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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 08:48 PM Feb 2014

Dallas Paper Wants To Know What Abbott Thinks Of Nugent's 'Paean To Sex With Underage Girls'

CATHERINE THOMPSON – FEBRUARY 21, 2014, 12:49 PM EST

The Dallas Morning News' Wayne Slater on Friday asked Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott's (R) campaign to comment on his campaign buddy Ted Nugent's admission to having sex with underage girls.

Slater writes:

As attorney general, Abbott pledged as part of his conservative agenda to fight sexual predators who target young girls. Nugent took the campaign stage with Abbott this week where the attorney general touted him as a “fighter for freedom” because of his appeal to gun-rights voters in Texas. But then there’s this, Nugent’s 1981 paean to sex with underage girls entitled Jailbait.


"Jailbait" contains lyrics like these: "Well I don’t care if you’re just thirteen/ You look too good to be true/ I just know that you’re probably clean/ There’s one lil’ thing I got to do to you."

Nugent admitted to having affairs with underage girls in a 1998 "Behind the Music" documentary.

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Dallas Paper Wants To Know What Abbott Thinks Of Nugent's 'Paean To Sex With Underage Girls' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2014 OP
Rec Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #1
Good question.. let's see Abbott slime out of this. Cha Feb 2014 #2
Can Wendy Davis get away with going there against Abbot? nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #45
Why not? Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #57
Very simple: DFW Feb 2014 #60
From the comment section: Contrary1 Feb 2014 #3
Mind if I tweet that? It's almost exactly 140 characters too! nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #4
Perfect! freshwest Feb 2014 #5
Oh my, that's perfect. myrna minx Feb 2014 #7
+1 Snotcicles Feb 2014 #16
I couldn't have said it better myself!!! gopiscrap Feb 2014 #41
Wow, perfect comment! City Lights Feb 2014 #52
Hypocrite and republican are interchangeable terms. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #6
And For The Benefit Of Those Lurkers Out There Vogon_Glory Feb 2014 #8
Yes, Yes, YES!!!! olegramps Feb 2014 #10
Courtney Love admitted to having sex with Nugent when she was 12 Major Nikon Feb 2014 #9
Funny how that works durablend Feb 2014 #11
The Repiglickin Media Decides What 'Matters' and What 'Doesn't Matter' AndyTiedye Feb 2014 #34
The sound of hitting the nail on the head. merrily Feb 2014 #12
I'm so glad to see this in the DMN. redqueen Feb 2014 #13
The Dallas Morning News has a heavy rightward tilt DFW Feb 2014 #14
Republicon "Family Values" - sheesh Berlum Feb 2014 #15
Duck Dynasty Bohunk68 Feb 2014 #17
Ted to startup new band and hit the road with Woody Allen. L0oniX Feb 2014 #18
Will Woody have time? awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #19
Here's the movie sound track: Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter L0oniX Feb 2014 #20
If we keep this up... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #23
"Woody haters"! I can hear and read it now. L0oniX Feb 2014 #24
they worship woodies, alright. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #31
Wow. liberalmuse Feb 2014 #51
personally, i was thinking of a mindset BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #54
That really isn't fair. mimi85 Feb 2014 #35
Actually... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #36
Did I make a joke about it? mimi85 Feb 2014 #49
No, you didn't... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #50
K&R. tosh Feb 2014 #21
Then 12-year old Courtney Love remembers Ted Nugent. Octafish Feb 2014 #22
My, what an awkward question. malthaussen Feb 2014 #25
along with, "she wanted it anyway" n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #32
modern politics operates entirely on cognitive dissonance MisterP Feb 2014 #37
If the Democratic Party can take back the Texas governorship . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #26
I hope Wendy makes a big deal about Abbot's association w/him Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #29
here you go justabob Feb 2014 #42
love it love it love it keep it up. Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #44
Calling it an "affair" when they are underage seems a little less-than-accurate. arcane1 Feb 2014 #27
Greg is running a bad campaign Gothmog Feb 2014 #28
The strategy works, crim son Feb 2014 #30
That strategy worked the last time Vogon_Glory Feb 2014 #33
Used to call 'em Jail Bait. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #38
When a gutless, shit eating, chickenhawk sulphurdunn Feb 2014 #39
I'm stealing that. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #58
This Abbott chump is the one that's gotta do the walk, screw ding-head Nugent. bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #40
One caveat here about using Nugent's lyrics to condemn him. cheyanne Feb 2014 #43
Nine children with seven women? colorado_ufo Feb 2014 #46
Maybe Abbott is chasing the Paedophile vote. corksean Feb 2014 #47
My nephew carla Feb 2014 #48
Ted Nugent = Ian Watkins without the video evidence. alp227 Feb 2014 #53
anyone done the parody Abbott and w jailbait yet? nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #55
what cowards daybranch Feb 2014 #56
NO surprises here I've known this guy was a PoS ever since the first time I heard Strangle Hold azurnoir Feb 2014 #59

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
57. Why not?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:04 AM
Feb 2014

Abbot brought the subject up regarding getting tougher on sexual predators. Well, what better opportunity to ask Abbott to get "tough" on Ted Nugent.

It's the perfect opening.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
60. Very simple:
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:32 PM
Feb 2014

All she has to say is that Nugent's words tell Texas all they need to know about Nugent, and that Abbott's lack of words tell Texans all they need to know about Abbott.

To quote an old friend of mine, " 'nuff said!"

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
3. From the comment section:
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:03 AM
Feb 2014

"I think a cowardly pervert who shits himself when real danger threatens and waves his gun at shadows is an excellent mascot for the GOP."

Perfect. Think I will be using this quote whenever the opportunity presents itself.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
4. Mind if I tweet that? It's almost exactly 140 characters too!
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:29 AM
Feb 2014


*Edit: Never mind, not your quote anyway. But thanks regardless.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Perfect!
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 04:05 AM
Feb 2014
Greg Abbott campaign surrogate Ted Nugent’s paean to sex with underage girls ‘Jailbait.’

...Here are some lyrics:


Jailbait you look so good to me Jailbait won’t you set me free Jailbait you look fine fine fine I know I’ve got to have you in a matter of time

Well I don’t care if you’re just thirteen You look too good to be true I just know that you’re probably clean There’s one lil’ thing I got to do to you

Jailbait you look so good to me Jailbait won’t you set me free Jailbait you look fine fine fine I know I’ve got to have you in a matter of time

So tell your mama that I’m back in town She likes us boys when it’s time to get down She’s got this craving for the underage I just might be your mama’s brand new rage.


From the comment section:

"I think a cowardly pervert who shits himself when real danger threatens and waves his gun at shadows is an excellent mascot for the GOP."

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/02/greg-abbott-campaign-surrogate-ted-nugent-paean-to-sex-with-underage-girls-jailbait.html/?nclick_check=1

From last year this makes him perfect as the penultimate GOP family values candidate:

Nugent’s 2016 slogan: ‘I have 9 children from 7 women, and I’m running for president’


By David Edwards - July 4, 2013



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/04/nugents-2016-slogan-i-have-9-children-from-7-women-and-im-running-for-president/

Article names the states that want Ted to run for elected office. He says it'd crowd out his hunting schedule, though. He's a very busy man, you know, working as the GOP and NRA's favorite icon.

Fox News contributor slams conservatives for downplaying Ted Nugent’s behavior

By Arturo Garcia - February 21, 2014

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/21/fox-news-contributor-slams-conservatives-for-downplaying-ted-nugents-behavior/

Looks like something is burning over there at Faux besides their pants on fire as usual. Found an article at the UK Mail (I know, not that good but it always has great photographs) about the Faux guy with the child porn.

And it wasn't the first time the sleazy network had been caught with such employees, either. Even found a Utah paper going after them, Glenn Beck, et al.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
8. And For The Benefit Of Those Lurkers Out There
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 09:48 AM
Feb 2014

And for the benefit of those lurkers out there, particularly those right wing-nuts who like to snicker at what those "libruls" are railing about, may I suggest a search strategy so they can check out Nugent's lyrics for themselves instead of taking some "librul's" say-so: search Ted Nugent Jailbait lyrics. That is, assuming that such right-wingers have the intestinal fortitude to face unpleasant facts, which I have come to doubt.

And another little question I'm sure that many right-wingers would chose to avoid answering: is the sort of behavior that Nugent sings about the sort of behavior you'd like your boys to indulge in?





olegramps

(8,200 posts)
10. Yes, Yes, YES!!!!
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:51 AM
Feb 2014

And another little question I'm sure that many right-wingers would chose to avoid answering: is the sort of behavior that Nugent sings about the sort of behavior you'd like your boys to indulge in?

Their answer would be yes if the girl was from one of those 47% worthless families of takers.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. Courtney Love admitted to having sex with Nugent when she was 12
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:29 AM
Feb 2014

It's not as if the pedophilia of Nugent is a big secret. I can certainly understand how Republicans would be stupid enough to let Nugent campaign for them. I can't understand why this hasn't received more attention. Nugent campaigned for Romney as well and like Abbot, Romney was called on it and their answer is simply to ignore the issue altogether. For whatever reason it simply goes away. Clinton was hounded endlessly for "palling around with terrorists" for little more than passing William Ayers in the hallway on their way to a board meeting for a non-profit. So here we have a Republican overtly allying themselves with a child rapist, and it's just no big deal.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
11. Funny how that works
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:03 AM
Feb 2014

Monica was supposedly a consenting adult but OH NOES!, yet a washed up right wing entertainer sleeps with underage girls, NO PROBLEMO!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
14. The Dallas Morning News has a heavy rightward tilt
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:47 AM
Feb 2014

But it IS possible to push them too far. If Abbott does NOT come out and distance himself from Nugent, and soon, he risks the DMN endorsing Wendy, or at least staying neutral. I still think the DMN will endorse Abbott, but each day he doesn't say anything negative about Nugent is about a week's worth of likelihood the DMN will not endorse him. Sex with underage girls is not the sort of behavior the DMN editorial board overlooks lightly, even if it's the candidate's favorite entertainer, and not the candidate himself.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
17. Duck Dynasty
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:19 PM
Feb 2014

and 15 year olds. This is the whole thing about Rethuglicans, they want to commit sexual crimes with underage persons.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
19. Will Woody have time?
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:45 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:24 PM - Edit history (1)

I heard he was making a new movie titled "How I Met Your Daughter"

on edit: I just wanted to say this was a shot at Woody's relationship with Soon Ye. I would never joke about pedophilia.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
51. Wow.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:19 PM
Feb 2014

So essentially what a couple comments above are implying is that people who want a few more facts before creating an angry mob in order to to string up someone they "think" "might" be a pedo are now "pedo worshippers" (because you've already condemned the man as such, with not enough facts). Jesus Christ, did I slip into a wormhole and end up at Free Republic? This thread is about a person who has boasted many times that they've committed statutory rape. That is a fact. Let's not use this as an excuse to disparage and slander people who do not share your opinion about a completely unrelated topic, because that just degraded the commentary here really quickly.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
54. personally, i was thinking of a mindset
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:48 PM
Feb 2014

I see around here more than the specific person who was brought up in this sub-thread.

I'm just sick enough of the constant attacks on feminist analysis, which seem to be more protective of their perceived right to wave their "woodies" around in public, rather than listen to women's perspectives. Childish acting out their lack of respect, as well as enabling a culture of acceptable hostility to women who dare to question the dominant culture.

They direct a constant stream of hate towards women who dont want their out-of context drooling in our faces.

Women try again and again to explain the experience of being targetted and sexually harrassed--and end up being expected to politely absorb relentless hatred--directed personally and at women in general.

Then, the women get bashed and banned for reacting like any normal person would.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
35. That really isn't fair.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:40 PM
Feb 2014

There's no proof at all that I've heard of and it's been shown that kids can be programmed to believe things that just weren't true. Maybe it is, but Mia was one bitter woman. Understandably, but still....

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
36. Actually...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:22 PM
Feb 2014

I was aiming that one at him and Soon Ye. That situation is creepy enough. I would NEVER make a joke about the situation with Dylan. Regardless of whether it was Woody or Mia lying, Dylan is the victim and I will not joke about that.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
49. Did I make a joke about it?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:42 PM
Feb 2014

I'm sorry if it came across the wrong way. Yes, she is the victim one way or the other. Take care.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
25. My, what an awkward question.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:51 PM
Feb 2014

I imagine the answer -- should one ever be forthcoming -- will be some variation on the theme of "That was then, this is now."

-- Mal

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
37. modern politics operates entirely on cognitive dissonance
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:35 PM
Feb 2014

ask someone which President supported crack-runners, a Maoist who said he was God, Pol FRIGGIN' Pot, Saddam, the Iranian Mullahs, and the Taliban and whose best friend was the GenSec of the CPSU and they'd guess either Carter or Clinton

(and ask someone as to what president ended welfare as we know it, they'd say Ronnie or Caligula)

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
26. If the Democratic Party can take back the Texas governorship . . .
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:10 PM
Feb 2014

It will be a monster win if the Democratic Party can take back the Texas governorship. With Abbott shooting himself in the foot, using Nugent's gun (not his weapon) and Wendy Davis reaching high in the polls, this election presents a very good chance of doing just that.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
29. I hope Wendy makes a big deal about Abbot's association w/him
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:15 PM
Feb 2014

and the connection to "jailbait" values.

Be brutal and ruthless. It's a chance to damage Nugent if not Abbot.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
42. here you go
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:15 PM
Feb 2014

“This isn’t about some aging rockstar way past his prime that simply needs to go away,” Davis said during her remarks at the Texas Democratic Women Convention in Austin. “This is about Greg Abbott. It’s about his character, his judgment, his values when he stands on a stage next to someone like that and refers to him as his ‘blood brother.’”

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10024547717

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
44. love it love it love it keep it up.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:18 AM
Feb 2014

I've been watching the West Wing (old tv show, not
the current weekly Potus stuff).

Wow is it amazing, outstanding and moving, inspiring.
Highly recommended if you've never watched it.. I am
still in first series (been bedridden with pneumonia)

So intelligent and funny, relevant and current.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. Calling it an "affair" when they are underage seems a little less-than-accurate.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:43 PM
Feb 2014

But I give the DMN credit for at least bringing it up!

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
28. Greg is running a bad campaign
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:06 PM
Feb 2014

Greg is not that bright. Greg is trying to copy Perry's campaign tactics where Perry refused to debate his opponent and relied on the tea party to win

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
33. That strategy worked the last time
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:33 PM
Feb 2014

That strategy worked the last time. Of course Slick Rick had the advantage of incumbency and a still-disorganized Trxas state Democratic Party.

This time, Abbott isn't in the Governor's Mansion and the Democrats are better-organized.

The Texas Republican Party has had a choke-hold on state government for nearly 20 years. The only real campaigning the Rethuglies have had to do has been in the Republican primaries, which have grown increasingly out-of-synch with the general electorate. This time people might-possibly-be interested in a change.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
39. When a gutless, shit eating, chickenhawk
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 08:27 PM
Feb 2014

rat bastard like Nugent plays with guns and waves the flag, that's called compensation. When he calls someone a "sub-human mongrel." that's called projection. When he molests underage girls that's called a crime. When he brags about it that's called conservatism.

bkanderson76

(266 posts)
40. This Abbott chump is the one that's gotta do the walk, screw ding-head Nugent.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:35 PM
Feb 2014

As my little Mom (bless her heart) used to say, "You are only as good as the company you keep".
May as well punch Abbott's ticket and send him on down the road.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
43. One caveat here about using Nugent's lyrics to condemn him.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:57 PM
Feb 2014

Don't condemn his right to write those lyrics. Some art has always shown morally or criminal behavior. This is good. . . unless the artistis actually commit those crimes, as Nugent says he did.

The artists are portraying a piece of information vital to a society. Art is the feedback system of a culture. It tells us where the illness is. We need to know that.

Remember the case of the teenage boys who tried to commit suicide (I think one did) and the district attorney brought charges against the heavy metal band that the boys listened to?

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/17/arts/2-families-sue-heavy-metal-band-as-having-driven-sons-to-suicide.html

The trial exposed the myriad ways in which the boys families, schools and society failed them.


colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
46. Nine children with seven women?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 05:23 AM
Feb 2014

Not to mention all the other little girls/women he had sex with? I find it hard to believe that anyone (or anything) would have sex in any way/shape/form with that disgusting creep. Just to look at him makes my skin crawl.

corksean

(475 posts)
47. Maybe Abbott is chasing the Paedophile vote.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:06 AM
Feb 2014

According to Fox News there are millions and millions of them and they all have a vote.

carla

(553 posts)
48. My nephew
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:56 AM
Feb 2014

calls this pedophile, "Turd Poogent". For the life of me I can't figure out why any politicians would consider campaigning with this walking disaster. I can not imagine that Abbott's campaign is benefitting from having this offensively stupid, opinionated, moronic, base and ugly man standing on stage with the candidate. I used to take offense, now I just laugh at each new headline. How a 3rd rate rock guitarist has any relevance to American politics is beyond me; the GOTP is digging, scraping at the bottom of their ideological barrel. Keep the hits coming, Turd Poogent.

"Jailbait" contains lyrics like these: "Well I don’t care if you’re just thirteen/ You look too good to be true/ I just know that you’re probably clean/ There’s one lil’ thing I got to do to you."

Nugent admitted to having affairs with underage girls in a 1998 "Behind the Music" documentary."

alp227

(32,032 posts)
53. Ted Nugent = Ian Watkins without the video evidence.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:36 PM
Feb 2014

Ian Watkins is the ex-lead singer of British rock band Lostprophets who was recently convicted of multiple charges of child pornography and abuse. Among the evidence used against him was video of him having intercourse with an underage girl in the US.

Who knows if Ted Nugent is guilty or could be lying for the notoriety, as nothing beyond his occasional lightweight admissions or hearsay have suggested he has abused girls. The difference is, Watkins was shameless and stupid enough to leave all sorts of smoking guns lying around. Nugent so far has been able to keep the doors shut...just wait until women start speaking out saying Nugent abused them.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
56. what cowards
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:22 AM
Feb 2014

Nugent is so found of shooting animals but when he faced getting shot at himself (during Vietnam war) he crapped his pants. We should not be so upset though, whenever anything requires courage, republicans always come up with crap to hide their lack of courage. Nugent continues to make us laugh. As Shakespeare said he doth protest too much. I think he is also a closet homosexual based on his utterances.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
59. NO surprises here I've known this guy was a PoS ever since the first time I heard Strangle Hold
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:10 PM
Feb 2014

where he boast about beating women, what's really disturbing is I also remember him doing Sesame Street after that

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