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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:55 PM Feb 2014

The Snowden Files: The Paragraph began to delete itself.

Luke Harding has written a book about Snowden, he was invited to do so by the Guardian Editors. He went into the secret room, and read many of the documents provided by Edward Snowden before they were destroyed by GCHQ, the British Secret Intelligence Service. I haven't read the book yet, but this article in the Guardian about the book was interesting.

By September the book was going well – 30,000 words done. A Christmas deadline loomed. I was writing a chapter on the NSA's close, and largely hidden, relationship with Silicon Valley. I wrote that Snowden's revelations had damaged US tech companies and their bottom line. Something odd happened. The paragraph I had just written began to self-delete. The cursor moved rapidly from the left, gobbling text. I watched my words vanish. When I tried to close my OpenOffice file the keyboard began flashing and bleeping.

Over the next few weeks these incidents of remote deletion happened several times. There was no fixed pattern but it tended to occur when I wrote disparagingly of the NSA. All authors expect criticism. But criticism before publication by an anonymous, divine third party is something novel. I began to leave notes for my secret reader. I tried to be polite, but irritation crept in. Once I wrote: "Good morning. I don't mind you reading my manuscript – you're doing so already – but I'd be grateful if you don't delete it. Thank you." There was no reply.


This is after people surreptitiously tried to eavesdrop on his meeting with Greenwald, and after an American named "Chris" befriended him and invited him to go out sightseeing in Rio.

Read the whole article, it would be dismissed as a bad spy novel if it wasn't for one thing. We know the NSA/CIA/GCHQ/is there an end to this parade of acronyms/FBI is gathering information on everyone.

Oh I have bought the book. I'm finishing another one now, and soon will be reading it. I have a feeling that it's not going to be like Fred Cook's book, but still it might be interesting.
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gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
1. Could that be more obvious bullshit?
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:13 PM
Feb 2014

That's like some 10 year old child's conception of how Big Brother would try to monitor and suppress criticism in the press.

Deleting isolated little paragraphs of text remotely from someone's computer... while they're writing it so can obviously see what you're doing... and doing it by, what? Some dedicated remote monitor the NSA is paying to sit at a computer stabbing at a backspace key to delete one character at a time in the most clumsy and inefficient and obvious way possible????

Calling that something out of a bad spy novel is an insult to bad spy novels.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
2. As Mr. Harding was thrown out of Putin's Russia for his reporting on the FSB, and wrote
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:19 PM
Feb 2014

a rather good book on being harassed by them, I think he might be credible. Who knows who it was?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
3. If true, whoever did it should be fired from whatever agency was doing it for incompetence...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:23 PM
Feb 2014

if nothing else.

If you have access to the OS to the point it seems whoever was doing this had access, its a simpler, or at least more covert matter to crash the OS and delete the file or revert it to a prior version.

An agent doing this ought to have worried that the person working on the article would whip out a smart phone and video what was happening.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
4. Yes...I agree this is sloppy spycraft. Sort of....so bad it's got to be true.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:26 PM
Feb 2014

But for all we know, Schrodinger's cat was hitting the delete key.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
10. Obviously a moronic ploy to keep interested readers "clicking"
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:38 PM
Feb 2014

sickeningly obvious bs. Perhaps the Guardian IS aiming to capture 10 year olds as "readers"? That would explain it I suppose.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
6. Or they could be trying to send a message of intimidation.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:33 PM
Feb 2014

And do it in a way that didn't sound very plausible when told.

 

seattledo

(295 posts)
7. I wonder if he owns one of the new...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:09 PM
Feb 2014

Snowden action figures:



Actually, I wouldn't mind having one. He's probably done more to support freedom in this country than anyone else.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
8. Just read the article, and watched the vid
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:29 PM
Feb 2014

old news and a wee bit hyped at that, just keeping readers (like me) salivating for more information.

just to be clear: My position is pro-whistleblower, anti-authoritarianism, 'let the sunshine in' citizen/activist.





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