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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:14 PM Feb 2014

"Venezuela Under Attack Again"... (Surprise....surprise)

Under attack "AGAIN"????

I wasn't aware that the forces of the Elite 1%, Wall Street, the Global Banks, and the Global Resource Extraction Corporations had ever relented in their continuous attacks on the Venezuelan Government and the Populist Reforms that diverted a percentage of the Profits from Venezuelan Resource Extraction to actually helping the People of Venezuela since the election of Hugo Chavez in 1998.


Again, a highly organized attack is being carried out against the democratic and popular government of Venezuela. It has involved monetary manipulations, economic sabotage, international media campaign against the economy despite excellent economic indicators, defaming the state run oil company, and this last week riots on the streets that have left 3 dead and 66 injured.

The tactics are the same that the un-democratic opposition has tried for 15 years ever since the first election of President Hugo Chávez. Such tactics have been used in the so-called Rainbow Revolutions in Eastern Europe, Libya, in Syria, in Egypt and now in Ukraine. The object is to give a semblance of chaos, to provoke the forces of public order, to discredit the government through the compliant international media, to foster civil unrest, even civil war (as it successfully happened in Syria), and ultimately to promote conditions for international intervention and even occupation.

<snip>

The attack on Venezuela, aimed to create popular discontent has had the following features:

*Monetary warfare
This started with run on the currency, the manipulation of the black market dollar, obtaining dollars at preferential price from the government under false reasons. Maduro did not hesitate: he regulated prices and changed the monetary exchange rules and 70% approved of his response.[ii]

*False Scarcity
(see link)


*Attack on Venezuela’s petroleum company PDVSA
(see link)

*Campaign to discredit the economy
The international media has been predicting doom and gloom for Venezuela for years! The Venezuelan economy is doing very well. Its oil exports last year amounted to $94 billons while the imports only reached $59.3 billons – a historically low record. The national reserves are at $22 billons and the economy has a surplus (not a deficit) of 2.9% of GDP. The country has no significantly onerous national or foreign debts.

*Exaggeration of Security risks.
Venezuela has high crime rate, unfortunately, just like most countries in Latin America.

<more>
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/17/venezuela-under-attack-again/



An interesting article, well worth the read.

Since the election of Reform President Hugo Chavez in 1998,
Venezuela has diverted a percentage of the Corporate Profits from the extraction of their natural resources to:
*Heal their Sick

*Feed their Hungry

*Educate their Ignorant

*House their Homeless

*Empower their Disenfranchised

You can understand WHY the Global 1% and their Mouth Pieces HATE these reforms. This is NOT an example that they want the World to see.
This kind of thing could catch on!!!

Recently, they spent lavishly on Marketing, Image Control, Media Domination, Message Control, Propaganda, and Vote Buying for their opposition candidate (Henrique Capriles), in a transparent attempt to take over the Venezuelan government and return control to the 1%.
But the People of Venezuela stood behind their Reform Government,
and sent the Global 1% packing.

Naturally, the Global 1% are carrying a load of Butt Hurt from their failure to BUY the government Venezuela, and have intensified their propaganda campaign to demonize the fairly elected government of Venezuela.
Some of their mouth pieces are even here on DU.

In a country that pays so much Lip Service to words like "Democracy", and "Transparent Elections", and "Government OF of the people", you would think that there would be more respect for the REAL THING.
But No.
Both the Democratic Party Leadership and Republican party absolutely AGREE
that these Populist economic reforms MUST be DEMONIZED, attacked, and rejected.... no matter what the cost,
even if this drives these new Populist Democracies and their emerging MARKETS straight into the arms of China and Russia. QED
Not. Very. Smart.
We should be doing everything we can to support these new democracies, not trying to overthrow them.


Viva Democracy!
I pray we get some here soon!



You will know them by their WORKS!




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"Venezuela Under Attack Again"... (Surprise....surprise) (Original Post) bvar22 Feb 2014 OP
Mutually contradictory bullshit claims: geek tragedy Feb 2014 #1
Good job! bvar22 Feb 2014 #2
Yes, he was welcomed by Bush, that great human rights champion. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #5
Not quite right. bvar22 Feb 2014 #8
Yes, the difference is that in Libya the army sided with the regime and massacred protestors. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #12
And the author is wrong? Exactly how?? Lol, you must think we are all as naive sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #3
well if you agree that it's unfair to blame Venezuela's government for any of it's economic problems geek tragedy Feb 2014 #6
Basic gameplan; it happens in almost every case. El_Johns Feb 2014 #16
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro is also the same crazy coot that said the USA poisoned Chavez Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #4
Whatever happened to that investigation? Dr. Strange Feb 2014 #7
Well you do a brave thing with this OP. zeemike Feb 2014 #9
...And they have their water carries everywhere... even here. bvar22 Feb 2014 #10
... woo me with science Feb 2014 #11
But of course you know they have the perfect foil for your facts. zeemike Feb 2014 #13
Every single Corporate Board meeting... bvar22 Feb 2014 #19
"Where would be without the people who ask the questions?" zeemike Feb 2014 #20
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #14
Wake up, bvar! Maduro is as bad as Hitler!! RufusTFirefly Feb 2014 #15
I think this is a fair assessment of Chavez and his legacy: Adrahil Feb 2014 #17
I wonder why the "global 1%" don't "attack" countries like Denmark and Norway Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #18
They don't have oil zeemike Feb 2014 #22
Norway doesn't have oil? (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #23
Not that we can take away from them with a coup and a military dictatorship. zeemike Feb 2014 #24
And they are blaming Anonymous! Coyotl Feb 2014 #21
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. Mutually contradictory bullshit claims:
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:19 PM
Feb 2014

1) unseen dark forces are causing the currency to implode with runaway inflation (totally not the government's fault, btw);
2) shortages in basic necessities like food (like all other problems, not the government's fault);
3) the economy is doing great!

Also, note this:

The tactics are the same that the un-democratic opposition has tried for 15 years ever since the first election of President Hugo Chávez. Such tactics have been used in the so-called Rainbow Revolutions in Eastern Europe, Libya, in Syria, in Egypt and now in Ukraine


So, this author is lumping the opposition to Chavez/Maduro to the opposition to:

Muommar Gaddhafi
Bashir al Assad
Hosni Mubarak

You know who supported people like Gaddhafi, Mubarak, and Assad?

George W. Bush.

P.S. My favorite was how they said national food shortages were caused by smuggling via a bridge built for motorcycles. That's a lot of motorcycles.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
2. Good job!
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 08:57 PM
Feb 2014

I must give you more credit.
I didn't think you had noticed the Economic Similarities between Libya and Venezuela.

” For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html


I've never had much love for Qaddafi,
but Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa, and was Gaddafi was being welcomed by The West for travel and trade before he suddenly became this Evil Dictator who was killing his own people.

Did you ever question,
Why Libya?
and
WHY now?

Google: Qaddafi proposed nationalizing the Libyan Oil Company

Google: Libya accuses Goldman-Sachs of mismanaging the $1 Billion Libyan Development fund

Do you think that Venezuela needs some of our Freedom Bombs too?

Do you know who WON in Libya?
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Yes, he was welcomed by Bush, that great human rights champion.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:07 PM
Feb 2014

So you're keeping good company on that score.

Anyhow, why did Libyans decide to overthrow Gaddhafi when they did?

Two words: Ben Ali.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zine_El_Abidine_Ben_Ali

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisian_revolution

You see, these Arabs have ideas of their own. They do stuff without white people pulling their strings. And when the Tunisians--all by themselves, without any outside help or intervention--successfully overthrew their dictator--other Arabs began to think "maybe we can do that too."

So they started protesting in Libya.

And in Egypt.

And in Syria.

Quite frankly, those who try to 'blame' the overthrow of Arab dictatorships on evil western forces are not only on the wrong side of history, they're also peddling Orientalist racism.


bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. Not quite right.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:29 PM
Feb 2014

There was an ongoing Civil War in Libya for many years, mostly limited to the Eastern Provinces
and fueled by Al Qaeda among other sources.
This is far different from the spontaneous civilian uprisings of the Arab Spring.

The Intervention in the Libyan Civil War piggy-backed on the legitimate popular uprisings of the Arab Spring,
and removed the only serious roadblock separating the the IMF and Global Resource Extraction Corporations from the resource riches of North Africa.
Gaddafi, warts and all, was a firm advocate of
[font size=3] Africa for Africans, NOT Western Corporations (Pan-Africa)[/font]
...and now.. that is gone.

If you really believe the Bombing of Libya was about freeing the civilians,
then I take back what I said above.


Lets see if you can spot the difference:



[font size=3]Arab Spring in Egypt



Arab Spring in Tunesia




Libyan Civil War[/font]


Spot the difference?
Need some hints?


Do you KNOW what is happening in Libya today?

Who really WON in Libya?



 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. Yes, the difference is that in Libya the army sided with the regime and massacred protestors.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:08 PM
Feb 2014

Fittingly, you blame the protestors. I guess they should have just taken your advice and been content to have Gaddhafi be their dictator for life.

Bonus points for the Neocon promoting of ZOMG Al Qaeda as the main bogeyman that was threatening Gaddhaf as opposed to his own people.

Your romantic idea of Gaddhafi as a champion of African people was not quite relevant to the people on whose throat he was stepping.



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. And the author is wrong? Exactly how?? Lol, you must think we are all as naive
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:00 PM
Feb 2014

as people were back in the old days, before Latin America finally took back their sovereignies, began prosecutions of War Criminals, who I'm sure way back then, many Right Wingers here supported, actually we know they did.

Same old Imperial story but I think this time they are going to have a much more difficult time, thanks to all the work Chavez did to strengthen alliances between the Latin American former victims of our dictator allies.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. well if you agree that it's unfair to blame Venezuela's government for any of it's economic problems
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:08 PM
Feb 2014

and that food shortages for a country of 29 million can be caused by smugglers on motorcycles, I'm sure it's 100% accurate.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
16. Basic gameplan; it happens in almost every case.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:27 PM
Feb 2014

In the first year of Allende's term, the short-term economic results of Minister of the Economy Pedro Vuskovic's expansive monetary policy were highly favorable: 12% industrial growth and an 8.6% increase in GDP, accompanied by major declines in inflation (down from 34.9% to 22.1%) and unemployment (down to 3.8%).

However by 1972, the Chilean escudo had an inflation rate of 140%. The average Real GDP contracted between 1971 and 1973 at an annual rate of 5.6% ("negative growth&quot ; and the government's fiscal deficit soared while foreign reserves declined.[42]

The combination of inflation and government-mandated price-fixing, together with the "disappearance" of basic commodities from supermarket shelves, led to the rise of black markets in rice, beans, sugar, and flour.[43] The Chilean economy also suffered as a result of a US campaign against the Allende government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende


After 50 years, you start to notice the pattern if you're reasonably intelligent.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
9. Well you do a brave thing with this OP.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:29 PM
Feb 2014

Because you know who will show up to tell us all that Chavez was a commie dictator and ruined the country...dispite what the facts really are.

I just came off a discussion about it and had to deal with them...and it is tiresome when they repeat the same propaganda over and over...and just ignore any facts you present.

The one percent want the oil back under their control, and expect our government to help them get it...and they are doing their best to do just that.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
10. ...And they have their water carries everywhere... even here.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:53 PM
Feb 2014

...the very same people who tried (and still try) to demonize OWS and anybody else who tries to speak for the Americans who have NOT benefited from this marvelous recovery!


The Totally Unfair And Bitterly Uneven 'Recovery,' In 12 Charts – HuffPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662029

95 percent of the economy’s gains have gone to the top 1 percent
http://billmoyers.com/2014/01/10/why-conservatives-old-divide-and-conquer-strategy-%E2%80%94-setting-working-class-against-the-poor-%E2%80%94-is-backfiring/

Billionaire wealth doubles since financial crisis
http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/11/12/Billionaire-wealth-doubles-since-financial-crisis/5011384268135/?spt=hts&or=12

US Wealthy Have Biggest Piece of Pie Ever Recorded
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/09/11-6

Study: "Trade" Deal Would Mean a Pay Cut for 90% of U.S. Workers
http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2013/09/the-verdict-is-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership-tpp-a-sweeping-free-trade-deal-under-negotiation-with-11-pacific-rim-coun.html

Wall Street will get away with massive wave of criminality of 2008 - Statute of Limitations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022516719

Older Workers:.Set Back by Recession, and Shut Out of Rebound
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/booming/for-laid-off-older-workers-age-bias-is-pervasive.html?smid=tw-share&_r=3&
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THAT doesn't happen by accident!
IT is ALL connected, not just here at home,
but in what is happening around the World.

Does ANYBODY here really believe that US Billionaire Corporate 1% Money did NOT find its way into the pockets of the Opposition during the last election in Resource Rich Venezuela?

...and is NOT financing the relentless attacks on the Populist Reforms spreading across Latin America and putting downward pressure on Corporate profits for an entire continent??
If so, then there is a bridge yadda...yadda...yadda.....



Anyway, this guy and the Koch Brothers will be sure to thank them,
and let them into their Country Club at the very first opportunity!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
13. But of course you know they have the perfect foil for your facts.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:10 PM
Feb 2014

Conspiracy Theory.

And once they say that all progressives are bound by law to dismiss it all.,,and you post can be alerted on or locked.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
19. Every single Corporate Board meeting...
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:01 PM
Feb 2014

.... is a very real conspiracy to lower costs,
increase Cash Flow,
and improve the bottom line,
even (or especially) at the expense of Wages & Benefits.
Conspiracies to achieve a goal, legal or illegal, are EVERYWHERE everyday.

Let them call it Conspiracy Theory.
That seems to salve their psyche.
I don't care.
It won't stop me from asking the questions and looking for the connections.
the MOST important question is "Cui Bono".
Nothing that increases the Transfer of Wealth to the 1% ever happens by accident.

Where would be without the people who ask the questions?

I wish we had some way to honestly document the level of US "secret" participation with the opposition to Social Reforms in Venezuela elsewhere in The World.
Of course, a handful of Billionaires could finance it on their own,
but I doubt they could operate without Government permission or in opposition to Government Policy.


zeemike

(18,998 posts)
20. "Where would be without the people who ask the questions?"
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:08 PM
Feb 2014

In 1984
Because when Big Brother is always watching you no one asks questions.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
15. Wake up, bvar! Maduro is as bad as Hitler!!
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:26 PM
Feb 2014


What pains me about our covert undermining of other countries and our relentless propaganda in branding everyone who doesn't play ball with us as tyrants is that all too often it becomes self-fulfilling. The governments under attack ultimately become paranoid and repressive.

In Iran in the 1950s, Mossadegh knew his opposition was being funded by the CIA but he was such a believer in our principle of free speech that he let it go on. Look where it got him. And where it ultimately got us!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. I wonder why the "global 1%" don't "attack" countries like Denmark and Norway
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:41 PM
Feb 2014

that provide universal healthcare and generous social benefits?

Could it be that Venezuela's problems are actually due to breathtaking incompetence, extreme corruption, and gross mismanagement?

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
22. They don't have oil
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:18 PM
Feb 2014

And are in fact the customers for their oil.

But breathtaking incompetence, extreme corruption, and gross mismanagement could also be said of the US...I mean think the financial collapse of 08 and tell us about corruption and mismanagement...(the incompetence not so much because they were very competent crooks that got away with the crime)

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
24. Not that we can take away from them with a coup and a military dictatorship.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:40 PM
Feb 2014

And not nearly as much as Venzeuala...and not as close to the refineries in Texas.

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