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okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:37 PM Feb 2014

Actually, Your Cat Thinks You Are a Giant Cat

If you own a cat, you probably identify as something like its mother, albeit a human version, who feeds it, entertains it, and licks its fur to keep it clean (hopefully not). Unfortunately, your cat sees your pet-owner relationship much differently, according to the new book Cat Sense by English biologist Dr. John Bradshaw. It actually thinks you’re a “larger, non-hostile” cat.

Bradshaw, who has been studying the behavior of domesticated animals for over 30 years, reveals some fascinating explanations for why cats act the way they do around humans. For one, since cats have never been bred for a specific function other than looking nice, they’re ultimately less domesticated than the dog breeds humans have designed for chasing down game and helping around the house. Given that 85 percent of cats breed with feral tomcats, according to the book, the species has also stayed relatively wild. The animals’ interactions with their owners are driven less by learned behavior than by pure instinct.

SNIP

So next time you call your cat your “baby” or chide it for being annoying, just remember—it thinks of you as a fairly pleasant roommate that just happens to be freakishly large for reasons it can’t comprehend.


Read more: Why Do Cats Knead? Your Cat Thinks You're a Giant Cat Says Cat Sense | TIME.com http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/07/actually-your-cat-thinks-you-are-a-giant-cat/#ixzz2u0xvKDNs

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Actually, Your Cat Thinks You Are a Giant Cat (Original Post) okaawhatever Feb 2014 OP
whenever I haul in a big bag of cat food, my cats look at me with undisguised admiration Skittles Feb 2014 #1
Ha! Their bowls are full and yet they are really happy to see the big haul! Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #2
if it was really them doing the hauling, it would be bird and rat flavored Skittles Feb 2014 #4
Professional courtesy. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #11
lol Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #37
Kitty! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #3
Me lurvs kittehs! shenmue Feb 2014 #5
My last 3 moves were to acquire a better habitat for the cats. MadrasT Feb 2014 #51
Yup same here. CFLDem Feb 2014 #53
My kitty thinks I'm better than a giant cat. Arkansas Granny Feb 2014 #6
3 of our cats were originally wild dlwickham Feb 2014 #7
They WILL do that. In fact...... socialist_n_TN Feb 2014 #65
Not only are we freakishly large, we are the world's stupidest cats BlueStreak Feb 2014 #8
Actually, yes Scootaloo Feb 2014 #20
I think they bring their prey into the house Politicalboi Feb 2014 #38
Sign on the wall at my vet's office: lindysalsagal Feb 2014 #9
I've been saying for years... William Seger Feb 2014 #48
Your vet is... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #56
I stand corrected. lindysalsagal Feb 2014 #62
and this old chestnut: KatyMan Feb 2014 #60
A dog comes when you call. raven mad Feb 2014 #63
If that's the case... NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #10
So what's the cat trying to say when he pees on the wall? icymist Feb 2014 #12
It is probably true that they see us more as equals than dogs do. TDale313 Feb 2014 #13
Feline regression Zambero Feb 2014 #18
Makes sense. TDale313 Feb 2014 #19
58 seconds of some of the... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #57
Omg, just way too cute! TDale313 Feb 2014 #64
I have lived with three cats in my life. Jenoch Feb 2014 #14
My Mao Mao was almost named "Underfoot." TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #61
I read somewhere arikara Feb 2014 #15
Then explain why cats raised as pets Lithos Feb 2014 #16
Ferals likely see us as hostile cats, because humans tend to be hostile to animals not living as pet Scootaloo Feb 2014 #21
Get that... Lithos Feb 2014 #23
If my cat thinks that I am a big cat kenny blankenship Feb 2014 #17
your cat prolly wonders why you don't purr. nt grasswire Feb 2014 #34
A story about a soldier and a cat packman Feb 2014 #22
Great story! My experience with cats; they seem to like exclusive attention. gordianot Feb 2014 #32
What do ferrets think of us? TlalocW Feb 2014 #24
Lounge Logical Feb 2014 #25
Disagree. Sometimes it's good to break up the boredom, stress and frustration of US politics. democratisphere Feb 2014 #27
+1 !! lunasun Feb 2014 #31
27 seconds of Why Cats Rule The Internets -- otherwise known as Watch This! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #26
I'm not sure we're capable of understanding what a cat is thinking. Skip Intro Feb 2014 #28
sometimes they look very wise sometimes very vapid mucifer Feb 2014 #43
Pfft. GaYellowDawg Feb 2014 #46
nice to know ...I thought we were just the can openers! lunasun Feb 2014 #29
Good to know. democratisphere Feb 2014 #30
I've always wondered what my cats thought when I would go swimming. grasswire Feb 2014 #33
I dunno, my cats somehow know they cannot pet themselves. Or just want me to do the work. Rex Feb 2014 #35
I recently read that book and it's quite fascinating. SheilaT Feb 2014 #36
Then why do they get so upset when we crap in their litter box? JoeyT Feb 2014 #39
lolz.....Exactly...it's not like they're cleaning up after us! nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #40
My male cat who loves to eat PotatoChip Feb 2014 #41
Too cute. Kind of stereotypical there, huh? Male just wants food, female affection..... nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #44
I hadn't thought of it that way. PotatoChip Feb 2014 #45
i AM mommy. pansypoo53219 Feb 2014 #42
Look at this proof, right meow. Inkfreak Feb 2014 #47
Our cats seem to view us as family, as well as providers of good things. Shrike47 Feb 2014 #49
Interesting davidpdx Feb 2014 #50
Doubt it rock Feb 2014 #52
Actually your cat wonders why you are so obsessed with cats! n-t Logical Feb 2014 #54
Well ...I am a Hepcat... L0oniX Feb 2014 #55
I don't buy it Motown_Johnny Feb 2014 #58
Well duh...cats aren't really domestic. They just choose to live with us out of convenience. sir pball Feb 2014 #59

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
1. whenever I haul in a big bag of cat food, my cats look at me with undisguised admiration
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:45 PM
Feb 2014

I know they think I went hunting

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
51. My last 3 moves were to acquire a better habitat for the cats.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 08:50 AM
Feb 2014

Seriously, that was 90% of the reason for each move.

Hope you get resettled soon and find some nice feline friends.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
7. 3 of our cats were originally wild
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:06 PM
Feb 2014

one I adopted from a rescue group

the other two are a mama and her first daughter that sort of adopted us

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
65. They WILL do that. In fact......
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:55 AM
Feb 2014

the cat I have now (outside cat) came from a litter that happened when the male cat came and checked us out for a week or so. After our audition, he brought his current family with him one day. That's the way it looked like to me anyway.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
8. Not only are we freakishly large, we are the world's stupidest cats
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:14 PM
Feb 2014

We put up with all their crap and just keep bringing them food. No wonder they are confused.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
20. Actually, yes
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:38 AM
Feb 2014

That's why they bring us dead animals. They're treating us like kittens, and going "Okay, here's a food. Now, go do."

If you get rid of the mouse corpse a few times in a way the cat doesn't explicitly know you're NOT eating it... it'll bring you live animals. And it will watch you hunt the thing down.

They think we are big, inept cats

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
38. I think they bring their prey into the house
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:56 AM
Feb 2014

So it can't get away. My kitty caught a lizard last week and brought it in when I didn't even realize she had it. My mother said your cat has a bug. I went back in and the poor lizard already lost one of it's eyes. I caught it, and released it back into the field. Lizards are just toys till they die with cats. They don't taste good I wouldn't think. This was the second lizard brought in by 2 different cats. Both lizards survived, tail intact.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
48. I've been saying for years...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:16 AM
Feb 2014

... that the reason dogs and people get along so well is that dogs are so emotionally similar to people that we can pick up on each others emotions. A new study proves it:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dogs-feel-emotion-the-same-way-humans-do-study/

On the other hand, cats are emotionally alien.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
10. If that's the case...
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:25 PM
Feb 2014

Then why does my kitten sometimes jump into my arms to be held or squeak in the night to wake me so she can cuddle at my side while sleeping?

icymist

(15,888 posts)
12. So what's the cat trying to say when he pees on the wall?
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:26 PM
Feb 2014

http://www.simonscat.com/

Is he marking his territory? Is it graffiti? Is it street art?

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
13. It is probably true that they see us more as equals than dogs do.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:36 PM
Feb 2014

But if we're roomies, my little guy is a roomie who greets me at the door and loves to cuddle and play, so I'm good with that.

One thing that suggests cats don't totally see us humans as big cats- They don't really meow at other cats, just humans. So they do recognize something different in the human/cat relationship, although it may be they think we're their servants

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
18. Feline regression
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:35 AM
Feb 2014

Kittens do in fact meow for their mother, and since we humans regularly provide chow for our adult cats, they are not beyond regressing to an infantile stage when wanting food, seeing us as mama cats, and greeting us with those meows.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. I have lived with three cats in my life.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:41 PM
Feb 2014

The first one was the family pet when I was a kid. The hardest decision I have ever had to make in my life was to have him put down at almost 21 years old. The second was a lovable cat who could not always manage to use the litter box, even tbough there were three of them. The current cat is a female who was picked out by my daughters and never misses the litter box, but who seems to be underfoot a lot.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
61. My Mao Mao was almost named "Underfoot."
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:12 PM
Feb 2014

It was in the top 5 I think. But he talks just as much as he gets in the way, so that theme won out...

He used to have two "sisters" (not actually related. one passed, one now living with my ex) and we found that anything less than one box for each cat would lead to soiled carpets, etc... Even if the kitties are AOK with each other, they seem to be pretty particular about their litter habits.

I do miss having more than one cat because it's so sweet the way they play and cuddle and bathe each other... but I have to admit, one cat is more than enough to keep me busy.

Anyway, I always suspected that Mao Mao viewed me as kind of a peer. I'm not even mad.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
15. I read somewhere
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:18 AM
Feb 2014

that they think we are their mother; and that when we go out they think we are hunting.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
16. Then explain why cats raised as pets
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:27 AM
Feb 2014

Are different in their behaviors than ferals?

If we were cats to them, then it would be no different.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
21. Ferals likely see us as hostile cats, because humans tend to be hostile to animals not living as pet
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:39 AM
Feb 2014

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
23. Get that...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:16 AM
Feb 2014

However, I've seen cats at home do things a cat in the wild does not. Kissing for instance where the cat will rub their closed mouth against you - sometimes even on your own face. Not talking a marking kind of rub, but one where they rub their front teeth.

Other behaviors I see are specific vocalizations meant only for us, not to other non-hostile cats in the household. The language they use is far different.

L-

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
22. A story about a soldier and a cat
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:44 AM
Feb 2014

My neighbor told me that his son told him that when he returned from the service after an extended stay there was all the usual welcome-back-home fanfare. Relatives dropping in, neighbors coming by, and the family dog just loving the hell out of him. But the cat, whom the son really cared for, was nowhere to be seen and it was an indoor cat.
Later that night the son was sitting in the chair exhausted from the day , lights were out, and everyone asleep except him. Then the cat jumped into his lap, curled around in his lap, and went into that cat sleep/purring mode they have. The neighbor said his son said that of everything that happened that day, that made him feel that he was at home where he truly belonged.

gordianot

(15,239 posts)
32. Great story! My experience with cats; they seem to like exclusive attention.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:02 AM
Feb 2014

For example our old tom cat wanted to sit on my lap after I held my daughter when she was a baby. I do not ascribe jealousy (he never exhibited bad behavior) but wanted to sit on the lap of the person after they held our daughter. We noticed passing my daughter around to family members followed by the cat sitting on that persons lap, it was very apparent. It almost seemed like an inner dialog sort of "I want you after no one else wants you". This story gets to the heart of cat affection. I suspect it is related to why cats love to lay on computers when no one else is around so I (the cat) want your attention.

Eventually our old tom cat got to where he looked forward to sitting on the lap of family members who held our daughter and wanted to snuggle in. He never approached our daughter the entire time she was a baby unless it was with an adult family member. Most people did not know we had a cat he hid from strangers. Cats seem to have a very personal relationship with the people they trust. That cat maybe wanted that young man for himself.

I do consider myself both a cat and dog person and appreciate the different approaches they give to life.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
27. Disagree. Sometimes it's good to break up the boredom, stress and frustration of US politics.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:50 AM
Feb 2014

Cats. Keepin' it sane!!

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
28. I'm not sure we're capable of understanding what a cat is thinking.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:53 AM
Feb 2014

There's some hidden wisdom there, perhaps beyond our ability to understand it, even define it.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
33. I've always wondered what my cats thought when I would go swimming.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:06 AM
Feb 2014

......in the apartment pool. Take off most clothes, go outside, come back an hour later dripping wet.

What did they think about that?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
35. I dunno, my cats somehow know they cannot pet themselves. Or just want me to do the work.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:10 AM
Feb 2014

Not big fans of being ignored either.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
36. I recently read that book and it's quite fascinating.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:17 AM
Feb 2014

I think the single thing I found most interesting was this: cats bond primarily with their space, where they live. Dogs, with their humans. Which is why most dogs travel quite well. Just throw them in the car, drive 10 hours, and as long as the human is still there when they arrive all is fine. For the cats, same trip and the presence of the beloved human doesn't matter, because all the surroundings and smells are now different.

I've long known that dogs travel well and cats don't, but finding out why was very helpful.

A couple of cat comments. One cat in old age lost her ability to purr for the last year or so of her life. It was bizarre, because she'd still sit on my lap at every opportunity, but no longer purred. It made her less loveable, since cats and purring are so intertwined.

The other is that two of the four cats I've had, at the ends of their lives, spent every possible moment on my lap. They'd always been good lap sitters, but with them, in the last year or so, I could not sit down for two minutes but they'd be on my lap. Sweet, if slightly annoying. The other two were never lap cats to begin with, so there was no change there.

One of the cats brought live prey (mouse, rabbit) into the house, clearly expecting me to complete the kill. I greatly disappointed her by capturing the animal and setting it loose. I expect the resident cat to do the killing, not me.

Right now I have no resident cats, but some day, some day I will be a crazy cat lady and have hordes of them.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
41. My male cat who loves to eat
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 04:59 AM
Feb 2014

will always come sit beside me, and watch my every move while I am eating. He doesn't seem to like human food, since I've slipped him a piece of cheese or lunch meat on occasion, but he always watches. My theory is that since eating is such a joy to him, everything about food, including watching others eat stuff he doesn't even care about, is like porn to him.

His sister otoh, is affection driven. She's got to be either near me, or preferably on me at all times, but especially if she sees me in a reclined position. If I'm laying on the bed or couch, or reclined way back in the recliner, she will stare at my belly longingly for a second or two, then up she comes!

I got these 2 already full-grown cats a little over a year ago, so it's been fun getting to know their personality quirks.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
49. Our cats seem to view us as family, as well as providers of good things.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:22 AM
Feb 2014

They hang out with us in whatever rooms we are in, sit on us when they can, and ask for interaction if we don't initiate it. Basically, they like to hang with us.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
58. I don't buy it
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:31 PM
Feb 2014

Cats don't act the same towards each other as they do towards humans.


The easiest way to test this theory would be to study the way a house cat would interact with another cat that is roughly the same size as a human (~150 lhs. or so).

If the house cat isn't doing the cat version of jumping up on it's lap or laying down right in front of it and then staring off in another direction as if the larger creature was not there, then the theory is invalid.


It isn't like cats think that dogs are just different kinds of cats. Or that a possum or raccoon is just a different kind of cat.

This theory is a joke.



edit for typos



sir pball

(4,743 posts)
59. Well duh...cats aren't really domestic. They just choose to live with us out of convenience.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:34 PM
Feb 2014

They're just about the only companion/utility animal that coexists with us by choice. They're "commensal domesticates", as entirely capable of surviving entirely on their own, and I don't mean rummaging around dumpsters but rather in the wilderness with no human influence whatsoever, as they are of pawing at the drawer of canned food and staring miserably at the bowl of kibble. And in other news, switching to a "damp" diet makes kitty sad.

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