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Please help unfreep the reviews on Amazon of the textbook critical of Reagan (Original Post) stevenleser Feb 2014 OP
I haven't read the book so I can't help. ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #1
That's alright. Neither did the Freepers. (Plural, not possessive. Therefore, no apostrophe.) HubertHeaver Feb 2014 #2
Sorry - I get really upset ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #3
How about this five star review? Brother Buzz Feb 2014 #5
I know how to think ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #6
You don't have to write a review. You can simply indicate a particular review was "Not helpful" stevenleser Feb 2014 #9
The above post was found helpful by everyone who saw it out of everyone who saw it (nt) LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #15
. stevenleser Feb 2014 #17
That I can and did do. n/t ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #25
That one is right on point BlueMTexpat Feb 2014 #26
Yes you can. You can say that the negative reviews after Feb 17 2014 were not helpful. stevenleser Feb 2014 #8
They swarm to defend their god Prophet 451 Feb 2014 #4
Just leave comments to the obvious freepers. edbermac Feb 2014 #7
Yes, you can do that and you can vote a particular review was "Not helpful". stevenleser Feb 2014 #10
I have. edbermac Feb 2014 #13
This is what's important to you? 1000words Feb 2014 #11
Believe it or not, I am capable of multitasking issues of various import. Aren't you? nt stevenleser Feb 2014 #12
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #14
It would be helpful for you to know what you are talking about before you post. stevenleser Feb 2014 #16
Wow. So you DID take me off of ignore... "unfreep the reviews" cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #18
Wow, so you posted that nasty stuff expecting me to not defend myself because I had you on ignore? stevenleser Feb 2014 #19
Nnnnope. I WOULD say though that you just gave up a LOT of credibility. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #20
Almost everyone but you got it right away, the rest except you, got it after I clarified. stevenleser Feb 2014 #21
Fighting with liberals again? CreekDog Feb 2014 #32
What's really hilarious about this is I think the textbook author was quoting Thomas Sowell when okaawhatever Feb 2014 #22
Amazon should require a book be purchased before they allow reviews BuelahWitch Feb 2014 #23
Thank you Buelah and I agree, that should be a requirement! stevenleser Feb 2014 #24
the Freepers are helping her book sales Enrique Feb 2014 #27
I never post Niceguy1 Feb 2014 #28
That is not what I am suggesting. nt stevenleser Feb 2014 #29
Of course not... pipi_k Feb 2014 #31
Define "screw with". Here, Ill help. stevenleser Feb 2014 #33
I'll define it... pipi_k Feb 2014 #35
Ya know, 'DU this Poll' is a tradition here, people frequently post requests to go vote in some Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #34
"If this review is inappropriate, please let us know." CBHagman Feb 2014 #30
Reagan was bad enough-- YarnAddict Feb 2014 #36

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
3. Sorry - I get really upset
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:21 AM
Feb 2014

at reviews by people who either didn't read the book (or use the product) and/or are paid for the reviews.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
5. How about this five star review?
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:32 AM
Feb 2014

I doubt any of the people who are writing the most recent reviews have actually read the text book... but they have read or seen the Fox News account of what the textbook says.

They're upset over how their beloved hero Ronald Reagan is portrayed. I haven't read the book either, so my opinion of it is no more valid than theirs. What I would do, though, is pay closer attention to the reviews of the people who've actually read the book... not those who have not, but feel they've formed an opinion about it.

You know... critical thinking.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
26. That one is right on point
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:00 AM
Feb 2014

for those of us who haven't read the book.

I did mark as many negative reviews as I could "unhelpful" because they were not at all helpful.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
8. Yes you can. You can say that the negative reviews after Feb 17 2014 were not helpful.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:44 AM
Feb 2014

At the very least you can do that.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
4. They swarm to defend their god
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:25 AM
Feb 2014

I swear, give it thirty years and Reaganism will be conservatism's dominant religion.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
10. Yes, you can do that and you can vote a particular review was "Not helpful".
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:46 AM
Feb 2014

Particularly those negative reviews after Feb 17 2014.

edbermac

(15,941 posts)
13. I have.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:00 AM
Feb 2014

And leaving more comments like "Another idiot writing a review of a book they obviously never read"

And just sitting back watching freeper heads explode.

Response to stevenleser (Original post)

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. It would be helpful for you to know what you are talking about before you post.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:18 AM
Feb 2014

#1 - You will not see a review of the book by me because that was not what I was asking people to do.

#2 - If you clicked on the link and examined the options available to you, besides writing a review, you could click on whether a given persons review was helpful or not. You could also comment. You will note that several persons have done both things on reviews that were written after the various articles came out on the book.

#3 - You will notice that my followup comments have indicated my suggestion that people indicate that reviews were not helpful.

As I noted, it would be helpful for you to know what you are talking about before leaping to nasty assumptions and posting.

Yes. By all means, please link to this and spread the word. Thanks.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
19. Wow, so you posted that nasty stuff expecting me to not defend myself because I had you on ignore?
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:28 AM
Feb 2014

Wouldn't you say that is pretty cowardly?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
21. Almost everyone but you got it right away, the rest except you, got it after I clarified.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:37 AM
Feb 2014

And yes, your attacking me when you knew I had you on ignore and thus with the expectation that I wouldn't defend myself was pretty cowardly.

It looks like you are the one who ended up with egg on your face for whomever reads this thread.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
22. What's really hilarious about this is I think the textbook author was quoting Thomas Sowell when
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:40 AM
Feb 2014

she said that conservatives view others as selfish.....(don't remember exact wording). I suspected the text actually made claims about both liberals and conservatives, but the histrionic student from U of South Carolina didn't dare point that out. I'm quite certain the information about Reagan was taken from another author or study as well.

It seems pretty clear the whole thing was a set up. It's on every right wing website in the world. There is little interest in correcting their slander. They just wanted another notch in the liberal elite indoctrination camps that are American universities bedpost.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
23. Amazon should require a book be purchased before they allow reviews
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:48 AM
Feb 2014

Especially when they see swarms of Yahoos going in and giving it one star. I did click on a bunch of them and say they were "not helpful" reviews.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
27. the Freepers are helping her book sales
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:12 AM
Feb 2014

ok they got it down to 2 stars, but think about this book, called "Introduction to Social Work & Social Welfare: Critical Thinking Perspectives " how many people are going to come across this book in a search, where they would be looking at star ratings, compared to all the national publicity they are giving it.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
31. Of course not...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:16 AM
Feb 2014

But what you are suggesting...very strongly, I might add...is that we descend upon Amazon en masse to screw with the reviews of others.

In essence, acting no better than they are.


Because, you know...the people most likely to benefit from reading something on critical thinking are going to suddenly decide to read the book because someone went there to point out how utterly stupid all those Fox News viewers really are.


and, on the other side, non-Reagan-worshippers are too STUPID to figure out that a majority of those reviews might actually be bogus, and meant to turn people away from reading the book.

Sorry...I don't play those games.

Dishonesty is dishonesty, no matter what one's politics (or motives) are.



 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
33. Define "screw with". Here, Ill help.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:21 AM
Feb 2014

You seem to be defining "screw with" as

"Use a feature of the website (a click button) to indicate that a review is not helpful?
?..."


and

"Write a comment on reviews that seem to be themselves attempts at disruption challenging the author of those reviews with whether they actually read the book or wrote a review without reading it based on media reports"


That is not 'screw with' in my estimation, any more than it is screwing with someone or someone's post by posting a comment on DU challenging someone's assumptions or motives or asking them to provide proof.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
35. I'll define it...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:27 PM
Feb 2014

"Screw with":


Sending a bunch of people to a site to give an opinion on someone's review just because one doesn't agree with that person's politics.


I took a look at some of those reviews and some of the comments. Not much to say about the people who said the review didn't help them, but there were the usual sticks being poked at people who made typos in their reviews.

Ooooh...how terribly witty! If one can't refute an argument any other way, there's always the last resort...finding fault with the person's grammar or spelling.

Disgusting.


Also, I find the occasional entreaties to "DU this poll" on some other site to be rather pointless and childish. Again...screwing with results which, in the larger view, don't mean shit.


The irony is that this sort of thing is expected from Freepers, and when they do it, people here are outraged.

But double standards and all....they can't do it but we can.


I dunno...maybe it's my poor upbringing that makes me believe that double standards suck.




 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
34. Ya know, 'DU this Poll' is a tradition here, people frequently post requests to go vote in some
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:24 PM
Feb 2014

internet poll. This is no different, particularly when Amazon itself invites any and all customers to comment upon the usefulness of any other customer review. Some of the 'reviews' are nothing but right wing blather, pretty easy to honestly say that's not helpful.
I fully support this endeavor.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
30. "If this review is inappropriate, please let us know."
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:51 AM
Feb 2014

Amazon offers that option once you click no on the helpful/unhelpful option. I have no idea how the company deals with trolls, but you could certainly try pointing them out.

On edit: Here's a Fox News story that explains why their fans' collective underwear is twisted:

[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/17/college-textbook-paints-reagan-as-sexist-conservatives-as-pessimists/[/url]

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
36. Reagan was bad enough--
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:08 PM
Feb 2014

--that there was no need for the author to tell some really obvious lies. Didn't appoint women to high ranking positions? What about Sandra Day O'Connor?

This author clearly had a very biased view, and it's too bad that an objective view of history isn't being taught in whatever colleges use this textbook.

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