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OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:31 PM Feb 2014

10 Dangerous Anti-Abortion Bills That Are Already Gaining Traction This Year

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/02/18/3299871/terrible-abortion-bills/

Less than two months into 2014, state legislatures are already busy crafting new attacks on reproductive health. The last three years have brought a record-breaking number of state-level restrictions on abortion, and lawmakers show no signs of letting up. In fact, abortion opponents in some states are simply getting more creative, using new language to ban the procedure and coming up with new ways to punish doctors. Here are the most problematic bills currently up for consideration:

1. Alabama is attempting to ban abortions after just six weeks.

Alabama lawmakers are preparing to hold a hearing on an abortion bill that would ban the procedure after a heartbeat can be detected — which can occur as early as six weeks into a pregnancy. So-called “heartbeat” bills are so radical that they divide the anti-choice community. Last year, North Dakota become the first state to pass one, and that measure is currently blocked from taking effect because it violates Roe v. Wade. Proponents of heartbeat bills typically don’t mince words about their desire to prevent women from having abortions. “It’s no secret that I’m against abortion, and that’s why I support the bill,” Rep. Becky Nordgren (R), one of the co-sponsors of Alabama’s bill, noted this week.

2. South Dakota may ban most abortions and threaten doctors with life in prison.

Proposed legislation in South Dakota could end up having a similar effect as a heartbeat bill, threatening to ban abortion after just seven weeks. The bill in question would “prohibit the dismemberment or decapitation of certain living unborn children,” vague language that could end up having far-reaching implications for abortion care in the state. “It looks like it’s trying to ban abortion using language that is completely unfamiliar and very inflammatory,” Elizabeth Nash, the states issues manager for the Guttmacher Institute, told the Huffington Post. Doctors in violation of the proposed measure could face life in prison.

3. Oklahoma wants to follow in Texas’ footsteps and shut down abortion clinics.

This past summer, a harsh anti-abortion law in Texas captured national headlines after it forced dozens of clinics in the state to close. Now, Oklahoma is hoping to follow Texas’ lead. The two states are practically tripping over to see which one can make it the hardest to access abortion. Even though Oklahoma already has a law that imposes stringent restrictions on abortion providers, the proposed bill would tighten those restrictions even further to bring them in line with Texas’ law. It was approved by a Senate panel on Monday.
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10 Dangerous Anti-Abortion Bills That Are Already Gaining Traction This Year (Original Post) OregonBlue Feb 2014 OP
Tansy, Pennyroyal and Blue Cohosh Aerows Feb 2014 #1
While that's true, those don't always work and in many states now, it would be illegal to use those OregonBlue Feb 2014 #2
I could actaully foresee the day... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #37
Maybe some day women in this country will realize what's being done to them. sinkingfeeling Feb 2014 #3
My thoughts also, Dan Patrick-R TX is proud he has saved 15,000 lives with hos sonogram bill. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #5
Dan Patrick is a chancre on the butt of Texas... ananda Feb 2014 #28
Thanks for posting this theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #4
Kicking theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #6
Thongs and Space Boobs are more fun. WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #13
This thread would get more attention if it had a picture of a scantily-clad model in it. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #7
I guess it's too bad women aren't puppies or giraffes, either theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #18
What is it you'd like? I think it's a given what the essential DU position on choice is. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #36
you appear to be holding yourself to a lower standard than you hold others to... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #40
You're welcome to think whatever you're compelled to. I think this is an important issue. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #41
K & R historylovr Feb 2014 #9
Another kick theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #10
kick Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #11
Two threads on T&A, 800+ posts. One real world threat to women's rights, 10 posts. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #12
Yep. theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #16
Why don't they just pass a bill saying anyone who preforms an abortion goes to jail for life. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #14
Legal challenges to HHS contraception mandate: a scorecard theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #19
Where is the "scorecard"? (nt) Control-Z Feb 2014 #22
Is the link not working for you? theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #24
DU Rec Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #20
K&R Small Accumulates Feb 2014 #21
Weren't there something like 600+ in 2013? MadrasT Feb 2014 #23
I think the RW is in full-out desperation assault mode theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #25
It's almost like they're desperately trying to get this stuff IBTL Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #29
I guess you're more optimistic than I am theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #31
I don't doubt that it will take a long time to clean up the right-wing mess in our country Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #38
Kick historylovr Feb 2014 #26
These Five States Have Spent More Than $3 Million Defending Anti-Abortion Laws theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #27
Here's a related article... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #30
Another article, from Texas... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #32
A lot of women don't even know they're pregnant at 6 weeks gollygee Feb 2014 #33
Oh yes, and I'm sure that's the point theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #34
That's exactly what they want. laundry_queen Feb 2014 #43
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Fight back and donate, please! theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #35
I think I'll post a photo of some young starlet's boobs Quantess Feb 2014 #39
k&r HappyMe Feb 2014 #42
These fucking people. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #44
They missed the best one, still here in Oklahoma: KatyaR Feb 2014 #45
What... The... Fuck!!!???? theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #46
ugh! 93-0??? nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #47

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
2. While that's true, those don't always work and in many states now, it would be illegal to use those
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:35 PM
Feb 2014

to bring about an abortion.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
37. I could actaully foresee the day...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:06 AM
Feb 2014

... when women will be dragged through the courts to prove they had a miscarriage and be faced with prison terms.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
3. Maybe some day women in this country will realize what's being done to them.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:47 PM
Feb 2014

Why can't I sue a doctor for emotional distress for having been forced to endure labor if I can sue years after having an abortion? I just wish these people had the same amount of concern for those already born as they do for embryos.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. My thoughts also, Dan Patrick-R TX is proud he has saved 15,000 lives with hos sonogram bill.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:14 PM
Feb 2014

My question is how much has he done on getting health care to those 15,000. Instead of sonogram for pregnant women, healthcare for all.

ananda

(28,866 posts)
28. Dan Patrick is a chancre on the butt of Texas...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:24 AM
Feb 2014

... with apologies to all chancres for the comparison.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
13. Thongs and Space Boobs are more fun.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:10 AM
Feb 2014

DU doesn't seem too interested in WV's chemical spills, or NC's coal ash, either. I don't remember "the olden days" quite this bad, with GD turned into another Lounge.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. This thread would get more attention if it had a picture of a scantily-clad model in it.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:55 PM
Feb 2014

Which is a sad commentary on all the DU factions, I suppose.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
8. I guess it's too bad women aren't puppies or giraffes, either
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:58 PM
Feb 2014

We could sustain this thread for days.

Oh, don't think I haven't noticed how these topics sink like a stone on DU. I'm sure there are others like yourself who've noticed as well.

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #7)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. you appear to be holding yourself to a lower standard than you hold others to...
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 04:34 PM
Feb 2014

What then is the precise and relevant amount of attention it should get; and on what objective measure is that number based on?

Else I'm compelled to think you are simply continuing those same threads you so decisively sneer at in this one, in other words-- you appear to be holding yourself to a lower standard than you hold others to.

Though I realize both the ethical and the mental convenience of that behavior (some may call it hypocrisy, but I'm sure you'll rationalize it otherwise, yes?), it certainly doesn't speak well to the courage of one's own convictions...

Response to theHandpuppet (Reply #15)

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #12)

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
14. Why don't they just pass a bill saying anyone who preforms an abortion goes to jail for life.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:18 AM
Feb 2014

However, I thought with Roe vs Wade we had a right to abortion. What the hell went wrong? Damn Right to Lifers.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
23. Weren't there something like 600+ in 2013?
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:56 AM
Feb 2014

It's horrifying.

Really, really sick of people trying to legislate women's wombs.

We are not brood mares.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
25. I think the RW is in full-out desperation assault mode
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:12 PM
Feb 2014

And the targets are women and LGBTs. Look at the blitzkrieg of proposed legislation under the code phrase "religious liberty". Religious liberty my ass. They just want the right to oppress whomever they please.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
29. It's almost like they're desperately trying to get this stuff IBTL
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:31 AM
Feb 2014

Of course, most (if not all of it) is going to be repealed down the road or struck down in the courts, so they are fighting a losing battle to demographics.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
31. I guess you're more optimistic than I am
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:37 AM
Feb 2014

The state-by-state war on reproductive choice has reached such a fever pitch and is so well funded it could be years before women's health services could be restored in some states, if at all.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
38. I don't doubt that it will take a long time to clean up the right-wing mess in our country
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:50 PM
Feb 2014

and they're still making it.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
27. These Five States Have Spent More Than $3 Million Defending Anti-Abortion Laws
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:21 AM
Feb 2014

Edited to add link:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/24/3202001/states-abortion-laws-budgets/

This article was published a few weeks ago but I thought it was a really interesting way to illustrate how some states are spending resources (and taxpayer monies) fighting reproductive choice. Perhaps such a presentation is a better way to enlighten people about how the GOP's agenda is wasting their money?

These Five States Have Spent More Than $3 Million Defending Anti-Abortion Laws
By Bryce Covert and Tara Culp-Ressler on January 24, 2014 at 12:14 pm

Five states — Idaho, Kansas, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Texas — have spent a combined $3,228,000 defending strict anti-abortion laws over the past several years. But it’s not like that money has no better purpose. Here’s a tally of what these states are spending the money to defend — and what they could get instead.

KANSAS

Kansas has spent more than $1 million to have private law firms defend anti-abortion laws enacted over the last three years, including $179,000 in attorneys’ fees and expenses for federal and state lawsuits last year.

What Kansans are getting for that money: Kansas has enacted some of the harshest anti-abortion laws in the nation, including an omnibus measure to block tax breaks for abortion providers, require doctors to tell women about the disputed link between abortion and breast cancer, and define life as beginning at conception in the state constitution. The state has also attempted to defund Planned Parenthood and restrict elective insurance coverage for abortion.

What they could get instead: After Gov. Sam Brownback (R) signed tax cuts into law, education spending was estimated to drop $216 per student on top of a $745 decline between 2008 and 2013. The state is spending so little on public education that last year a panel of state judges ruled it has to increase funding by $440 million. That million-dollar figure spent on defending anti-abortion laws could also go to restoring some programs Brownback vetoed, such as the Local Environmental Protection Program, which cost $800,000. That program helped monitor water systems, and without it state officials warned that the state could see more health problems, lawsuits, and local fees for installing septic tanks and other systems.... MORE

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
30. Here's a related article...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:33 AM
Feb 2014
Kansas abortion laws defense tops $1 million
January 22
The Associated Press

TOPEKA — Kansas has paid private law firms slightly more than $1 million to defend anti-abortion law enacted during the past three years, the attorney general's office confirmed Wednesday.

The costs include $179,000 in attorneys' fees and expenses associated with federal and state lawsuit filed over restrictions enacted last year.

Attorney General Derek Schmidt's office disclosed the figures exclusively at the request of the Associated Press as hundreds of abortion opponents gathered at the Statehouse to mark the 41st anniversary of the U.S. Supreme Court's historic Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion across the nation.

Abortion opponents have been able to enact a raft of new laws since Republican Gov. Sam Brownback took office in January 2011. He was scheduled to speak at a Statehouse rally... MORE

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/01/22/4768921/kansas-abortion-laws-defense-tops.html#storylink=cpy

And herein lies one of the biggest problems facing advocates of choice -- as anti-choice advocates and lobbyists on Capitol Hill push to eliminate any and all federal funding for contraception & abortion services/counseling, state governments have a free rein to actually spend taxpayer dollars in the millions to fight reproductive choice and to hire the best legal firms to do their bidding. The only way to fight back is to donate to those pro-choice organizations that are facing the battle for us, such as Planned Parenthood.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
32. Another article, from Texas...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:45 AM
Feb 2014
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/health/article/State-health-officials-mount-robust-defense-of-5095077.php

State health officials mount robust defense of Texas' new abortion law
Health panel mounts defense of bill, saying critics haven't proven it causes undue burden, clinic closures
By David Saleh Rauf
December 26, 2013 | Updated: December 26, 2013 8:31pm

AUSTIN - Texas health officials have a message for the more than 19,000 folks who wrote in to oppose new abortion regulations: Each individual commenter failed to show that clinics will close or that women will face an undue burden under the rules.

In what amounts to a robust defense of Texas' sweeping new abortion law, the state Health and Human Services Commission is set to publish responses to the crush of public comments it received while wrapping up the last set of regulations for House Bill 2.

Final rules go live Friday in the Texas Register to spell out how the state will implement a portion of the law that requires clinics to meet the standards of ambulatory surgical centers. That document will contain a 16-page preamble to directly address the 19,000-plus commenters who asked regulators to amend the rules to prevent potential widespread clinic closures by carving out waivers for existing facilities...

<snipping>

...In the document, state health officials argue the new standards will improve patient safety and said the rules are not intended to punish abortion clinics and do not "pose a substantial obstacle to a woman who seeks an abortion in Texas."

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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
33. A lot of women don't even know they're pregnant at 6 weeks
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:48 AM
Feb 2014

Also, pregnancy is often measured by the first day of the last period, which means "6 weeks of pregnancy" can mean a 4-week fetus.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
34. Oh yes, and I'm sure that's the point
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:57 AM
Feb 2014

Many women will be denied a choice even before they realize they're pregnant!

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
43. That's exactly what they want.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 05:05 PM
Feb 2014

Which is ridiculous! I knew really early with 3 of my 4 pregnancies - like 4 days before my period was even due. However, with one of them, I had a 'period' that lasted 10 days. I thought that was strange, so I went to the doctor to tell him I was still bleeding, could we start some tests? Turns out, I was pregnant. I was already 6 weeks at that point. And I'm someone who was seriously compulsive about pregnancy testing (I have very irregular periods). In my case, I was married and the pregnancy, while a total shock, was welcomed. I cannot imagine what my reaction would've been if it was an unwanted pregnancy and I was told, "you're pregnant, oh and it's too late for an abortion" What these states are doing to women is completely, absolutely inhumane.

Response to gollygee (Reply #33)

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
39. I think I'll post a photo of some young starlet's boobs
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 01:40 PM
Feb 2014

so that people will find this thread worth kicking.

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
45. They missed the best one, still here in Oklahoma:
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 05:21 PM
Feb 2014
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-house-oks-bill-on-infant-hospice-services/article/3935513

(snip)
The Oklahoma House has approved legislation requiring abortion providers to notify women whose fetuses have fatal conditions that hospice services are available as an alternative to an abortion.

The House voted 93-0 for the measure Thursday and sent it to the Senate for consideration.

The measure by Republican Rep. Randy Grau of Edmond extends informed consent requirements for women considering an abortion approved by lawmakers in previous years. The measure would apply to women whose fetuses have been diagnosed with a condition that will result in death within hours or days of birth.
(snip)

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, our state legislature wants women to carry a fetus who has birth defects to term, but they'll give the fetus hospice care. Seriously? Apparently women are nothing but baby incubators to these people....

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
46. What... The... Fuck!!!????
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 05:27 PM
Feb 2014

And 93-0. Please, if there is a God, don't let my car break down in Oklahoma.

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