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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:19 PM Feb 2014

Unprecedented interruption of Supreme Court Proceedings

by Carl Gibson

Early on Wednesday morning, inside the stuffy chambers of the United States Supreme Court, a man stood up in a crowd of 330 citizens to address the nation’s nine top judges. He wasn’t scheduled to give testimony, and wasn’t a certified legal expert with credentials to present an oral argument in the Supreme Court. His interruption of Supreme Court proceedings would be the first in eight years, and only the second in two decades. And for the first time ever, a citizen speaking freely inside the Supreme Court chamber was caught on video.

“I rise on behalf of the majority of the American people, who believe that money is not speech, corporations are not people, and our democracy should not be for sale to the highest bidder. Overturn Citizens United. Keep the cap in McCutcheon. The people demand democracy,” said Kai Newkirk of the organization 99Rise, before being hauled out of the courtroom and handcuffed. As of this writing, Newkirk is still in jail on charges of “haranguing” and uttering “loud threatening or abusive language" in the Supreme Court building.

Newkirk’s outburst preceded oral arguments for the McCutcheon vs. FEC case, which has been called “Citizens United, Part 2.” Shaun McCutcheon, C.E.O. of the mining industry-focused engineering company Coalmont Electrical Development, is the plaintiff in the case. McCutcheon, of Birmingham, Ala., donated $16,250 to the Alabama Republican Party in 2012. His company has donated to the campaigns of the most obstructionist Republicans in the US Senate, including top Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas, who is credited with initiating the federal government shutdown of 2013. The latest oral arguments for McCutcheon vs. FEC were presented in October. It’s also worth noting that the Republican National Committee has joined McCutcheon in his lawsuit, along with Mitch McConnell himself, whose team of lawyers will be making arguments to the Supreme Court on McConnell’s behalf.

In January of 2010, Citizens United vs. FEC ruled that political contributions are an expression of free speech, allowing corporations to make unlimited political donations. Corporations were given the same rights as people after the Union Pacific Railroad vs. Santa Clara County ruling in 1886. Citizens United also paved the way for the creation of Super PACs – political entities that place no limits to how much one person can give at one time. McCutcheon argues because corporations are people and money is speech, aggregate limits for political contributions from individual citizens are unconstitutional under the First Amendment.

- See more at: http://www.occupy.com/article/unprecendented-interruption-supreme-court-proceedings#sthash.jlcx89ux.dpuf

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Unprecedented interruption of Supreme Court Proceedings (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2014 OP
Need to make it a regular occurrence 1000words Feb 2014 #1
Daily. reformist2 Feb 2014 #13
If corporations are people and money is free speech, tax them like people!!! nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #54
That would constitute radical change. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #63
awesome... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #2
Discussed yesterday: elleng Feb 2014 #3
This is for those of us who didn't see it yesterday HarveyDarkey Feb 2014 #18
Yes, of course. elleng Feb 2014 #20
didn't see it yesterday. 2banon Feb 2014 #37
Unprecedented interruption of a corporate meeting jsr Feb 2014 #4
LOL SunSeeker Feb 2014 #58
My hero. Baitball Blogger Feb 2014 #5
That's a brave man JJChambers Feb 2014 #6
I can see why the words he spoke would be considered Autumn Feb 2014 #7
Obviously terroristic. Octafish Feb 2014 #8
Bravo! rdharma Feb 2014 #9
Recorded on video? frazzled Feb 2014 #10
I think he had a compatriot with a cell phone who videoed it. onenote Feb 2014 #19
Yes, Thanks frazzled, I'm with you on this. elleng Feb 2014 #23
IF there were more "trite" outbursts heaven05 Feb 2014 #26
Hear, Here! 2banon Feb 2014 #35
I think it is great when citizens stand up against those who are destroying this democracy. In sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #59
A Patriot and a Hero. bvar22 Feb 2014 #11
Indeed! 2banon Feb 2014 #38
Exactly. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #41
As an officer of the Court, I can't condone this interruption. Laelth Feb 2014 #12
Is there contempt of court in the Supreme Court? JJChambers Feb 2014 #14
Absolutely. Laelth Feb 2014 #16
The Supreme Court certainly has my contempt! n/t justhanginon Feb 2014 #29
and mine... n/t 2banon Feb 2014 #39
There may be five justices that are a real problem in terms of truedelphi Feb 2014 #15
I don't disagree with you at all. Laelth Feb 2014 #21
K & R malaise Feb 2014 #17
"hauled out and handcuffed"? heaven05 Feb 2014 #22
You think everyone has the legal right to interrupt court proceedings? That isn't free speech. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #32
Somethings REQUIRE disruption. And this Court, this hearing does. 2banon Feb 2014 #40
Sure, but that doesn't make it a legal right. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #46
Did I say it did? 2banon Feb 2014 #47
Was I speaking to you in the first place? No I wasn't. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #51
collapse? heaven05 Feb 2014 #55
“haranguing”? zappaman Feb 2014 #24
I may not like their decisions, but I'd rather they decide treestar Feb 2014 #25
uh.. Citizens United was case law and precedent? hmm. 2banon Feb 2014 #49
did you read the opinion? treestar Feb 2014 #53
wow. just wow. 2banon Feb 2014 #56
But several of the supreme court justices are in fact self righteous know-it alls. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #64
Supreme Court lsewpershad Feb 2014 #27
This guy made my Christmas list. santamargarita Feb 2014 #28
He didn't pay to speak. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #30
Bingo TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #50
Yes. That idea is spot on. $1 =1 vote. glinda Feb 2014 #52
They still let US Citizens into the Supreme Court building?!?! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #31
I am sure Alito was furiously shaking his head kairos12 Feb 2014 #33
I thought this would be about Clarence Thomas actually saying something. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #34
My kind of human. byronius Feb 2014 #36
Citizens United is Fascism. maindawg Feb 2014 #42
Kai Newkirk is a hero. blackspade Feb 2014 #43
Challenging the Master is always difficult nikto Feb 2014 #44
This Supreme Corporatist Court has been increasingly Haranguing LarryNM Feb 2014 #45
Thank you, Kai Newkirk, for shooting rockets up the assholes of five assholes indepat Feb 2014 #48
oh the irony.... mike_c Feb 2014 #57
Free speech is not allowed OldHippieChick Feb 2014 #61
Asking for justice by interrupting the Supreme Corporation of the United States. Right. jtuck004 Feb 2014 #60
The k Berlum Feb 2014 #62
the supreme court is not used to hearing from the lowly people...they are above 'outbursts' spanone Feb 2014 #65

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
7. I can see why the words he spoke would be considered
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:24 PM
Feb 2014

“haranguing” and uttering “loud threatening or abusive language" . That court should be done away with.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
10. Recorded on video?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:42 PM
Feb 2014

The Supreme Court does not videotape its sessions: audio only. And photographing and videotaping are prohibited in the courtroom. So I'm not sure where that statement comes from, unless the protester also selfied himself in the course of his declaration. In which case I'm sure his cellphone would have been confiscated.

I don't think this person was brave: if the outburst had any influence on the court, it would only have been adverse. It was a stock statement, heard millions of times, and not particularly illuminating. Honestly, that is my opinion.

Did he think the Justices are STOOPID? Do you think they don't know that lots of people think corporations are not people and that democracy should not be for sale? Do you think reminding them of this is likely to change any of their opinions, on either side of the question? They base their opinions (rightly or wrongly) on case law and precedents, not on slogans. The Court was wrong on Citizen's United, but no trite outburst is going to change that. Hell, even the President of the United States directly telling them to their faces during the State of the Union address did not change their opinion.

onenote

(42,724 posts)
19. I think he had a compatriot with a cell phone who videoed it.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:13 PM
Feb 2014

And I agree that this was a pointless gesture and not one that I would want condoned. Whether it's the Supreme Court or a local traffic court, individuals interrupting the proceedings by shouting out their particularly view of the merits of the matter before the tribunal is a bad idea. And obviously not one that anyone here would be applauding or even suggesting should be tolerated if it had been made by a RW'er in support of a position with which we don't agree.

elleng

(131,028 posts)
23. Yes, Thanks frazzled, I'm with you on this.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:15 PM
Feb 2014

Apparently a 'friend' of the protester made the video, but I only have circumstantial evidence for my thought on the subject.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
26. IF there were more "trite" outbursts
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:20 PM
Feb 2014

maybe just maybe people would start getting braver to stand up to the corruption that is democracy in america. Speaking to the black robed 'justices' this way let's them know people are aware of their shenanigans and maybe just maybe getting sick of the corporations as people bullshit. I know he was very brave speaking the truth to corrupted power mongers disguised as supreme court justices.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
59. I think it is great when citizens stand up against those who are destroying this democracy. In
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:51 PM
Feb 2014

public, right where they operate on behalf of their wealthy buddies. What he did was great and will get more attention than, what, just sitting around apathetically, either supporting these anti Democratic rulings, or whining about them?

This one act will bring more attention to what they are doing than anything that has been done up to now. And I hope more people have the courage to take similar action.

Funny how it's always okay for those in 'authority' to literally destroy lives, but when an ordinary person uses the same forums to express their opinions, 'it's just not okay'. We are a democracy still aren't we, or we have dropped even the pretense now? THEY are the ones who should be sitting in jail, not a citizen who it appears was pretty polite considering the results of some of the rulings of this court.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
11. A Patriot and a Hero.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:43 PM
Feb 2014

[font size=3]The abuse will end
when we demand an end to the abuse.[/font]



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their promises or excuses.



Laelth

(32,017 posts)
12. As an officer of the Court, I can't condone this interruption.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:58 PM
Feb 2014

That said, I fully agree with what the protester in question said, and I hope he was well-heard by the five Justices that are the real problem.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
16. Absolutely.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:11 PM
Feb 2014

Every Judge has the inherent power to maintain order and decorum in the Court.

-Laelth

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
15. There may be five justices that are a real problem in terms of
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:07 PM
Feb 2014

Keeping secure Roe Vs Wade, but in terms of other matters, all nine are suspect, in one way or another.

Even Obama appointees Kagen and Sotomayor are in the pocket of Monsanto.

Corporations have their stooges not only inside the halls of Congress and the Oval Office, but in the judiciary as well.

One reason I would vote for Elizabeth Warren for President in a heartbeat is that any appointments she makes to our judiciary would not be under the thumbs of the Big Financial and Big Banking firms. Right now, it is almost impossible to win against Big Banking - the judges themselves almost all have ties to the Big Banks.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
21. I don't disagree with you at all.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:13 PM
Feb 2014

That said, Citizens United, the principal case protested in the OP, was a 5-4 decision (iirc). That's the basis for the number I threw out.



-Laelth

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
22. "hauled out and handcuffed"?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:13 PM
Feb 2014

free speech democracy, huh? Bullshit!!!! Mr. Newkirk you have my everlasting respect for your courage for speaking truth to corrupted power.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
51. Was I speaking to you in the first place? No I wasn't.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:09 PM
Feb 2014

You interjected while I was responding to someone else. Whether or not you think it's a legal right is irrelevant to my original argument.

And are you arguing that it shouldn't be a legal right?


No, it should not. Not as long as we place any trust at all in the legal process. If you don't believe in such things, then that is a different story. But a court requires procedure to be effective.

If the one's you agree with can simply walk into a court and bring it to a grinding halt, so can all of the others who you disagree with. And, somehow, I think that is something you wouldn't enjoy very much.

You have no legal right to interfere with the proceedings of a court. Neither is it a matter of free speech.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. I may not like their decisions, but I'd rather they decide
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:19 PM
Feb 2014

than some self righteous know-it-all. They at least decided on terms of case law and precedent. Not knee-jerk emotions.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
64. But several of the supreme court justices are in fact self righteous know-it alls.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:16 PM
Feb 2014

And several have a conflict of interest. Or haven't you been made aware of that yet?

That decision made in the late 19th Century was the result of a mistaken transcription. There is your precedent, based on a clerical error. http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/node/664#.UxD8F87647s

Can't you recognize the damage the Citizens United decision has done to the nation?

Why would you be passionately on the side of what is recognized as a strictly far right wing decision that is wrong for the nation?

kairos12

(12,863 posts)
33. I am sure Alito was furiously shaking his head
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:22 PM
Feb 2014

Maybe the protester should have waited till Roberts spoke and yelled "liar."

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
43. Kai Newkirk is a hero.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:07 PM
Feb 2014


Newkirk is still in jail on charges of “haranguing” and uttering “loud threatening or abusive language" in the Supreme Court building.

Bullshit.

LarryNM

(493 posts)
45. This Supreme Corporatist Court has been increasingly Haranguing
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:22 PM
Feb 2014

the 99% with the Loud Threatening and Abusive Language of its decisions and with spoken
words (especially Scalia).

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
57. oh the irony....
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:52 PM
Feb 2014

A citizen was arrested for speaking to the court about a case that expands "free speech" to include corporations.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
60. Asking for justice by interrupting the Supreme Corporation of the United States. Right.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:54 PM
Feb 2014


Sir, are you a shareholder, or just one of those we make charitable donations to?

spanone

(135,855 posts)
65. the supreme court is not used to hearing from the lowly people...they are above 'outbursts'
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 05:42 PM
Feb 2014

worse court ever.

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