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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI kind of feel like vetoing SB1062 because of business pressure is missing the point.
Even though I am extremely confident Jan Brewer will veto the bill, the entire situation leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Essentially what this teaches us is that the Arizona government doesn't care about gay people unless it becomes economically expedient to do so. And that is rather cold comfort if you ask me.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Yes, I agree.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)The result is the same even if she's a tool that does the right thing for the wrong reasons.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Cold comfort, maybe. But comfort, nonetheless. I think on the broader horizon, it's a very good thing that business economics don't favor these awful, discriminatory laws.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)when we can get businesses that WANT to be seen as a welcoming to gay people, I'd call it a win, even if kind of a back-handed one. We're turning the tide here, and rather quickly. Let's not be too sensitive about how it's happening.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)All Jan Brewer and this state cares about is the money. They don't give a damn about us.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Laurian
(2,593 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)No matter if it is state level, local level, or national level, and no matter what voting block, that really IS how our government sees us. We are just numbers, with dollar signs before the numbers.
I agree with your point, but I already know that is how they really see us. It's sad and damned depressing.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and ironically it was the "money" argument (his famous "Can you figure out the race of the person who paid this dollar at the ticket window?" -analogy) that Branch Rickey used to get other baseball owners to see the light...
But at the end of the day it's just one of those classic right-wing footballs the GOP likes to kick around every few months when they have nothing better to do and want a national distraction(immigrants, abortion, birth control, etc.)
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)BainsBane
(53,038 posts)Economic pressure is as good as any other kind. The business community made it clear they see inclusivity as essential, so Brewer caved. The point is LGBT Arizonans will not be deprived of their rights, and the GOP learns a lesson that bigotry brings negative consequences for their party. It's a win all the way around.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)community. It wasn't an issue where the businesses were threatening to move conventions or boycott because they thought it would harm their business. They did it because they felt the state's their views weren't acceptable.
It may not be a perfect victory, but the businesses backed the LGBT community over the state legislators, Christians and Republicans. That is it's own victory.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)a terribly positive message, but it does mean the pressure worked. It means the bigots lost. Not only did the bigots lose, but they lost on their home turf. That LGBT friendly groups and people can exert enough pressure to hurt them that badly in a place that's friendly to them means the tide has turned.