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China Train Station Mass Stabbing: 27 Dead (Original Post) The Straight Story Mar 2014 OP
Graphic image warning Go Vols Mar 2014 #1
That's horrible... I wonder if we'll ever hear of a motive. penultimate Mar 2014 #4
My wife's friends living in Kunming said it is Xinjiang separatists s Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #17
I hope that none of your wife's HappyMe Mar 2014 #23
Thus far, she has not heard that any of them were affected Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #24
I will keep a good thought for her and her loved ones. HappyMe Mar 2014 #26
Buy popcorn futures, right fugging now!1 Fumesucker Mar 2014 #2
I wonder how many American gun lobbyists just came in their pants hearing this news? Electric Monk Mar 2014 #3
Why do you associate sex with firearms? Lurks Often Mar 2014 #5
Ok then, to paraphrase: Got so happy and excited they had a physiological response of some sort. Electric Monk Mar 2014 #6
Maybe you should see a professional to discuss why you associate firearms with sex and orgasms Lurks Often Mar 2014 #8
Maybe you should read post #7. nt Electric Monk Mar 2014 #9
We where discussing YOUR issues equating firearms w/sex & orgasms Lurks Often Mar 2014 #10
Using your own vernacular so you could understand me. You knew exactly what I meant. Electric Monk Mar 2014 #11
You're not very good at this Lurks Often Mar 2014 #15
Here's an excerpt from the book I referred to earlier Electric Monk Mar 2014 #21
The author's opinion doesn't make it true Lurks Often Mar 2014 #39
Sure, like he wrote those bumperstickers. I've seen them too. You're hilarious. nt Electric Monk Mar 2014 #40
You're the one that choose to post your nonsense Lurks Often Mar 2014 #53
Wrong pipi_k Mar 2014 #49
Because it is a common argument of the anti-gun crowd Lurks Often Mar 2014 #52
Interesting, Tarention knows what he's doing flamingdem Mar 2014 #50
There's a book, Open Fire: Understanding Global Gun Cultures Electric Monk Mar 2014 #13
Yeah, it's just the anti-gunners who say that stuff 'cause they're not real men, or something ... Scuba Mar 2014 #7
Same way bigots assumed that homosexuals must all be pedophiles to boot... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #43
Dunno about that, but this gun humper is *ahem* excited! Rex Mar 2014 #14
*GRAPHIC IMAGE WARNING*, *GRAPHIC IMAGE WARNING*!!!!!! smokey775 Mar 2014 #18
Get some help with your obsession about guns. geckosfeet Mar 2014 #28
I'll make you a deal: When gun deaths in America drop below 20,000 a year, I'll relax about it. Electric Monk Mar 2014 #32
re: "My" obsession, here's the LBN thread, which I haven't posted in yet. Electric Monk Mar 2014 #37
You must feel so warm and fuzzy about it all. Ur so smart to hate the right people. geckosfeet Mar 2014 #46
just curious. frwrfpos Mar 2014 #41
Necessary, especially with an armed populace, but that's really a topic for a different thread. nt Electric Monk Mar 2014 #45
Imagine how many people would have been killed if the attackers had AK-47's with 30 bullet magazines Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #12
That is my wife's home town Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #16
Seems the anti's are out in force using this incident to demonize gun owners. geckosfeet Mar 2014 #29
Either side doing so is reprehensible Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #30
Anticipating the inevitable use of this incident by the pro-gunners to say: Electric Monk Mar 2014 #31
Mmmm hhmmm. Thoughtfully stroking my beard. geckosfeet Mar 2014 #44
Pretending they didn't try that tactic after Newtown? Here's a link for you. Electric Monk Mar 2014 #47
Ohhhhh. Ya got me. I am so humiliated and beaten. geckosfeet Mar 2014 #48
Yep. The only snark has been from the anti gun crew seveneyes Mar 2014 #35
Fully agree sarisataka Mar 2014 #36
Tragic, just tragic. smokey775 Mar 2014 #19
This is horrible. HappyMe Mar 2014 #20
Thoughts and condolences Token Republican Mar 2014 #22
Agreed. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #25
Blow me down! HappyMe Mar 2014 #27
China: Train Station Attack an Act of Terrorism FarCenter Mar 2014 #33
It was clearly pre-meditated and organized, so I would have to agree. Electric Monk Mar 2014 #34
Life for the Uyghurs is about to get a lot tougher. Loudly Mar 2014 #38
No matter who's actually responsible, the Uyghurs are an easy scapegoat. Chathamization Mar 2014 #51
Holy fucking shit! JVS Mar 2014 #42

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
4. That's horrible... I wonder if we'll ever hear of a motive.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 02:47 PM
Mar 2014

*in before this tragedy in China somehow manages to get turned into a debate about domestic policies in the US by people who think everything has to be about America (good or bad)


Oh snap, I just did it myself. I hate myself.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
5. Why do you associate sex with firearms?
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:28 PM
Mar 2014

It's ALWAYS the anti-gun gun crowd that equates sex with firearms. That's weird and really kind of sick. Sounds like you're the one who has the issues with sex and firearms.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
6. Ok then, to paraphrase: Got so happy and excited they had a physiological response of some sort.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:33 PM
Mar 2014

Did you?

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
8. Maybe you should see a professional to discuss why you associate firearms with sex and orgasms
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:37 PM
Mar 2014

before you start projecting your own issues on others.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
10. We where discussing YOUR issues equating firearms w/sex & orgasms
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:45 PM
Mar 2014

Adversing has a long history of using attractive people to sell things including food, cigarettes, clothes, cars, motorcycles, romance novels and probably a dozen more categories.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
11. Using your own vernacular so you could understand me. You knew exactly what I meant.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:48 PM
Mar 2014

Nice try at twisting and projection, though.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
21. Here's an excerpt from the book I referred to earlier
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:15 PM
Mar 2014


...copied from Google Books. Look it up yourself if you want more.
 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
39. The author's opinion doesn't make it true
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:22 PM
Mar 2014

The only people who associate sex with guns are invariably the anti-rights/anti gun crowd.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
53. You're the one that choose to post your nonsense
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:59 PM
Mar 2014

in a post regarding a horrible, probably politically motivated, attack.

There is a lot of hate in you. Can't imagine going through life with that much hate in me.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
49. Wrong
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:55 PM
Mar 2014

I'm not pro gun, I'm not anti gun. I do have a few guns in my home, however.

Sometimes I do have a tendency to see men who love guns as having a particular penile fixation. Or, to put it another way, it often seems to me that they're trying to compensate for what they feel they may lack.

Whether that's true or not...who knows.

IMO, the person you've been fighting with here wasn't equating the GUN with sex. He seemed to be saying that gun-types were likely having paroxysms of delight over the fact that one of the few hundred times already this year humans died, it wasn't by way of a gun.

He could just as easily have said that no doubt the gun lovers would be pissing themselves silly over it. But it came out the way it did.

I'm not saying he has a gun=sex obsession, but even if he did...

What's it to you?

Humans manage to find a hundred ways to kill each other, whether it's guns, knives, bombs, poison, crashing airplanes or whatever.

But you choose to focus on whether or not a random person on an internet discussion group has a guns=sex obsession. I just wonder why...



 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
52. Because it is a common argument of the anti-gun crowd
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:32 PM
Mar 2014

and not the first time this poster has made the comparison:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=138447

And I agree, the human species has been killing each other for thousands of years, be it with bare hands or nukes.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
13. There's a book, Open Fire: Understanding Global Gun Cultures
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:54 PM
Mar 2014

I refer you to Part 2, Chapters 7 & 8


Sexualization of gun culture is not my side's problem, it's yours. You guys were doing it long before we started pointing out that you were doing it.

kthxbye

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. Yeah, it's just the anti-gunners who say that stuff 'cause they're not real men, or something ...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:35 PM
Mar 2014










 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
43. Same way bigots assumed that homosexuals must all be pedophiles to boot...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:54 PM
Mar 2014

That's how they imagine it so that must be true...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Dunno about that, but this gun humper is *ahem* excited!
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:54 PM
Mar 2014

"See! Guns don't kill people...knives do...there, there My Precious Package!"
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
32. I'll make you a deal: When gun deaths in America drop below 20,000 a year, I'll relax about it.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:28 PM
Mar 2014

Deal?

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
37. re: "My" obsession, here's the LBN thread, which I haven't posted in yet.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:52 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014742374

1. Cue the gun lovers in three... two... one...

...

7. Thank god someone that intent on carnage wasn't armed like our gun fanciers.

...

11. A group of men, so could have been a dozen or more.
So don't get all hot and bothered with your NRA issued talking points, gungeoneers.

...

13. Sad news,
the only thing possibly sadder are people trying to turn it into an American Gun issue.

15. Hello?
Turning it into a gun issuer here is SADDER than all those poor folks dead and wounded in China? Pull it out, screwball.
 

frwrfpos

(517 posts)
41. just curious.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:47 PM
Mar 2014

what do you think about our violent police state having guns? Do you have a problem with the military having guns?

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
12. Imagine how many people would have been killed if the attackers had AK-47's with 30 bullet magazines
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:53 PM
Mar 2014

I can't imagine the horror!

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
16. That is my wife's home town
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:57 PM
Mar 2014

And by the way, that is really shitty if anyone is using this tragedy to exploit their political agendas rather than mourn the loss of life. Chinese are people too--not props for gungeoneers.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
31. Anticipating the inevitable use of this incident by the pro-gunners to say:
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:19 PM
Mar 2014

"See, why restrict guns at all, this latest school shooter could've just use a knife, like happened that one time in China."

We both know that's going to happen. After Sandy Hook, many were pointing to knifing incidents that hadn't even killed anyone, trying to make that same argument.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
44. Mmmm hhmmm. Thoughtfully stroking my beard.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:55 PM
Mar 2014

Not really. I don't have a beard.

But i can make stuff up too.

sarisataka

(18,769 posts)
36. Fully agree
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:51 PM
Mar 2014

Though I'm from the "other side" my first thought is simply how horrible.

Hopes wishes and prayers to your family members living there and all victims

 

smokey775

(228 posts)
19. Tragic, just tragic.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:02 PM
Mar 2014

My heart goes out the victims of this horrendous crime.
RIP to the victims and condolences to the families.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
20. This is horrible.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:10 PM
Mar 2014

I can't imagine minding your own damn business and then a whole group attacks.






It's a shame that the usual childish bickering broke out in this thread.

 

Token Republican

(242 posts)
22. Thoughts and condolences
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:19 PM
Mar 2014

The victims and their families.

There may be people who read these forums who have family or friends involved.

Some comments have been disgusting and should be removed.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
27. Blow me down!
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:34 PM
Mar 2014

I'm agreeing with a Republican!

There are issues in life that transcend political parties, and are human issues.

Welcome to DU.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
33. China: Train Station Attack an Act of Terrorism
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:34 PM
Mar 2014
A Xinhua reporter on the scene in Kunming said several suspects had been "controlled" while police continued their investigation of people at the station. The reporter said firefighters and emergency medical personnel were at the station and rushing injured people to hospitals for treatment.

The authorities said five suspects were shot dead but that their identities had not yet been confirmed, Xinhua reported. Overall, 28 people were confirmed dead and 113 injured, it said.

Yang Haifei, a Yunnan province resident who was being treated at the hospital for wounds to his chest and back, told Xinhua that he was buying a ticket when he saw a group of people, most of them dressed in black, rush into the station and start attacking people.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/knife-wielding-men-attack-sw-china-train-station-22730405
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
34. It was clearly pre-meditated and organized, so I would have to agree.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 05:40 PM
Mar 2014

Good thing they didn't have guns or bombs, though, or the tragic civilian death toll would have been much higher.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
51. No matter who's actually responsible, the Uyghurs are an easy scapegoat.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:29 AM
Mar 2014

It could be separatists, but who knows? I doubt any story about internal power struggles would get past the censors.

And it's pretty miserable for Uyghurs now, as the government is trying to turn Xinjiang into a Han dominated province through oppression and population transfers. It doesn't help that their's heavy discrimination against them in other parts of China as well.

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