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Archae

(46,337 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:31 PM Mar 2014

Why are so many black conservatives so damn stupid?

Here's a beautiful example, Mychal Massie from WND.

WND: 'You Can Make A Black Woman The First Lady, But That Doesn't Mean She Will Have Any Class'

Submitted by Brian Tashman on Tuesday, 3/4/2014 11:45 am

WorldNetDaily’s Mychal Massie writes today that the new nutrition facts label championed by Michelle Obama is proof that she’s a “bigoted, racialist” first lady who is “usurping authority and inflicting additional financial injury upon an already suffering people.” Massie claims the cost of the program will add “more unnecessary financial burden” to families; in fact, the New York Times reports that in total, “the health benefits could eventually be as much as $30 billion.” Citing an article from the tabloid the National Enquirer about the first lady’s “disgusting” and “privileged position,” Massie writes that Michelle Obama should “stick to doing jumping-jacks and writhing around on the floor of Ellen DeGeneres’ set, much to the delight of DeGeneres.”

- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/wnd-you-can-make-black-woman-first-lady-doesnt-mean-she-will-have-any-class#sthash.cfwaEZZY.dpuf

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Why are so many black conservatives so damn stupid? (Original Post) Archae Mar 2014 OP
Because their paychecks depend on it?? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #1
Thread Over. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #20
for the win! La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #40
Because it always sounds stupid to degrade oneself, and that doesn't apply only to one group... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #2
I was thinking the same thing WRT right wing women. Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #36
I know! I don't get it at all. It's a bit like kicking oneself. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #37
The only thing I can think of is... Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #39
That could be. Feeling superior to others who are like him/herself. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #41
Consider this: MrScorpio Mar 2014 #3
This makes sense ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2014 #10
Really interesting take. Raine1967 Mar 2014 #17
Interesting. They would by necessity have to ramp up the self-hate. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #21
Bingo! BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #24
Another damn fool beltanefauve Mar 2014 #30
they're no stupider than any other conservatives cali Mar 2014 #4
+1 karadax Mar 2014 #19
The word "black" was unneeded in the OP. Orsino Mar 2014 #22
guys like Allen West, Mychal Massie, etc write bigotry erotica. alp227 Mar 2014 #5
They're republican... EC Mar 2014 #6
Lemme slightly rephrase that question-- Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #7
+ struggle4progress Mar 2014 #16
Generally a good idea to avoid any question that begins "Why are so many black......" Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #8
Good point but The Second Stone Mar 2014 #14
I dunno, because it is raising the point that treestar Mar 2014 #27
As opposed to white conservatives? ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #9
You should just delete this Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #11
why are so many conservative women so damn stupid. i hear ya. or poor anything seabeyond Mar 2014 #12
Why are so many conservatives stupid? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #13
They can't compete with liberal blacks fadedrose Mar 2014 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #18
I don't know. Why are so many white conservatives so damn stupid? KamaAina Mar 2014 #23
We expect white conservatives to be stupid, most of the time. Archae Mar 2014 #26
I expect all conservatives to be stupid, all of the time. KamaAina Mar 2014 #31
You're still off base. TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #34
Because you disagree with them. MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #25
The truth hurts. nt BillZBubb Mar 2014 #29
yep Psephos Mar 2014 #42
They're just as dumb as white conservatives. But they're atypical, so we pay more attention. enki23 Mar 2014 #28
They remind me of the Log Cabin Republicans. B Calm Mar 2014 #32
Bad example YarnAddict Mar 2014 #33
Anyone not part of the 1% or not a religious nutjob who is "conservative" is stupid nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2014 #35
Because of white privilege bigwillq Mar 2014 #38

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
2. Because it always sounds stupid to degrade oneself, and that doesn't apply only to one group...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:36 PM
Mar 2014

It applies to right wing females, and a whole slew of others.

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
36. I was thinking the same thing WRT right wing women.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

I hate thinking that about other women, but damn, how stupid can they get? I've seen right wing females use their rights to say that women shouldn't have rights. And I will never understand the log cabin republicans. Ever.

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
39. The only thing I can think of is...
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:12 AM
Mar 2014

attention. They like being the only one of their kind in a crowd. Like the women who say they can't be friends with other women. Some kind of "queen bee" syndrome, I guess.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
3. Consider this:
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:37 PM
Mar 2014

There's an understanding, that to succeed as a Black person in this country, you need to be twice as good in order to even be considered half as good. That's in anything, on the playing field and even in the board room. A Black man has to go all out to strive to be the best, or else he won't get any respect on his own merits at all.
That's just how the game is played.

But what happens when you're a Black Conservative, trying to make it in the lilly white world of the Republican party? Well, if you're Allen West, Ken Blackwell, Herman Cain, Alan Keyes, Larry Elder, Ben Carson, Ward Connerly, Star Parker, or another damned fool, like this Mychal Massie person, you either become the biggest sell-out to the worst of Republican ideology, freaking insane, or both.

And there's no one crazier than a Black Conservative, my friends. No... One. It's so easy to understand why. They have to convince all those crazy as bat guano White conservatives that he or she is legit in their crazy as bat guano world. That's their audience, not the Black community. Black people are embarrassed by these crazy fools. They show up at the family turn-up function or whatever and make complete asses of themselves while everyone else is trying to have a good time.

But you know what I found out what's funny? Turns out that the problem of untreated mental illness affects roughly 5% of the Black community. But it just so happens that it's pretty much the same percentage of Black folks who call themselves "conservative." I'm very much convinced that this is not a co-inky-dink.

Notice that the guy was proud to point out that he wasn't on any medication. Wink-wink! Obviously, if he were, I guarantee that he wouldn't be this crazy person that we see today. But then again, he couldn't make it as a Black Conservative at all, while harboring any disadvantage of sanity.

So keep that in mind when you see these Black Conservatives… They play by a different set of rules.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
10. This makes sense
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:50 PM
Mar 2014

I've known a black conservative on another non-political message board. He pretty much spends his day trying to one up every right-winger he can on the anti-Obama rhetoric to show he's "one of the good ones" I guess.

By the way, had my first Star Parker encounter....was treated to one of her screeds in an op-ed piece the other day. Awful ranting about kids out of wedlock and pot use and it all being the fault of one man....Bill Clinton.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
17. Really interesting take.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:07 PM
Mar 2014

I will never understand why people would align themselves with a political ideology that -- IMO -- wants to supress them.

This might very well be the most plausible explanation I have seen. Sadly plausible.


Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
21. Interesting. They would by necessity have to ramp up the self-hate.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:32 PM
Mar 2014

Years of doing so have to take a terrible toll on the psyche.

BumRushDaShow

(129,139 posts)
24. Bingo!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:07 PM
Mar 2014


Some more include Ron Christie, although some of the old-school ones like Michael Steele or Armstrong Williams have mellowed a bit and have avoided the lunatic stridency.

Ironically, I'm listening to one right now who calls himself "David"' (now a regular caller) who just called up Sharpton whining.
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. they're no stupider than any other conservatives
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:38 PM
Mar 2014

and WND is all stupid all of the time.

I think calling out black conservatives is creepy.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
22. The word "black" was unneeded in the OP.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:49 PM
Mar 2014

Movement conservatism is a stupid philosophy, and proponents of it sound stupid. Dedicated followers are going to sound stupid more frequently, and the few among them who manage to get paid well for doing so sound the stupidest of all. These distinctions don't make it easy to pick out which ones actually *are* stupid.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
5. guys like Allen West, Mychal Massie, etc write bigotry erotica.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:39 PM
Mar 2014

As ConWebWatch recently explained, Massie's M.O. is to say things a white man would be called racist for. IOW, to validate the bigoted or should i say "politically incorrect" positions of angry white males. the link explains about Massie complaining about the Knockout Game being excluded from Black History Month. that's how much scum he is.

EC

(12,287 posts)
6. They're republican...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:43 PM
Mar 2014

Actually I think they choose the Republican party because the party desperately needs some black representation, so it's an easy way to make a living if you are already stupid, just say you're conservative and you'll be made a hero just for being a minority in the Republican party. They highlight their minorities because there aren't that many, so they make a show of them.

But this article is just plain cruel and little.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
7. Lemme slightly rephrase that question--
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:43 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:24 PM - Edit history (1)

"Why are so many conservatives so stupid?"

Because you have to be either stupid or psychopathic to espouse most of conservative doctrine.

I don't think black conservatives are dumber than any other kind of conservative; it's just that they're hired largely to push the moronic RW Weltanschauung in the realms of race and class. I guess the theory is that if a black person is dissing minorities, that proves it's all true somehow.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. Generally a good idea to avoid any question that begins "Why are so many black......"
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:47 PM
Mar 2014

Especially when more white people than black people make the kind of comments that you cite.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
14. Good point but
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:54 PM
Mar 2014

white conservatives who make those stupid comments are racist against black people. Being a black Republican these days (notice I said Republican and not conservative) is being against one's own self interest. I am reminded of Dave Chapelle's blind from birth KKK member.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. I dunno, because it is raising the point that
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:24 PM
Mar 2014

a black conservative winds up in the same party with whites who are racist against blacks, so there is an extra consideration there. Politics makes strange bedfellows. But that's a very uncomfortable alliance, I would think.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. why are so many conservative women so damn stupid. i hear ya. or poor anything
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:51 PM
Mar 2014

conservative so damn stupid. lol. if they were knowledgeable, they would not be conservatives. and ya. stating the obvious.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,044 posts)
13. Why are so many conservatives stupid?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:53 PM
Mar 2014

Fixed it for you.


Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.

John Stuart Mill

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
15. They can't compete with liberal blacks
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:58 PM
Mar 2014

who are intelligent, articulate, popular, empathetic and just plain fun to be around.

The only safe place to get recognition is from conservatives who would be called racists if they criticized them.

They are starving for attention without competition.

Response to Archae (Original post)

Archae

(46,337 posts)
26. We expect white conservatives to be stupid, most of the time.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:21 PM
Mar 2014

It's blacks (and other ethnic groups) who are acting against their own interests, like is stated above.

Just look at the "Cuban exile" groups.

They are overwhelmingly conservative, yet would make a lot of money giving up their shared fantasy about returning to Cuba once Fidel dies.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
34. You're still off base.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:24 PM
Mar 2014

The vast majority of non-Black Republicans are also voting against their own interest. They've been convinced that they should support laws that benefit the wealthy because...well...some day they just know they're going to make it big and benefit from the skewed laws. But while TPTB like to use race as a wedge, it's really truly about CLASS...making poor people more dependent on their employers, and make rich people safe to exercise questionable ethics without facing any scrutiny.

enki23

(7,789 posts)
28. They're just as dumb as white conservatives. But they're atypical, so we pay more attention.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:25 PM
Mar 2014

It's been said upthread plenty, but I thought I'd see if I could get it into one line.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
32. They remind me of the Log Cabin Republicans.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 05:07 PM
Mar 2014

But, really anybody who works for a paycheck and votes Republican needs to have their head looked at!

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