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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPetra Nemcova, on with Ari Melber (MSNBC) now, wants to know why the SI cover is covered...
[div style="float:left;margin-right:20px;"][img][/img]You may remember that Ms. Nemcova is the supermodel who clung to the top of a tree, saving her own life (and then helping others) while the life of her boyfriend was being taken by the Sumatran tsunami on Boxing Day in 2004.
She was just on MSNBC with Ari Melber who gestured toward an image on a nearby monitor of the current SI Swimsuit issue featuring three topless models (there backs to the camera). The MSNBC peeps apparently thought the cover was NSFW and used a big red graphical ribbon to cover the models. As Ari began to ask his question, Petra interrupted him him and asked "Why is that ribbon there?" and Ari answered "For modesty." Petra repsponded "For modesty? Hmmm, ok..."
[div style="float:right;margin-left:20px;"][img][/img]Apparently, Ms Nemcova thought it was very curious and peculiar that the image was obscured.
Ms. Nemcova is quite the philanthropist. She has been working to build schools with the organization she started after the tsunami called the Happy Hearts Fund which is a non-profit foundation dedicated to rebuilding schools and restoring hope and opportunity in the lives of children after natural disasters.
From their website: "Happy Hearts Fund was founded by Petra Nemcova in 2005 to restore hope and opportunities to children affected by the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami; it received its 501(c)(3) status in 2006 with the vision of rebuilding schools and the lives of children after natural disasters. Happy Hearts Fund was structured so all administrative costs would be underwritten, thereby ensuring 100 percent of all donations received would be directed to children's programming."
Very nice work by Ms. Nemcova and a very nice direction for her life after such a close call in Thailand 10 years ago.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)something that this is not.
You know that's not what I meant.
Do you have a comment about what Ms. Nemcova is doing with her philanthropic activities or her curiosity of American prudishness?
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)And (now that you've re-read it) you understand its confusing tone. Hence my question.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)What is there to cover up?
Women can't be athletes and nice looking at the same time?
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...ESPN Magazine was able to depict even less-dressed (that is, nude) beautiful people, albeit in a less cheesecake-y and more artistic way, and use real athletes. Why not SI? I guess they're too invested in that whole supermodel thing...
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)----and do it artistically...
These people look deformed--I think they mixed and matched butts or distorted the photo...so the women look like flamingos
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)do not see any issue with the cover, go to the beach. I guess we need to cover the kids eyes at the beach also.
I am glad she bounced back after that Indian Ocean Tsunami. Sorry for her loss and she is now doing outstanding work.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)As to her finding it peculiar that the image was obscured, what did she say in that regard? Did she call Americans prudish, or is that your editorial comment?
Like it or not we live in a culture that still expects that "modesty" edit on news shows, on daytime programming, etc. She may be from a culture where that is not true, or may not adhere to that modesty standard herself. Big whoop. The real issue was discussing the SI swimsuit issue, wasn't it?
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)offered only what I saw and no editorial opinion except where I said that it is nice work that she is doing. If you have a problem with my report of this interview, perhaps there will be video later you can watch.
For someone with an accusatory tone, you sure are making your share of inferences.
ETA: Here, have another Valentine's Heart. Maybe it'll help you chill out.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)If that was not an editorial opinion on your part, what did she say that led you to report it that way? Did she say it was 'curious and peculiar?'
As for asking you questions about the point of your OP (in "an accusatory tone," LOL): the OP seems to be a comment on the SI cover and her appearance on MSNBC, yet there are extraneous bio details about Nemcova which apparently mean something to you with regard to that appearance. What, exactly?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)at a beach during the summer. Some very small bikinis that might offend a person, must not show it.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)If you lived in the U.S, you'd know that. U.S. news shields viewers from lots of images, like the bodies of dead Americans after natural disasters. In some countries that's not the case. If you read what I wrote above, that's all it says: in the U.S. this is the cultural expectation, that certain images aren't used by certain media. Whether either of us think that has merit is a different question.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Her 'Happy Hearts Fund' sounds like an excellent organization. Good for her.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)has to do with sports...SI is SPORTS Illustrated after all...I've always found that baffling, until you consider this is one of their highest sellers of the year.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)about stuff like this. I wonder/worry if I'm going to live in a cardboard fridge box when I get old. I worry about the poor people that come to the food pantry. I worry about the woman downstairs that is on a transitioning path right now.
I don't worry about women that are highly paid models. I worry about Roe v. Wade, Planned Parenthood, accessible birth control, AIDS patients, cancer patients.......
I'm sorry but OMG BATHING SUITS!1 PRETTY GIRLS!!1 is low on my list of priorities. I'm sure this will piss off a bunch of people, but....
I worry about all of those things right along with you. These days long battles over what a woman chooses to do with her own body that might offend someone always have me wondering just how much time could be spent actually doing something for the women you speak of above. Seems like a lot of people here have had a very fulfilling weekend lecturing and hyper-ventilating over a lil' bit of skin, though.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)It's not about sports, but about selling magazines. This particular issue of SI, I mean.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)who follow sports...SI knows who their base it.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)I was with the man I loved, the man who had asked me to marry him, and it was the day after Christmas and we were packing from the most beautiful holiday in Thailand. We had just come back to our room after a walk on the beach. Everything was wonderful. The only different thing was that the sea had pulled right back off the beach which seemed strange, but nothing like a sign of what was going to happen. Then there were shouts from the beach and I looked out of the window and there was just a wall of water. It crashed through the bungalow; there was black water, broken glass everywhere. My last memory of Simon is seeing him on the bungalow roof and thinking: Hes a better swimmer than me, hell be OK. I heard him shout my name and I shouted his name and then I was out in the water, clinging to a roof seeing nothing but water.
I thought I was going to die but I still have strange memories of bliss of the tsunami.
After the first wave hit, there was a second wave and I was in the water. I felt myself starting to swallow the water and I knew this was the moment my life was going to end. It was actually a moment of pure bliss. I totally let go of any worries, any thoughts; I just accepted this was it. I felt weightless in the water and completely at peace. Then the water just as quickly pulled away and I opened my eyes to see bright blue sky. In a split second my brain clicked back into survival mode. As I was being dragged I knew I had to find something to cling on to, so I grabbed at a tree. I remained in that tree conscious and unconscious for the next eight hours.
I survived by rescuing a crab.
I was in total agony and blacking out every now and again. But I tried to remain focused. The most heart-breaking sounds were cries of children all around me. I couldnt get to any of them and then the cries would stop. I could only move with my arms because my pelvis was broken and when the water subsided I was screaming in pain; when the water came back it relieved the pain. Then I saw a crab in the water, I pulled it out and kept in on the tree; I kept it from moving off the tree, I watched it, I guarded it, I spoke to it. I wanted to be able to feel like I was protecting something else. It sounds strange but it kept me calm.
...
The worst tragedies bring out the greatest kindness in other people.
After the tsunami had subsided in 2004, a Thai man came over to me. I was completely naked in the debris because every shred of my clothing had been torn away. He was wearing a bathing suit with shorts. In the midst of this absolute devastation, his first thought was to remove his shorts and try and put them on me to cover me. I was crying and laughing at the same time but also screaming out in pain because he then tried to put me on his back and it was just too painful. He gestured to me that he would be back. He returned with more rescuers. In the hospital the morphine had run out in the first hour. I sat there next to an old man who was wearing nothing but a chain around his neck with a tiny image of a Buddha. When he saw me he took it off his neck and gave it to me for luck. These acts of kindness became the inspiration for my Happy Hearts Fund, which has grown bigger and bigger and helps in every country where disaster has torn lives apart.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2051340/Petra-Nemcova-When-I-knew-life-going-end-moment-pure-bliss.