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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:56 PM Feb 2014

GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION! Think again,if you think you have nothing to Fear just posting on a Website

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When I first read "THE//INTERCEPT's" new revelations about Government's targeting Wikileaks I was reminded about the early days of Wikileaks when there were quite a few DU'ers linking to the site for the latest document dump and urging donations from those of us who cared about the issues that Wikileaks was exposing. I went to the Wikileaks site from links here on DU a few times and even thought of donating--but never got around to it.

Now it appears that any of us who either donated or participated in Wikileaks document reading could be on the NSA's Active Watch List. Also that DU, Daily KOS or other Websites who had active or passive Wikileaks followers could be flagged as being on the NSA Watchlist for allowing posters on their website to link to Wikileaks. There could be many Democratic Websites whose whole site could be in NSA's Agent Mike's Database just because posters were direct linking to Wikileaks and others were following the links.

WE ARE ALL GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION....comes to mind with these latest revelations.

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Published on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 by Common Dreams

Top-secret documents from the National Security Agency and its British counterpart,' reports The Intercept on Tuesday, 'reveal for the first time how the governments of the United States and the United Kingdom targeted WikiLeaks and other activist groups with tactics ranging from covert surveillance to prosecution.' (Following new revelations about the manner in which U.S. and U.K. spy agencies targeted the media outlet Wikileaks, the organization on Tuesday has announced its intention to legal action against the NSA and GCHQ in order to challenge what it calls an overt assault on journalism.



As The Intercept's Glenn Greenwald and Ryan Gallagher report, documents made available by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden show "for the first time how the governments of the United States and the United Kingdom targeted WikiLeaks and other activist groups with tactics ranging from covert surveillance to prosecution."

The internal government documents, including slides of presentations given at an annual top secret surveillance conference between the two countries and internal agency correspondence, expose how the government targeted not only Wikileaks and its spirited leader Julian Assange, but also those people all over the world—including U.S. and British citizens—who may have accessed or viewed the public website.


As The Intercept reports: "In 2008, not long after WikiLeaks was formed, the U.S. Army prepared a report that identified the organization as an enemy, and plotted how it could be destroyed. The new documents provide a window into how the U.S. and British governments appear to have shared the view that WikiLeaks represented a serious threat, and reveal the controversial measures they were willing to take to combat it."

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/02/18

FULL REPORT HERE:
Snowden Documents Reveal Covert Surveillance and Pressure Tactics Aimed at WikiLeaks and Its Supporters
By Glenn Greenwald and Ryan Gallagher 18 Feb 2014, 1:50 AM EST

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/02/18/snowden-docs-reveal-covert-surveillance-and-pressure-tactics-aimed-at-wikileaks-and-its-supporters/

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GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION! Think again,if you think you have nothing to Fear just posting on a Website (Original Post) KoKo Feb 2014 OP
Are they guilty by association? This group has appointed themselves as investigation of Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #1
K&R n/t Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #3
Well, that puts to rest the "Land of the Free" myth. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #4
and the "I've done nothing wrong so that Snowden/Greenwald stuff doesn't KoKo Feb 2014 #5
+1 jsr Feb 2014 #12
Kick for the CA Crowd and Night Crowd. "Common Dreams did good Snip KoKo Feb 2014 #6
K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #7
recommend frwrfpos Feb 2014 #8
How many degrees of separation are there here on DU? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #9
Chilling! nt Mojorabbit Feb 2014 #10
Well, I guess I'm on their list Oilwellian Feb 2014 #11
Fuck the NSA PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #13
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #14
You know I was well aware of surveillance of all things political long before the Internet KoKo-lol bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #15
I was too...but, as you say KoKo Feb 2014 #17
k and r nt Mojorabbit Feb 2014 #16

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Are they guilty by association? This group has appointed themselves as investigation of
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 03:32 PM
Feb 2014

Different security agencies and if they thought this was going to pass without any investigation then they are easily fooled.

Response to Joe Shlabotnik (Reply #2)

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. and the "I've done nothing wrong so that Snowden/Greenwald stuff doesn't
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 06:04 PM
Feb 2014

apply to me" crowd. This latest revelation shows that we are "all suspect" because of association in their view. It isn't just about terrorists in foreign countries it's now "suspected terrorists" from within who post on websites and link to articles and information from those who are suspect...like journalists for major newspapers and bloggers who just might be reporting news that the "GOVERNMENT" finds threatening.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. Kick for the CA Crowd and Night Crowd. "Common Dreams did good Snip
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:12 PM
Feb 2014

of this...and if you have insomnia...then read the WHOLE THING at the "FIRST LOOK" Link from Greenwald and Gallagher at their NEW WEBSITE which has more DETAIL than you might have time to wade into..but is GOOD STUFF:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/02/18/snowden-docs-reveal-covert-surveillance-and-pressure-tactics-aimed-at-wikileaks-and-its-supporters/

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. How many degrees of separation are there here on DU?
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:14 PM
Feb 2014

Anyone who has ever read DU would only be one degree of separation from any other person who has read DU and also visited Wikileaks.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
11. Well, I guess I'm on their list
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 12:24 AM
Feb 2014

Proud owner of Wikileaks TShirts and also downloaded some of their document dumps.

A message to NSA fascists: What exactly are you protecting while you take a dump on our Constitution?

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
15. You know I was well aware of surveillance of all things political long before the Internet KoKo-lol
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:05 PM
Feb 2014

Surveillance is nothing compared to operations. Kick.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
17. I was too...but, as you say
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:59 PM
Feb 2014

to know that the "operations" are so vast, multi-country sharing and far more sophisticated than anything Nixon/Hoover were capable of should hopefully wake up some of the naysayers who think these revelations are nothing but Snowden and Greenwald trying to "make a buck."


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