a blanket would be just as dangerous if not more than an electric blanket...

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