Pesticides are designed to kill and because their mode of action is not specific to one species, they often kill or harm organisms other than pests, including humans.



http://www.toxipedia.org/display/toxipedia/Effects+of+Pesticides+on+Human+Health

Well, except me and anybody with a half a brain who is unclouded by greed.

who keep telling us organics are no better than pesticide laden food.

Industrial Ag is (R) and Big GMO Inc is also (R) then why are so many with D's after their names supporting them?

Including the current occupant of the Oval Office.

And it is not just that Obama supports both Big Ag and Big GmO, he made totally disastrous appointments to the FDA while his wife was out planting her organic garden in the Rose Garden.
By appointing Mike Taylor to head that department at the FDA, Obama ensured that we activists would watch Big Ag and Big GM get bigger and bigger.

For more on Mike Taylor, here's a decent link:

www.foodpolitics.com/tag/michael-taylor/

Not only that, but two summers back, when activists convinced Tom Vilsack, who heads Department of Agriculture, that GM alfalfa should require a designated buffer zone, and Vilsack agreed, Obama immediately sent ten people from the WH over to twist Vilsack's arm into realizing that he either collude with industry and ignore activists desire to have that buffer zone, or else start looking for a different line of work.

...with the continuing fiddling while Rome/Earth burns.

But there are the intermittent nice speeches!

But I do wish they would point out that real salt is not unhealthy and the body needs it for minerals. Excellent info otherwise.

Great work on this thread!

Sodium is a metal. Salt is an ionic compound made up of 1 sodium atom and 1 chlorine atom.

Don't let yourself be SUCKERED by the onslaught of corporately funded attacks on clean food. If you eat gobs of toxic fungicide, herbicide and pesticide residue year after year after year, it builds up in your body. Eventually, like any polluted system, it will break down. It may take time, but the corporate industrial chemicals designed to kill will eventually fulfill their purpose.

All non-naturally occurring pesticides, fertilizers, herbicides, GM crops & seeds are forever banned from our little hilltop.
Planting Broccoli, Spinach, Peas, Lettuce, and maybe some Pontiac Reds tomorrow.

So far, so good.

They probably consider the human race a cancer killing a beautiful planet.

So it's no surprise at the regular recurrence of the dutiful poo-flinging by them....

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Presumably, shills don't like to be named as such...

I WISH they would learn that you cannot cry wolf when you ARE a wolf!

...under this "change-filled" administration!

Scientific Materialist Lynch Mob, Inc. (R). They lurk, waiting to strike.

Watch what happens when you show any evidence that there SciFi solutions have numerous problems. Suddenly all the supposed "pro-science evidence based" stuff goes out the window, and they fall back on name calling to avoid the facts at hand.

With skin that thin, they'd damn sure better stay away from pesticides themselves.

...yet get apoplectic if a mirror is ever turned back in their direction...

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I guess the copouts abound!

the chemical "science" types can dish it out but they can't take it.

It's a pretty classic example of the "shill fallacy" or "poisoning the well." It's not about a specific individual, which is probably the main reason it was allowed to stand.

Human beings are crazy

So what's the Berlum solution to practically maintain crop yields without pesticides and fungicides?

On Sunday I read an OP on DU attacking organic food, and I regarded that posting as highly flawed and suspect, one of a recurring series of assaults on sustainability. So I posted the OP for this thread as a counter balance, and to set the record straight.

As for solutions to the vast, pervasive chemical contamination of our water, our food, our air and our bodies, the world is full of them. Search engines truly are your friend in that regard. Anyone seeking clean, sustainable ways to produce food will find a rich and empowering heap of proven models and resources.

The corporate opposition to these solutions - with misleading agitprop -- in order to maintain control of the food system and a ferocious, fear-driven grasp on PROFITS is, in my view, pervasive, pernicious, and anti-life. It must be challenged.

...that so systematically trashes sustainable solutions.

I'm not one who can stand by silently while bullshit is being sold, whether that's happening overtly or occultly (R).

yet I have yet to hear of any solutions.

Sure there's strategies farmers can use like companion planting to reduce the use of fertilizers, but nothing that wholesale eliminates the need for chemicals and genetic modification necessary for practical large scale farming.

This "sustainable solutions" is only as useful as the warm fuzzy feelings it induces.

No need for me to try and educate you about sustainable ways to grow clean food. The models are out there in plain sight for anyone who wants to learn or get involved. But that's not what this thread it about. It's about countering the Polluting BS, Inc., and I'm not about to be diverted to meet any one person's educational needs, or do their research for them.

If you sincerely want to learn, you might consider actually doing a little research, or starting your own thread on that topic.

I did plenty of research when I majored in horticulture. Your reticence is only proof that A) there is no sustainable solution, B) you don't believe in the woo enough to evangelize for it, or c) you're joshing us.

Either way this 'sustainable solution' is merely a tepid fart in the wind.

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Please do start a thread about sustainable, clean farming. That would be great. In the right place.

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Can you at least tell us what you're smoking?

I'd hate to miss out on the good stuff

Poisoning the food supply could cause health problems.

Poisoning our soil could cause health problems.

Poisoning our water could cause health problems.

Poisoning our air could cause health problems.

Poisoning people could cause health problems.

Poisoning our animals could cause health problems.

board encourage people to buy and eat pesticide laden food where both the pesticides and food are produced by big agribusiness, snd try to discourage people from eating food that is grown without being sprayed with chemical pesticides, herbicides, or fungicides, has no poisons on it, and that is generally produced on small family farms.

What is wrong with this picture, and what do these posters have to gain by encouraging people to buy and eat pesticide laden foods produced by big agribusiness?

Recommend.

were based on Chemicals used in WWII.

Organic...farmers....use...pesticides..too

They just have a silly belief where their combinations of carbon, nitrogen and phosphate are magical and special and not at all like other combinations of carbon, nitrogen and phosphate.

Not.......always

Toxicity, LD50, MED, and half life don't care how the bonds between the atoms were made.

It's important that people know about the dangers of synthetic chemical pesticides. You are doing a fabulous job.

Hydrogen and Oxygen can make water, or hydrogen peroxide, both made up of hydrogen and oxygen, and it isn't magical that they make two different things.

Or similar that is dumped in South America and used as a defoliant.

It's not just happening here.

in our area were almost expected to die of cancer.

Or something else?