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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:41 PM Mar 2014

Russia Slams Kerry’s ‘Threats’ Over Ukraine

MOSCOW, March 3 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian Foreign Ministry on Monday condemned as “unacceptable threats” comments made by the US Secretary of State John Kerry over possible Russian military action in Ukraine.

The Russian parliament granted a request from President Vladimir Putin to authorize deployment of military forces in Ukraine on Saturday. In a series of public remarks over the weekend, Kerry called the move a "brazen act of aggression" and threatened Moscow with devastating economic and political consequences.

“We consider there are unacceptable threats against Russia in the series of public statements by Secretary of State John Kerry in connection with the recent events in Ukraine and Crimea,” the ministry said in a statement.

"Without bothering to grasp the complicated trends underway in Ukrainian society and to gain an unbiased insight into the situation that continues to deteriorate after the violent seizure of power by radical extremists in Ukraine, the Secretary of State continues to employ Cold War clichés by suggesting punishment of Russia instead of those responsible for the state coup.”

The statement continued: “Washington also ignored that Kiev’s newly established regime trampled on the February 21 [reconciliation] agreement, signed by foreign ministers of Germany, France and Poland, and formed the “government of winners” that de-facto declared a war on the Russian language and everything Russian.”

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http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140303/188058665/Russia-Slams-Kerrys-Threats-over-Ukraine.html

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Russia Slams Kerry’s ‘Threats’ Over Ukraine (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2014 OP
K & R ...and waiting for the Russian news bashers L0oniX Mar 2014 #1
"declared a war on.... everything Russian" cali Mar 2014 #31
* L0oniX Mar 2014 #48
My how times have changed. They sound like real people, our leaders sound like programmed robots. reformist2 Mar 2014 #2
in that violent goons and thugs are real people, you are correct nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #7
The violent goons are the ones who took over in the Ukraine. reformist2 Mar 2014 #9
you forgot to mention babies being taken out of incubators geek tragedy Mar 2014 #11
Some people won't let facts get in the way of their desired military intervention. L0oniX Mar 2014 #29
just like some people don't recognize facts geek tragedy Mar 2014 #35
Like our corporate media is any better. L0oniX Mar 2014 #40
actually, it is. a lot of it is very, very sucky, but there's geek tragedy Mar 2014 #42
Journalists are under attack here. L0oniX Mar 2014 #44
IMO you are correct. L0oniX Mar 2014 #43
+1 NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #22
My thoughts exactly IsItJustMe Mar 2014 #12
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Mar 2014 #3
Nobody here supports Putin. ProSense Mar 2014 #4
I called this poster on it yesterday. I imagine this if fun for the poster Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #6
I know. There was a poster yesterday just stompin' and yellin' Whisp Mar 2014 #10
awww, the thugs in Moscow don't like the idea of non-violent sanctions geek tragedy Mar 2014 #5
The US prefers to back the Ukrainian skinheads over those Russian "thugs"... L0oniX Mar 2014 #14
Amazing the number of neo-nazi supporters around this joint, eh? eom Purveyor Mar 2014 #16
Yep L0oniX Mar 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Mar 2014 #27
Really? Who Renew Deal Mar 2014 #28
no way that person will have the courage to name the person geek tragedy Mar 2014 #33
Was your other deleted message at risk for an alert? L0oniX Mar 2014 #34
are you going to have the courage to name the "neo-nazi supporter" geek tragedy Mar 2014 #36
No, it was fine Renew Deal Mar 2014 #37
Prove this wrong... L0oniX Mar 2014 #41
The number is zero. And to claim anyone here is a "Neo-Nazi supporters" is a smear geek tragedy Mar 2014 #21
Ukraine Ethnic Purity Extremists [Neo Nazis] threaten Russians, Jews, non-whites L0oniX Mar 2014 #23
You and your fellow traveler made the sleazy insinuation that there are geek tragedy Mar 2014 #24
One mans opinion as to what they think ...may be what others call innuendoes. L0oniX Mar 2014 #26
No, no honest person could believe there are nazi sympathizers in this thread. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #30
Maybe no more than there are Putin lovers. L0oniX Mar 2014 #38
there are no Putin lovers, just those who are rooting for him geek tragedy Mar 2014 #39
Ukraine Ethnic Purity Extremists threaten Russians, Jews, non-whites L0oniX Mar 2014 #47
And strawmen. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #54
A rather Bushian argument from you--we're either with you and Mother Russia geek tragedy Mar 2014 #18
So the article at Daily Kos is just bullshit? L0oniX Mar 2014 #46
The US isn't backing either side. They're merely telling Russia to stay out of it. chrisa Mar 2014 #51
Pathetic Putin Propaganda. Sorry, I have an I.Q. above 70 I'm not playing. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #8
...because the best propaganda comes from the US ...no need to get jealous. L0oniX Mar 2014 #17
the right wingers in israel are saying the same things about him JI7 Mar 2014 #13
Radical extremists my ass...more bullshit from scum Putin...nt joeybee12 Mar 2014 #15
Do you think this article at Daily Kos is russian propaganda? L0oniX Mar 2014 #45
Yeah, I do...this is bullshit... joeybee12 Mar 2014 #49
And in Russia, if you are LGBT their extremists beat, kidnap and pass laws against you. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #52
The LGBT community understandably hates Putin ...no matter what he does in the Ukraine. L0oniX Mar 2014 #53
Why didn't Russia sign the Feb. 21st agreement that they now want to uphold? TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #19
Well, damn, even war mongering McCain is dialing back the war drum rhetoric a bit quinnox Mar 2014 #25
"threatened Moscow with devastating economic and political consequences"... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #32
So, RT, Pravda, and now RIA. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #50
 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
1. K & R ...and waiting for the Russian news bashers
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:44 PM
Mar 2014
“Washington also ignored that Kiev’s newly established regime trampled on the February 21 agreement, signed by foreign ministers of Germany, France and Poland, and formed the “government of winners” that de-facto declared a war on the Russian language and everything Russian.”
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
31. "declared a war on.... everything Russian"
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:32 PM
Mar 2014

that kind of editorializing and hyperbole is propaganda in itself. I don't know why people accept any propaganda no matter where it comes from.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
35. just like some people don't recognize facts
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:35 PM
Mar 2014

that aren't spoon fed to them by Russia's state-owned media

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
42. actually, it is. a lot of it is very, very sucky, but there's
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:47 PM
Mar 2014

actual journalism and competition that nevertheless makes its way into consumption. And it does wind up criticizing the government.

As opposed to Russia, where journalists get thrown in jail for badmouthing Big Brother.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
12. My thoughts exactly
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:56 PM
Mar 2014

Scary, isn't it. The Russians seems to have taken a more advanced propaganda class or something.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
6. I called this poster on it yesterday. I imagine this if fun for the poster
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:53 PM
Mar 2014

but I can't quite figure out why.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
10. I know. There was a poster yesterday just stompin' and yellin'
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:55 PM
Mar 2014

about that.

show me. SHOW me. links. LINKs.



I think it may be cricket babysitting time again.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. awww, the thugs in Moscow don't like the idea of non-violent sanctions
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:53 PM
Mar 2014

for their invasion of a neighboring country

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
14. The US prefers to back the Ukrainian skinheads over those Russian "thugs"...
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:58 PM
Mar 2014

and the skinheads would thank you for your approval.

Response to L0oniX (Reply #20)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
33. no way that person will have the courage to name the person
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:33 PM
Mar 2014

whom he suspects of being a "Neo-Nazi sympathizer."

No way.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
34. Was your other deleted message at risk for an alert?
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:34 PM
Mar 2014

Fortunately people can still think what they want ...and ...even relative to the news sources they consider to be valid ...or not.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. are you going to have the courage to name the "neo-nazi supporter"
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:36 PM
Mar 2014

you suspect is in this thread, as well as providing your evidence that this person is a "neo-nazi supporter?"

Because if you don't, well, that looks rather weak.

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
37. No, it was fine
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:38 PM
Mar 2014

And it was my first message in this tread so I didn't think you were talking about me.

That's great that they can think what they want, but if there are neo-nazis on DU they need to be removed. You have clearly discovered them. Be brave and name names.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. The number is zero. And to claim anyone here is a "Neo-Nazi supporters" is a smear
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:10 PM
Mar 2014

so brazen and dishonest it would make Dick Cheney blush.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. You and your fellow traveler made the sleazy insinuation that there are
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:22 PM
Mar 2014

Neo-Nazi supporters in this very thread.

Not in the Ukraine.

In this thread.

If you suspect someone is a Neo-Nazi supporter, you should report their account to Skinner and EarlG, and have the courage to call them out as such, or you should keep such sleazy innuendo to yourself.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
39. there are no Putin lovers, just those who are rooting for him
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:41 PM
Mar 2014

out of nostalgia for their beloved USSR

I mean, there are people who quote propaganda from Pravda, without irony.

And, note to the jury, I am NOT accusing anyone in this thread of this.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. A rather Bushian argument from you--we're either with you and Mother Russia
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:07 PM
Mar 2014

or we're with the terrorists.

Of course, the US does NOT support the skinheads, and furthermore your claim that they have my "approval" is equally false.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
49. Yeah, I do...this is bullshit...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:24 AM
Mar 2014

There are probably that kind of element on both sides, but to act as if this is entirely what this is all about is garbage that the feeble minded, like Kos, live for.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
52. And in Russia, if you are LGBT their extremists beat, kidnap and pass laws against you.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:06 PM
Mar 2014

So it is very difficult for me to see Russia as being motivated by human rights concerns because they have been oppressing their own people and defending those actions loudly. If you want to sell a government as being heroes of human rights, you should get them to cease pogrom like laws and behaviors against minority groups for a few months in advance of the sales pitch. 'Yes we pass laws against our own minorities, threaten them, beat them and jail them, but at the same time we are offended when a small faction in a neighboring country speaks equally venomous rhetoric' just sounds stupid, frankly. 'We will drop the clubs we use against the gays and turn them on the bigots in Ukraine!!!!'

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
53. The LGBT community understandably hates Putin ...no matter what he does in the Ukraine.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:31 PM
Mar 2014

Yes it seems to be a pick choose deal ...attack the anti LGBT element or Nazis or Russianistas or racists and bigots. Way to much to handle all at the same time ...and then there is the priorities. What other countries can we put on the list to attack for their human rights violations. I suppose it would be what ever is in the national security (corporate) interests. I don't think they really give a damn about human rights ...and of course hypocritically we have a bad history over human rights.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
19. Why didn't Russia sign the Feb. 21st agreement that they now want to uphold?
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:08 PM
Mar 2014

Presumably they didn't like the terms. Did they tell Yanukovich to flee, and aid him, so that they could claim the new government was illegitimate?

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
25. Well, damn, even war mongering McCain is dialing back the war drum rhetoric a bit
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:25 PM
Mar 2014

Surely Kerry can follow suit.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
32. "threatened Moscow with devastating economic and political consequences"...
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:33 PM
Mar 2014

Guess who is currently supplying Europe the lion's share of fossil fuels?



Who could sanction whom?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
50. So, RT, Pravda, and now RIA.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:40 AM
Mar 2014

Come on guys, can we maybe find some sources that AREN'T Russian state news agencies? These are about as credible as RFE/RL.

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