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William769

(55,147 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:24 PM Feb 2014

Arizona Vetoed, But Is The GOP Listening?



While on stage at the University of Miami on Wednesday night, Hillary Clinton broke the news that Arizona governor Jan Brewer had vetoed her state's "license to discriminate" bill, suggesting it could be a sign of the times. “Inclusive leadership is really what the 21st century is all about,” Clinton said to huge applause. Any shrewd political operator could have told you that, but what's unfortunate is how many in the Republican Party seem poised to overlook the significance of this moment.

Bills like Arizona's have been proposed by conservative factions all over the country, in Maine, Idaho, Tennessee, Georgia, Ohio, Kansas, Mississippi, South Dakota, Indiana, and Texas.

As I watched Rachel Maddow last night flash on screen a map of all the places where Republican lawmakers have considered kindred antigay laws, it reminded me of a similar map she'd often pull up for dramatic effect during the last election (the one in which Republicans unexpectedly lost seats in both the House and Senate). A rash of bills sought to limit abortion to smaller windows during pregnancy, or used quirks in law to virtually eradicate all clinics from the state, and some states even proposed those weird bills that required a physical exam to get an abortion and had Maddow nicknaming Bob McDonnell of Virginia as "Governor Ultrasound."

All of that wackiness was happening in the background when the likes of Todd Akin, who was running for Senate in Missouri, started making clueless comments about rape. The "War on Women" became a winning theme for Democrats. And if Republicans don't wake up soon, Democrats may dare to take advantage with the "War on Your Gay Neighbor."

http://www.advocate.com/commentary/lucas-grindley/2014/02/27/op-ed-arizona-vetoed-gop-listening
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Arizona Vetoed, But Is The GOP Listening? (Original Post) William769 Feb 2014 OP
Nope, they aren't listening, William. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #1
No argument from me! William769 Feb 2014 #2
Why thank you~ sheshe2 Feb 2014 #5
I saw an article that these bills are slowing down Gothmog Feb 2014 #3
Agreed. William769 Feb 2014 #4

sheshe2

(83,833 posts)
1. Nope, they aren't listening, William.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:41 PM
Feb 2014

My hope is that they hold their collective breath long enough to turn some states blue.

"Not Voting", is not an option, we need to vote as if our lives depended upon it. In fact they do.

Gothmog

(145,427 posts)
3. I saw an article that these bills are slowing down
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:47 PM
Feb 2014

I hope that these reports are correct.

I have been looking at these bills and I am convinced that these bills would be ruled unconstitutional in any court challenge. To get nerdy, these bills in effect make everyone a "state actor" as to the First Amendment religious rights. There is a good body of case law about why these rights only apply to state actors and the states can not expand these rights without changing the US Constitution.

William769

(55,147 posts)
4. Agreed.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:51 PM
Feb 2014

They have slowed down but only so they can regroup. The sad thin is if one does get passed how long will it take to be ruled unconstitutional? Looks at whats going on with marriage equality. We are winning because we are right but the process for even something as basic as this can come to a snails crawl.

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