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yardwork

(61,729 posts)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:38 AM Mar 2012

Sanford police chief cited the Stand Your Ground law as the reason Zimmerman was not arrested

Defenders of Florida's law popularly called Stand Your Ground keep saying that the law has nothing to do with the case, but Sanford police chief Bill Lee himself said that it does. Read his words in the link below:

In his explanation, Lee referred to the “stand your ground” provisions of state law. They say that Floridians have the right “to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force" if they feel threatened. Lee pointed to a part of the statute that says “the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.”

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/22/10808864-police-chief-receives-vote-of-no-confidence-over-handling-of-trayvon-martin-case

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Sanford police chief cited the Stand Your Ground law as the reason Zimmerman was not arrested (Original Post) yardwork Mar 2012 OP
Well, I guess he's right. COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #1
AP article on this today: 'Stand Your Ground Law' at center of Fla. shooting yardwork Mar 2012 #2
...and the city manager published a letter saying that the law PROHIBITED them from pressing charges yardwork Mar 2012 #3
Isn't that what juries are for? DefenseLawyer Mar 2012 #4
That's what I've been thinking for over a week. Sounds like deep corruption in Sanford, Florida. yardwork Mar 2012 #5

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
1. Well, I guess he's right.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:47 AM
Mar 2012

What cop wouldn't believe that a hulking cop wannabe pursuing an unarmed teenager for no good reason and then blows him away didn't have probable cause to use deadly force? Asshole.

yardwork

(61,729 posts)
2. AP article on this today: 'Stand Your Ground Law' at center of Fla. shooting
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:49 AM
Mar 2012
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/22/2707336/stand-your-ground-law-at-center.html

MIAMI -- Florida is among 21 states with a "Stand Your Ground Law," which gives people wide latitude to use deadly force rather than retreat during a fight. The self-defense law helps explain why a neighborhood watch captain has not been arrested in the shooting death of an unarmed teenager.

The Florida law lets police on the scene decide whether they believe the self-defense claim. In many cases, the officers make an arrest and leave it to the courts to work out whether the deadly force is justified. In this case, however, police have said they are confident they did the right thing by not charging 28-year-old George Zimmerman.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/22/2707336/stand-your-ground-law-at-center.html#storylink=cpy

yardwork

(61,729 posts)
3. ...and the city manager published a letter saying that the law PROHIBITED them from pressing charges
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:57 AM
Mar 2012

...the letter, signed by Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr., says. “By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time.” (Caps are theirs.)

At link: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/sanford-city-manager-says-were-barred-arresting-trayvon-134007644.html

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
4. Isn't that what juries are for?
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:04 AM
Mar 2012

I have handled a lot of murder cases in 18 years and yes, I have seen a couple of examples of obvious self defense (a home invasion with witnesses, etc.) where no charges were filed. But never once have I seen the state fail to prosecute a homicide simply because the suspect said "oh that was self defense". The other part of this that boggles my mind is that the "arrest" really has nothing to do with bringing the case. The statute says the police can't arrest without probably cause. Guess what? Even without that law... the police can't arrest without probable cause. This isn't something unique to their Stand Your Ground law. And arrest or no arrest, the District Attorney is the one to determine whether to bring a case. I've had hundreds of cases that were filed without an arrest ever taking place. If the prosecutor is deferring to the police as to what cases to file he or she is not doing his or her job. Period.

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