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okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:57 PM Feb 2014

Ukraine leader warns Russia after armed men seize government HQ in Crimea

(Reuters) - Armed men seized the regional government headquarters and parliament in Ukraine's Crimea on Thursday and raised the Russian flag, alarming Kiev's new rulers, who urged Moscow not to abuse its navy base rights on the peninsula by moving troops around.

SNIP

It was not immediately known who was occupying the buildings in the regional capital Simferopol and they issued no demands, but witnesses said they spoke Russian and appeared to be ethnic Russian separatists.

Interfax news agency quoted a witness as saying there were about 60 people inside and they had many weapons. It said no one had been hurt when the buildings were seized in the early hours by Russian speakers in uniforms that did not carry identification markings.

"We were building barricades in the night to protect parliament. Then this young Russian guy came up with a pistol ... we all lay down, some more ran up, there was some shooting and around 50 went in through the window," Leonid Khazanov, an ethnic Russian, told Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/27/us-ukraine-crisis-crimea-idUSBREA1P23U20140227

This is what people should be most concerned about. The local Russian speaking Crimeans haven't taken over that building. 50 well armed Russian speakers in uniforms that did not carry identification markings did. The well armed Russian speaking militia told local police they would contact them, but have not done so. ???????

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Ukraine leader warns Russia after armed men seize government HQ in Crimea (Original Post) okaawhatever Feb 2014 OP
As has been pointed out elsewhere dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #1
The protesters in Kiev flew the a Ukranian flag.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #2
In which case dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #3
What flag is flying over parliament right now? It ain't Russian... at least not yet. Adrahil Feb 2014 #8
You realize, of course, that you're arguing with someone Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #5
+1. William769 Feb 2014 #6
I do... but I'm trying to keep the discussion on target.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #9
No, it's not spin. It's reality. AS REPORTED BY PRO-RUSSIAN ACTIVISTS LIVING IN CRIMEA. okaawhatever Feb 2014 #7
but, but freedom! KG Feb 2014 #4

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
1. As has been pointed out elsewhere
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:04 PM
Feb 2014

In Kiev such people were referred to as protestors whilst in Crimea they are referred to as armed gunmen.

Spin, spin , spin.....................

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
2. The protesters in Kiev flew the a Ukranian flag....
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:07 PM
Feb 2014

.... These raised the Russian flag. There's some spin going on alright....

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. In which case
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:11 PM
Feb 2014

you shouldn't have too much difficulty in finding a picture of the protesters in Kiev breaking into government building waving a Ukraine flag whilst doing so.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. You realize, of course, that you're arguing with someone
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:24 PM
Feb 2014

whose avatar is of a mass-murdering racist on behalf of an imperialist USSR.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
9. I do... but I'm trying to keep the discussion on target....
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:32 PM
Feb 2014

I know the poster in question tends to be, ummm.... , pro-Kremlin, but there you go.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
7. No, it's not spin. It's reality. AS REPORTED BY PRO-RUSSIAN ACTIVISTS LIVING IN CRIMEA.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:52 PM
Feb 2014

Maxim, a pro-Russian activist who refused to give his last name, told the Associated Press that he and other activists had been camping out overnight outside the local parliament in Crimea’s regional capital, Simferopol, when heavily armed men wearing flak jackets, and holding rocket-propelled grenade launchers and sniper rifles took over the building. He said:

Our activists were sitting there all night calmly, building the barricades. At 5 o’clock unknown men turned up and went to the building. They got into the courtyard and put everyone on the ground.

They were asking who we were. When we said we stand for the Russian language and Russia, they said: ‘Don’t be afraid, we’re with you.’ Then they began to storm the building bringing down the doors.

They didn’t look like volunteers or amateurs, they were professionals. This was clearly a well-organised operation. They did not allow anyone to come near. They seized the building, drove out the police, there were about six police officers inside.

Who are they? Nobody knows. It’s about 50-60 people, fully armed.

We will have all the developments as they happen

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/ukraine-pro-russian-gunmen-seize-crimea-parliament-live-updates

Fears of a major regional conflict in Crimea pitting Russia against the west have intensified after unknown pro-Russian gunmen seized fficials. the government and parliament building in a well co-ordinated military operation.

According to witnesses, the men dressed in fatigues stormed Crimea's regional administrative complex in Simferopol at 5am on Thursday. They hoisted a Russian flag above the parliament building. About 120 men were holed up inside, armed with heavy weapons including rocket-propelled grenades and sniper rifles, witnesses said.

They threw a flash grenade in response to a journalist's questions. Calls to region's legislature rang unanswered, and its website was down.

It was unclear if the men were members of a pro-Russian self-defence militia formed in the aftermath of Ukraine's revolution or undercover Russian soldiers.

Speaking in Kiev, the former head of the Crimean parliament, Serhiy Kunitsyn, described the men as "professionally trained". He said he had been on the phone to Crimea "all night". The gunmen were heavily armed, he said, with enough weaponry to defend the complex "for a month".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/crimean-parliament-seized-by-unknown-pro-russian-gunmen


“Nobody knows who, what or why,” said a resident who identified himself only as Gennady and who voiced alarm that the armed action could set off a spiral of violence in a region riven by political, ethnic and religious differences.

The leader of a group called the Russian Movement for Crimea read out Mr. Yanukovych’s reported statement declaring himself to be the legitimate president. “We agree, we agree,” the crowd shouted. One man shouted through a bullhorn: “We are not separatists. Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are one country.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/28/world/europe/crimea-ukraine.html?hpw&rref=world



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