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ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:24 PM Feb 2014

Denmark bans halal and kosher slaughter as minister says ‘animal rights come before religion’

Adam Withnall Tuesday 18 February 2014

Denmark’s government has brought in a ban on the religious slaughter of animals for the production of halal and kosher meat, after years of campaigning from welfare activists. The change to the law, announced last week and effective as of yesterday, has been called “anti-Semitism” by Jewish leaders and “a clear interference in religious freedom” by the non-profit group Danish Halal.

European regulations require animals to be stunned before they are slaughtered, but grants exemptions on religious grounds. For meat to be considered kosher under Jewish law or halal under Islamic law, the animal must be conscious when killed.

Yet defending his government’s decision to remove this exemption, the minister for agriculture and food Dan Jørgensen told Denmark’s TV2 that “animal rights come before religion”.

Commenting on the change, Israel’s deputy minister of religious services Rabbi Eli Ben Dahan told the Jewish Daily Forward: “European anti-Semitism is showing its true colours across Europe, and is even intensifying in the government institutions.”


Is saying an animal has to be stunned before it is slaughtered anti-Semitic?
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Denmark bans halal and kosher slaughter as minister says ‘animal rights come before religion’ (Original Post) ZombieHorde Feb 2014 OP
Unless you're a giraffe in which case all bets are off... truebrit71 Feb 2014 #1
I couldn't have said it better myself. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #12
what a ridiculous just-to-be-provocative bullshit-question cali Feb 2014 #2
I bet the giraffe was "Stunned" to find out he was going to be dinner.... Historic NY Feb 2014 #3
No. Feral Child Feb 2014 #4
In this case, animal welfare coincides nicely with anti-semitism and Islamophobia. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #5
It's still the right thing to ban that sort of superstition-driven cruelty. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #10
Wrong question frazzled Feb 2014 #6
I agree. I don't think 'stunning' is any more humane than the kosher or halal way. LuvNewcastle Feb 2014 #11
About as anti Jewish as not allowing pipoman Feb 2014 #7
Denmark is part of the EU KamaAina Feb 2014 #8
When we had to put a dog down fadedrose Feb 2014 #9
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
1. Unless you're a giraffe in which case all bets are off...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:27 PM
Feb 2014

But seriously, there is no good reason to increase the suffering an animal goes through to provide you with sustenance just to placate the whims of imaginary gods...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. what a ridiculous just-to-be-provocative bullshit-question
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:28 PM
Feb 2014

and in Denmark zoo workers just killed and cut up a zoo giraffe (in front of kids) even though they had reputable offers to take the giraffe or they could have neutered Marius.

And I'm not sure it's more humane to stun animals. Nothing humane about slaughtering animals- period.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
10. It's still the right thing to ban that sort of superstition-driven cruelty.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:30 PM
Feb 2014

I give not a single fuck if someone's religious sensibilities are upset over such a ban.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. Wrong question
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:58 PM
Feb 2014

Both Muslim and Jewish reaction has been negative within Denmark (and elsewhere).

The question is: Should a government be able to interdict religious practice absent clear scientific evidence that a practice is actually detrimental. Is using a "device the size of a hand-held drill (that is) is brought to the animal's head, a trigger pulled and a four-inch bolt shot into its brain" more humane than a procedure in which "the animal's neck is cut with a surgically sharp knife, severing its major arteries, causing a massive drop in blood pressure followed by death from loss of blood. Supporters say unconsciousness comes instantaneously - the cut itself stunning the animal." See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14779271

Who knows. The description of either method is enough to make one abandon meat altogether. My grandmother used to slaughter her own chickens. I never asked how she did it.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
11. I agree. I don't think 'stunning' is any more humane than the kosher or halal way.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:45 PM
Feb 2014

Until they're able to come up with something else, I think they should allow kosher and halal slaughters to continue.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. Denmark is part of the EU
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:07 PM
Feb 2014

they could easily import kosher meat from another country such as Germany.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
9. When we had to put a dog down
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:14 PM
Feb 2014

She was old and sick - the vet first gave her a shot that prevents pain, then the lethal shot.

I'm not anti-semitic, but it is a nice idea. Surely they don't think god likes to see creatures suffer....

Most hunters would agree. They respect and love the animals they kill and use for food. A quick death for any animal who must be put down for any reason.

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