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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:30 AM Mar 2014

Question about the ACA

My sister has a job and and insurance, but has been wondering whether she could get better insurance and rates by switching to the ACA

Well, we were at the mall on Sunday, and saw a sign saying "Quick, enroll in Obamacare before the deadline". There were a couple of people with pamphlets and laptops. My sister approached a woman who told her the benefits and told her she'd help her apply. Next she tells her to lie on the application and say she was uninsured or she'd be "thrown out of the network" or something like that.

My sister excused herself and left.

We were wondering, is it even legal for her to lie? Can't she simply switch to another insurance plan?

BTW, the woman was going to charge either 80 or 100 Dollars to help fill the application

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Question about the ACA (Original Post) lunamagica Mar 2014 OP
Sketchy woman. Tell her to call the Marketplace at 1-800-318-2596! Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #1
I'll let her know. Thank you nt lunamagica Mar 2014 #6
Off hand, it sounds like a scam, elleng Mar 2014 #2
We thought so. lunamagica Mar 2014 #7
Report them to your state's insurance commissioner and to the mall administrators. It's a scam. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #3
FL. It was at the Sawgrass Mills Mall in Broward County lunamagica Mar 2014 #5
Your sister was right to leave. subterranean Mar 2014 #4
Thank you. We weren't sure it was a scam lunamagica Mar 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author lunamagica Mar 2014 #8
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
1. Sketchy woman. Tell her to call the Marketplace at 1-800-318-2596!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:39 AM
Mar 2014

To answer your question - no, never lie on the application. They will check to see everything checks out. As for your sister, she can still apply for coverage, but if they find that her current coverage through her employer meets the minimum requirements and is considered affordable, she won't be eligible for the tax credit. If, however, it doesn't meet either, she may be eligible for the credit. Moreover, she may find more affordable plans through the Marketplace (even without the tax credit).

elleng

(130,974 posts)
2. Off hand, it sounds like a scam,
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:40 AM
Mar 2014

and generally, no, its not legal to lie on an application for government benefits.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
7. We thought so.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:53 AM
Mar 2014

I thought it was king of odd that the sign said "Obamacare" rather than "The affordable care act", but then I thought that maybe they did it because Obamacare is more well know.

Live and learn

Thanks!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. Report them to your state's insurance commissioner and to the mall administrators. It's a scam.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:44 AM
Mar 2014

It's illegal to charge for helping to sign up for ACA and it's illegal to encourage anyone to lie on an application.

These people were frauds and need to be reported.

If you care you will report them.

Your sister will stick with what her employer provides, it's unlikely that she can do better under ACA because if she uses ACA she has to pay the full amount because she won't get the employer's contribution.

Odd post, odd story. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but it's odd.

What state are you in?

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
4. Your sister was right to leave.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:46 AM
Mar 2014

For various reasons.

One, it is certainly not legal or wise to lie on the application.

Two, it is not necessary to pay to apply for insurance under the ACA. You can do it online, or there are navigators and brokers who will help for free. It sounds like those people your sister spoke to were running a scam. She should have reported it to the authorities.

Third, if your sister gets insurance through her job, she can buy insurance through the exchange but she would not be eligible for subsidies. So it's unlikely that she would find a better deal unless her employer offers really crappy insurance.

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