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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 03:20 AM Feb 2014

Snowden Documents Reveal Covert Surveillance & Pressure Tactics Aimed at WikiLeaks & Its Supporters

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/02/18/snowden-docs-reveal-covert-surveillance-and-pressure-tactics-aimed-at-wikileaks-and-its-supporters/

Top-secret documents from the National Security Agency and its British counterpart reveal for the first time how the governments of the United States and the United Kingdom targeted WikiLeaks and other activist groups with tactics ranging from covert surveillance to prosecution.

The efforts – detailed in documents provided previously by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden – included a broad campaign of international pressure aimed not only at WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, but at what the U.S. government calls “the human network that supports WikiLeaks.” The documents also contain internal discussions about targeting the file-sharing site Pirate Bay and hacktivist collectives such as Anonymous.

One classified document from Government Communications Headquarters, Britain’s top spy agency, shows that GCHQ used its surveillance system to secretly monitor visitors to a WikiLeaks site. By exploiting its ability to tap into the fiber-optic cables that make up the backbone of the Internet, the agency confided to allies in 2012, it was able to collect the IP addresses of visitors in real time, as well as the search terms that visitors used to reach the site from search engines like Google.

Another classified document from the U.S. intelligence community, dated August 2010, recounts how the Obama administration urged foreign allies to file criminal charges against Assange over the group’s publication of the Afghanistan war logs.
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Snowden Documents Reveal Covert Surveillance & Pressure Tactics Aimed at WikiLeaks & Its Supporters (Original Post) Luminous Animal Feb 2014 OP
^ Wilms Feb 2014 #1
This is Nixon. This is Nixon all the way. bemildred Feb 2014 #2
K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #3
Kick Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #4
Wait, ProSense Feb 2014 #5
You should have a doctor check out that knee. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #7
This is primarily who "anti-terrorist" powers will always be aimed at. Marr Feb 2014 #6
Not only targeting Assange and those active in wikileaks but Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #10
+10000000 woo me with science Feb 2014 #13
Democracy Now: Assange on being placed on U.S. 'manhunting' list Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #8
Were they declared a "malicious foreign actor" or was it just considered? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #9
The manhunt timeline and the malicious actor designation are 2 separate things. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #14
So that would be a "no?" Given Assange's association with Manning and Israel Shamir, I msanthrope Feb 2014 #18
In other words, you got nothin' but 3 year old discredited smears. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #19
Not discredited...they formed the basis for Manning's convictions. Each allegation was msanthrope Feb 2014 #21
I said smears plural includes both. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #22
Wait, what? Each and every allegation regarding Manning I listed was proven msanthrope Feb 2014 #23
That was a try. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #29
Ugh. So they're "manhunting" Assange like they are AQ terrorists??!! riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #11
When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, woo me with science Feb 2014 #15
DU had many Wikileaks supporters who not only donated but were checking KoKo Feb 2014 #12
I seriously doubt that anything has been stopped hootinholler Feb 2014 #24
Michael Ratner on Democracy Now Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #16
We the people are damn scary nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #17
The ACLU Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #20
Kick Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #25
Kick. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #26
Kick. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #27
Who has been prosecuted for what? treestar Feb 2014 #28
Manning and Snowden...but that won't stop Julian Assange from latching on to them.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #30

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. This is Nixon. This is Nixon all the way.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:50 AM
Feb 2014

Do you see the fear of the internet? The fear of the people? Anybody who speaks up?

Just a general "file criminal charges"", anything will do.

And all the denials.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Wait,
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:36 AM
Feb 2014

"Snowden Documents Reveal Covert Surveillance and Pressure Tactics Aimed at WikiLeaks and Its Supporters"

...who knew that the governments were trying to shut down Wikileaks? News to me.


Julian Sanchez, a research fellow at the Cato Institute who specializes in surveillance issues, says the revelations shed a disturbing light on the NSA’s willingness to sweep up American citizens in its surveillance net.

“All the reassurances Americans heard that the broad authorities of the FISA Amendments Act could only be used to ‘target’ foreigners seem a bit more hollow,” Sanchez says, “when you realize that the ‘foreign target’ can be an entire Web site or online forum used by thousands if not millions of Americans.”

Yeah, Glenn's a fan of the Cato Institute. More hyperbolic BS.



 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
6. This is primarily who "anti-terrorist" powers will always be aimed at.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:47 AM
Feb 2014

Political dissidents and leakers. Governments-- particularly corrupt governments that just service a tiny plutocracy-- view these types as the real threat.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
10. Not only targeting Assange and those active in wikileaks but
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:32 PM
Feb 2014

their 'human network'. Those who accessed the wikileaks website which includes me and millions of other people.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
8. Democracy Now: Assange on being placed on U.S. 'manhunting' list
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:25 PM
Feb 2014
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/14207

AMY GOODMAN: Another document reveals the NSA considered designating WikiLeaks as a "malicious foreign actor."

…...

When you read this, Julian — welcome back to Democracy Now! — what were your thoughts on being put on this "manhunting"—their words—"manhunting" list together with al-Qaeda?

JULIAN ASSANGE: Good morning, Amy.

Well, my first thought was, well, finally, we have some proof that we can present to the public for what we have long suspected for a variety of reasons. And it is strange to see your name in that context with people who are suspected of serious criminal acts of terrorism. Clearly, that is a massive overstep.

We’ve heard a lot in the propaganda pushed on this issue by Clapper and others in the U.S. national security complex that, of course, this pervasive surveillance is justified by the need to stop U.S.—stop terrorist attacks being conducted on the United States and its allies. But we’ve seen example after example come out over the last few months showing the National Security Agency and its partners, GCHQ, engaged in economic espionage.

And here we have an example where the type of espionage being engaged in is spying on a publisher—WikiLeaks, the publishing organization, and a publisher—me, personally. And the other material that came out in relation to GCHQ was from 2012, and that shows that GCHQ was spying on our service and our readers, so not just the publisher as an organization, not just the publisher as a person, but also the readers of a publisher. And that’s clearly, I believe, not something that the United States population agrees with, let alone other people.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
14. The manhunt timeline and the malicious actor designation are 2 separate things.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:50 PM
Feb 2014

The docs indicate a manhunt. And the docs indicate that the government discussed designating him as a malicious actor. No definitive answer whether they did or not. That is why we conduct investigations.

You could read the article.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
18. So that would be a "no?" Given Assange's association with Manning and Israel Shamir, I
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:03 PM
Feb 2014

happen to think that's exactly what he should be designated.

Specifically, Assange's work with Manning went beyond journalism.....



After February 11: Unauthorized software on SIPRNET; the Collateral Murder, Rejkjavik-13 cable, and Defense Intelligence documents

Then, remember, Manning came to the US in January to February 2010. Adrian Lamo has long alleged that Manning got help from some folks in Boston. The timeline shows Manning returned to Iraq on February 11, which also happens to be the first date Manning is alleged to have put the first of two unauthorized pieces of software onto SIPRNET.

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/03/05/a-narrative-chronology-of-bradley-mannings-alleged-leaks/


Manning performed searches on behalf of Assange--

During the course of the government’s direct examination of Fulton, prosecuting attorney Capt. Ashden Fein asked Fulton if, in the course of his work, Manning had a need to conduct searches on SIPRnet for certain keywords – “GITMO SOP,” “Julian Assange,” “WikiLeaks” — or whether he had reason to visit a specific part of the CENTCOM web site. Fulton replied “no” in all cases.

Another witness, fellow intelligence analyst Sgt. Chad Madaras, was later asked similar questions. Madaras and Manning shared computers at Forward Operating Base Hammer in Iraq, where they were deployed together. Madaras worked the day shift, and Manning mostly served on the night shift.

The government asked if Madaras had ever used their computers to search for some of the same terms, as well as the term “JTF GITMO” or the name “Birgitta Jonsdottir,” or if he had ever used the Net Centric Diplomacy Database. Madaras replied “no” in each case.

The implication of the questioning seemed to be that the government had found forensic evidence that Manning’s workstation computers had been used to search these terms, though there was no testimony that stated this directly.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/manning-apache-video/


Understand that this search of Jonsdottir happened AFTER she was editing the Collateral Murder video, and BEFORE this was known to the public...in other words, Bradley Manning didn't pull these search terms out of his ass.



And asked Assange for help in cracking military codes...


In another chat, dated March 8, 2010, Manning asked “Nathaniel Frank,” believed to be Assange, about help in cracking the main password on his classified SIPRnet computer so that he could log on to it anonymously. He asked “Frank” if he had experience cracking IM NT hashes (presumably it’s a mistype and he meant NTLM for the Microsoft NT LAN Manager). “Frank” replied yes, that they had “rainbow tables” for doing that. Manning then sent him what looked like a hash.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/army-manning-hearing/#more-35191?tw_p=twt


As for Mr. Shamir, I think that anti-Semitic fascist's dealings are reprehensible:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/09/20129410312450511.html

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
19. In other words, you got nothin' but 3 year old discredited smears.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:26 PM
Feb 2014

Gotta give you credit for tenacity!

Well, back to my day job. Excuse me while I go artificially inseminate some cows.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
21. Not discredited...they formed the basis for Manning's convictions. Each allegation was
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:37 PM
Feb 2014

proven true, beyond a reasonable doubt, and thus Manning was convicted on the corresponding counts.

Sadly...it was only Manning who paid the price for doing Assange's web searches and the like.

I note you avoided Israel Shamir...because having a vicous anti-Semite as your bosom buddy, defender, and employee is indefensible.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
23. Wait, what? Each and every allegation regarding Manning I listed was proven
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:52 PM
Feb 2014

BRD, and formed the basis of conviction on several counts.

You aren't saying I am smearing Israel Shamir, are you? Dear sweet Jeebus...don't tell me you are defending that person.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
12. DU had many Wikileaks supporters who not only donated but were checking
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:44 PM
Feb 2014

the documents. I had thought about donating to Wikileaks myself and I remember going over there to read some of the revelations recommended in DU posts.

How many of us who checked out Wikileaks are now in the data base of NSA as "suspects" to be monitored. I ended up not donating but what if I had donated using my credit card. Since I know I went over there a few times to read their document releases wouldn't that also put me in their data base. What about DU as a Website who had posters linking to Wikileaks? Would that mean that all posters here who logged in using a link from DU make DU or Daily Kos or other Website subject to surveillance?

These new revelations are very disturbing in that these programs are ongoing and not just old Bush era spying that some claim has been discontinued by the Obama administration. I doubt anything has been discontinued but has only morphed into ever more intrusive and complicated surveillance programs that can be covered up with clever words/twisted language from James Clapper, DiFi and others.

The whole article with new documented revelations and Assange's lawyer's reply is worth the long read.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
24. I seriously doubt that anything has been stopped
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 03:00 PM
Feb 2014

Even if the White House was told it stopped.

That's what happens when you allow your DNI to lie to congress without any consequences.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
16. Michael Ratner on Democracy Now
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:59 PM
Feb 2014

MICHAEL RATNER: Well, what I was really shocked by was the extent the U.S. and U.K. have gone through to try and get and destroy WikiLeaks and Julian Assange and their network of supporters. I mean, it’s astounding. And it’s been going on for years. And it also, as Julian pointed out, tells us why he is in the Ecuadorean embassy and why Ecuador has given him asylum. He has every reason to heavily fear what would happen to him in this country, in the United States, if he were to be ever taken here. So I think, for me, that’s a very, very critical point, justifies every reason why Ecuador gave him asylum.

And the document you’re addressing, Amy, what they call the manhunt timeline, which is extraordinary because it groups him among, you know, a whole bunch of people who the U.S. considers terrorists, it also, interestingly, groups them—groups them among Palestinians, which is pretty interesting in itself. But to have Julian on that list as a manhunt timeline, and it says prosecute him wherever you can get him, is pretty extraordinary. It doesn’t say you necessarily need a good reason to prosecute him; it just says, basically, prosecute him. And what it’s reminiscent, to me, is of the program that took place in this country in the '60s and the ’70s, COINTELPRO, counterintelligence procedures, when the FBI said, "We have to basically destroy the black civil rights movement, the New Left and others, and prosecute them, get them however you can, get rid of them." And so, the manhunt timeline, even its name is chilling. But that's what it is. It’s an effort to try and get WikiLeaks and their personnel, wherever they are in the world.

http://m.democracynow.org/stories/14207

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
20. The ACLU
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:36 PM
Feb 2014

“This is a very troubling report,” said Jameel Jaffer, American Civil Liberties Union deputy legal director. “Publishers who disclose abuses of government power should not be subjected to invasive surveillance for having done so, and individuals should not be swept up into surveillance dragnets simply because they’ve visited websites that report on those abuses. Further, the United States should not be urging allied countries to pursue prosecutions that would be unconstitutional if undertaken here at home.”

https://www.aclu.org/national-security-technology-and-liberty/us-and-uk-targeted-wikileaks-surveillance-and-political

treestar

(82,383 posts)
28. Who has been prosecuted for what?
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 06:31 PM
Feb 2014

Lots of conclusion without underlying support. Meaning that these conclusions may be exaggerated just like everything else on this topic.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
30. Manning and Snowden...but that won't stop Julian Assange from latching on to them....
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 08:02 AM
Feb 2014

Britain's Labour party isn't going to be any more kind to the bail jumpet, and his time in the embassy grows short.

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