Turns out the host is also a 9/11 truther who believes fluoridation is brainwashing Americans. She also mentioned something about the Freemasons controlling America.

my interest in journalism was sparked when my dad was invited to debate a Bircher about flouridation... on Phil Donahue's local radio show.

Is the circle complete yet?

.... and she just made a follow-up statement on her previous comments.

She said she's not fired and will continue to call 'em as she see's 'em.

The OP, BTW, never suggested that she was fired.

Nonetheless, thanks for semi-clarification, comrade!

... But by all means, keep catapulting the RW propaganda without checking the facts.

And commenting on RT censorship is "RW propaganda"?

That's fucking hilarious.

I don't take "homework assignments from those who are too lazy to research it themselves.

But let the RW deniers continue to deny. It's what they do.

I was sort of hoping you might provide a "blue linky" to back up your statement, so we could clear this up.

Otherwise how can I ascertain that the "RW deniers are continuing to deny" what was supposedly said by her?

can find and post the segment from last night's Last Word. To get an on the ground view from people who actually know what the hell they're talking about when it comes to Russian media. No one in Russia will ever see that.

Edit to add video clip:

"The Foreign Policy Initiative was founded in 2009 by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, Dan Senor, and Robert Kagan."

"Since its foundation, the Foreign Policy Initiative has advocated for the troop surge in the Afghanistan War and "direct military strikes" in Syria."

You really should check your sources before you put your foot in your mouth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Policy_Initiative

Well, is it?

Remember you said, "No one in Russia will ever see that." Implying it was blocked or something.

I think you know the answer but don't want to post it.

First "disprove my assertion yourself, you lazy ass" I've seen today!

Sadly, I predict it won't be the last.

"The Foreign Policy Initiative was founded in 2009 by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, Dan Senor, and Robert Kagan."

Not RW, eh?

I've never mentioned The Foreign Policy Initiative.

Thanks for the bump!

"And commenting on RT censorship is 'RW propaganda'?

That's fucking hilarious."

Well, it's also fucking hilarious when some here quote RW propaganda sources to comment on RT "censorship". Ironic!

Nothing I've posted, nor anything I've contributed, is "RW propaganda".

Nothing I've cited or said is "RW propaganda".

As you're fond of accusational queries, let's try this one: Are you a Putin apologist?

Right?

I always do.

I honestly don't understand your question.

Do you "Straw Man" much, sir?

Suggests you think there is a left side to this, and given the direction of those accusations, that you view that side as the line pressed by the Russian government of Mr. Putin.

The fact of the matter is that Putin is a fascist of classic style, and the fulminations of Russia Times and associates are themselves right wing propaganda, in service of Great Russian chauvinism and imperialism.

If one is to assail right wing propaganda, and disparage those who peddle it, the charge definitely applies to the Russian government and its various mouthpieces and echoes, whomever else it might be applied to.

..... No shortage of straw man arguments, eh?

An intelligent person would recognize when these tactics aren't working, sir.

And merely chanting 'strawman' carries no weight at all.

In comment on a question like this, to consistently attack one side is to demonstrate support for the other. That people may try and pretend this is not so, or feel, or feign feeling, affronted when it is pointed out, does not alter the case.

In general, no, there is no shortage of straw man arguments. That being said, the poster you are replying to hasn't made one.

(Donohue and Maher) sidelined due to her contract and kept off the air, Banfield, or Amanpour, who was removed from covering Iraq, the RT host is still on the air and has stated she will continue to call them as she sees them.

How were her remarks censored when we all were able to hear and read them? Lol!

As concerns Donahue, he was fired after a period of consistent criticism. It did not happen overnight. We'll have to wait to see what happens with Martin. Jumping to conclusions hours following her commentary is hapless. That's why Greenwald - the master of knee-jerk pseudoanalysis, went for it.

Concerning your question? Asked and answered. LOL, indeed.

has only recently returned, no longer critical of US Foreign policy, Amanpour too has been returned to a more prominent role on CNN after years of being sidelined on what she used to do best.

Donohue was the most highly rated show on MSNBC. He was gone the day after he faciliated a face off between two UN Inspectors, one telling the truth about Iraq's WMDs which got a standing ovation due to the documentation he had brought with him. I remember watching that show, thrilled at last to see some truth on the Corporate media. It was short lived as the show was cancelled the following day airc.

And these were not the only journalists who were silenced and replaced prominently on the air by liars like Judith Miller eg.

Maybe you forgot that the Bush warmongers hired a Corporation, The Rendon Group, to 'sell' the war to the American people, funneling lies through the media, including the NYT. They were not about to waste all that money by allowing anyone, including Joe Wilson, to tell the truth.

Censorship is evil no matter who does it and if Abby Martin is fired as a result of what she said, that too would fall under the evil category.

Too much censorship here which airc, was never in dispute during the Bush era. And nothing has changed much, in fact it has become worse.

makes it there or not is another story...

This might become a new catch phrase..."shes been sent to Crimea"...

sleeps with the fishes...

I guess I will be waiting a long time.

and Truthout, saving me the trouble of doing so. The number of posts, the amount of information you posted, and the vehemence of your argument all served to underline the fact of that financial connection. You did a better job proving it than I ever could.

I appreciate you pointing out the efforts I made you go to.

Good thing I'm not holding my breath or I would die.

And what you are saying now is bullshit: PUBLIC donations are somehow some kind of "EEEEVIL" financial corruption connection. What a joke.

What I don't know is whether you posted the false and misleading info because you couldn't be bothered to figure out the truth, or because you didn't care that it was false.

You have NO credibility.

Had it pointed out. And then proceeded to post it again, have it pointed out again, then post a revised misleading version of it. Disingenuousness hackery, indeed.

I don't see where she was censored. I see where her employers ridiculed her, but that's about all.

Also there is condemnation of Russia's actions in Russia's non-state funded press.

(And no, this is not an endorsement of RT, and no, I don't love Putin, and no, I don't think that Russia is a haven of press freedom.)

If it weren't for the internet being so big the comments wouldn't have been preserved. RT clearly censored their own commentator for opposing the invasion.

Not a fan of RT.

..... when she wasn't.

.... saying she would continue to report as she saw fit.

please.

I wanted a link that RT hasn't censored on their playbacks.

I should have known where you were coming from! That's what I get for trying to be the "nice guy"!

However, I think it is worth noting that they scrubbed the footage from their website, while plenty of footage exists there. There is no way it was left off by accident.

You've exposed yourself.

I know you would never look at the RT site (for fear that they'd suck your brain out).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLI46g-I12_9p7quGXXanTK2zEWLiOZQvZ&v=Knr6VrREZbk

Makes Baghdad Bob look like an honest journalist. Thanks for the link.

I knew nothing would satisfy you.

The question is why are you so hell bent on justifying a right wing, murdering lunatic and his propaganda machine?

Where's the RT-sponsored video?

OUTSIDE Russia.

Your first mistake was expecting intellectual honesty from a disgraced former sheister lawyer like Greenwald.

Or are you saying that most Russians don't watch English language programing?

You luvs you some RWers, eh?

" The Foreign Policy Initiative was founded in 2009 by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, Dan Senor, and Robert Kagan."

Oh, and BTW .... Kirchick is with the Foreign Policy INITIATIVE..... not the reputable Foreign Policy Institute.

"The Foreign Policy Initiative was founded in 2009 by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, Dan Senor, and Robert Kagan."

A RW source....... no wonder you quoted it!

n/t

His central point remains correct.

And no amount of nit-picking clumsiness in his article (there are legitimate criticisms) and cherry-picking his quotes to attempt to misrepresent his points (and baseless name-calling) changes that.

I would go through it item by item, but I have work to do, and, frankly, this screed OP is not really worth my time.

Greenwald made a statement. It was demonstrably false and premature.

You quoted from it.

You didn't read his the whole column? Jeez...

Follow the links. It's easy:

You to:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4602760

That post to:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/04/russia-today-anchor-abby-martin-putin-ukraine-rt_n_4895679.html

That article to:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/03/04/rt-host-abby-martin-condemns-russian-incursion-crimea-rt/

…where you will find Greenwald's full comments put in context.

Mea culpa.

His update rehashes the preferred retort here: "But (pick a name) was fired/demoted!" It still fails to address his presumption that Martin faces a different fate.

The gist of his article is that the U.S. media is hypocritical in their condemnation of the Russian incursion, because they failed to criticize the Iraq invasion. That's been proven false and he even admits such, though with a typical Greenwald deflection rather than an admission that he was incorrect.

Further, his main thrust was that RT is a nobler organization because they allowed a host to buck the party line. Except that, as with the media response here to Bush critics, it's becoming evident that RT likely will retaliate. Perhaps not, but if they do Greenwald's "point" is meaningless.

Moreso, he had ample opportunities to hand out attaboys to a wide spectrum of media hosts who were unabashedly critical of the Iraq invasion at and after the time he began his blogging career. That would have made him look less selective in his choice of heroes and villains. Instead, he himself banged the drums of war in his now infamous contemporaneous writing.

As a "journalist" Greenwald has failed to shed any light on this subject, once again merely bloviating by suggesting that his ill-conceived opinion is newsworthy. You're free to disagree, of course, but the "stench" (his term) originates from his direction.

soundbytes that suck in the fans. He has no interest in the facts. NO wonder so many on here are saying we can't criticize Russia .. because of Iraq. More Bullshit from him. Not in my name we didn't bomb Iraq.

Is he trying to protect Putin because of snowden? Or he just hates America? Or both?

18.54 The anchorwoman of Russia Today is standing by her criticism of Russia's military incursion in Ukraine, saying she would rather risk her job and "go down on the right side of history."

Abby Martin, a Washington-based newswoman for Russia Today, told The Associated Press today that the network has decided not to fire her for harshly condemning Moscow on the air for sending in troops to take control of much of Crimea, a peninsula in the Black Sea.
Check out the video of Martin's criticism and out accompanying story by Josie Ensor here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10677370/Ukraine-Russia-crisis-live.html

An American anchor working for Kremlin-owned television station Russia Today quit on air on Wednesday.

Liz Wahl, in the network's D.C. bureau, said she could no longer be "part of a network that whitewashes the actions of Putin." Wahl said she is the grandchild of Hungarian refugees who fled Soviet oppression.

"As a reporter on this network I face many ethical and moral challenges, especially me personally," said Wahl. "My grandparents came here as refugees during the Hungarian Revolution, ironically, to escape Soviet forces."

RT has drawn criticism from the international press for it's pro-Russian coverage of the ongoing crisis in Crimea. Watch the clip here.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/3/2/live-blog-crisisinukraine.html

They seem to be everywhere these days....

I'm glad her conscience won out over her paycheck. I would say the same thing about Abby Martin. I have a feeling that after she's been a while in Crimea, they will find a reason to let her go.

quit! Resigned.. she's outta there.

I got Abby Martin mixed up with Liz Wahl.

Thanks for the info on Liz Wahl.. she sounds amazing!