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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:57 PM Feb 2014

If the government falls in Venezuela, will any of the good Chavez and the PSUV did survive?

Will Venezuela still even be an independent country if all or most of the social change ends?

Will the poor and the workers have anything to live or hope for in a "pro-business" Venezuela?

Yes, there might be more antiseptic elections, and "free speech" might have a few more explicit guantees, but do either of those things here make up for OUR having to live our lives under total corporate dominance?

Venezuela in 2014 is not Czechoslovakia in 1989.

And Maduro isn't Stalin or Brezhnev...or even Fidel, for that matter.

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polly7

(20,582 posts)
2. Substitute Obama and a Koch sponsored opposition
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:05 PM
Feb 2014

whose aim it has been to - first, prevent his election, then, since that day, to unseat him, waging a campaign that includes using violence (not for themselves though of course) to force him from office. Would you recommend the same thing?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
5. I have no doubt the president would do great in a debate or talks with the Kock brothers.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:11 PM
Feb 2014

But no I would not recommend the president meet with them but I would recommend he meet with oeople who disagree with them.

7. They can't. Their standard is impossible to meet.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:28 PM
Feb 2014

That's why they don't bother to apply it to their own preferred politicians. Maduro's government can, and should, meet with people that have legitimate grievances and address their issues as best as possible. But the biggest protests are aligned with the opposition that are demanding he resign after a year in office.

I suppose Obama should have resigned after the Teabaggers had their rallies opposing the ACA. After all, if hundreds of thousands of people demonstrate against you, the only fair thing to do is resign and hold new elections.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
6. The pendulum will swing wildly back to the right
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:14 PM
Feb 2014

Only to be rejected when the people's suffering continues. Too many hands, other than Venezuelans, are in the pie.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. the revolution is being betrayed by Maduro & Co.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 08:00 PM
Feb 2014

governing like an incompetent tyrant in the name of the revolution advances the oligarch's agenda moreso than any Koch brothers money could.

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