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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo money for the unemployed but they're voting to provide Ukraine one billion in aid
with amazing speed
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Funny what you can find down there.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)malaise
(269,053 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)You frequently criticize Congress for things the administration is also responsible for.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)And for that matter the Senate controlled by the Democrats must sign off on it as well. So this is a bipartisan problem.
malaise
(269,053 posts)n/t
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)I think it stems from your lack of understanding of what is politically feasible vs. politically popular. Regardless of the injustice of not keeping food stamps funding where it was due to staunch GOP opposition, it doesn't mean we should fail to do something beneficial to the U.S. and Ukraine in this crisis.
go west young man
(4,856 posts)you make it seem like a popularity contest as to whether or not people deserve food stamps and government assistance. What other trendy activity should we give up our own self benefits for?
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)unless there were cuts to food stamps according to Republicans. Now, those cuts were MUCH LESS steep than originally proposed by Republicans but they were still cuts, and none of us should be happy about it considering our economy is still experiencing anemic jobs growth and many families are still in poverty.
On the other hand, most politicians on both sides of th aisle see the advantage of material acts helping Ukraine as they work to pull Ukraine into the EU sphere rather than as a backwater to Russian empirial designs.
go west young man
(4,856 posts)here in the USA? Maybe some of us can get on a crew dismantling Chernobyls reactors? The companies that will benefit from anything out of Ukraine will be hedge funds who buy up utilities and get rid of workers pensions and benefits as well as big oil and the US MIC. In other words, the top one percent and everything we fight against everyday here at DU. And you cite that our leaders on both sides of the aisle are on board with this endeavor...well you've proven one thing...they both serve the top 1 percent and your happy with it because you think it's...do-able.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)I demand that Hannity take them to task tonight.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)It's a political will and ideology issue
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)however, whether they pay it back is another story.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Which makes it off the balance sheet like trillions of other loan guarantees that the US Taxpayer stands behind.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)it's just every time I read about it, it says "loan".
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/politics/ukraine-us-aid/
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)No were not coughing up readies : we'll back loans by others to remove the additional cost of credit default insurance.
Other than that US foreign aid is rarely "cash" which in this instance is what Ukraine needs - its funds paid to US companies to privatise their water supply whatever.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)When you get to a gazillion, only then may we see the money back. I don't count on it.
The republicants are ruthless people.
JVS
(61,935 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Repubs in particular. But foreign aid is very important. Maybe they can shave off a billion from some other country we donate to.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)poor, do not want to help theirs either.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/03/04/will-budget-cuts-isolationism/
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)issue, it's a political issue. Not to mention, foreign aide can be moved within it's own budget category. There is also emergency aid that is usually in the budget, but that may not be the case with the sequester.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)The NSA is happily back to work with Booz Allen Hamilton. Wall Street is now looking for a way to rob renters blind. All in all pretty much back to normal again. Including our continued blatant disregard for the most vulnerable in society.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)this news fried my cookies too.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)just another big money giveaway for an oil rich country....piss on the unemployed!
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)You're welcome, Ukraine! Maybe I can move in with one of you, when I'm evicted and homeless, shortly?
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)has pledged $15 billion as well. But having said that UI benefits should be extended. It is a crime to hold up aid to needy Americans like that. And of course the House GOP is responsible for this travesty.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)That all this money either goes to making More Weapons, or ...feeding countries of places where we already destroyed by using our weapons...?? What is this THING... we got going on, where saving Americans is never a priority?
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)as per Karel De Gucht (VRT, in dutch).
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Sorry for the crudity, but that actually happened metaphorically. It's amazing. The Republicans can miraculously make money appear if guns, killing and war are involved. If not, then not so much.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)It is absurd.
malaise
(269,053 posts)This neo-con RW madness has to be stopped
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)dickthegrouch
(3,174 posts)$1B/465 = 2.1M each
They can damned well fund it out of their own pockets until they restore unemployment benefits to their own constituents.
dickthegrouch
(3,174 posts)As a struggling over 55 yr old with 8 months unemployment to my name so far (this time), I am FURIOUS and told them so in no uncertain terms.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)frwrfpos
(517 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)When the Republicans want something,
they should be forced to give us something too.
Other Presidents have understood how to play this political game.